Ultra White Collar Boxing
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Call me mad, insane, stupid, but I've gone and signed up with UWCB to take part in a charity boxing match at the start of June.
The concept is to raise awareness and money through donations and sponsorship for Cancer Research UK. People who have never boxed, or even stepped inside a ring are invited to join and take part in 8 weeks worth of 2 to 3, 1 hour sessions per week, for 8 weeks, leading up to a 3x 2 minute round fight with someone of similar skill, ability, build and fitness from the free 8 week training course.
This challenge ticks several boxes for me. I've always wanted to do something for charity, on my own. I lost my uncle many years ago to cancer so i have motivation right there. I also like the idea i'm pushing myself and going into the unknown. Getting out of the comfort zone and seeing what i can actually achieve also intrigues me, and the weight lose as well.
I currently weigh 119kg, so on the heavy side, and that's not in muscle! But i'm running 3 miles every morning at 5am currently, and then heading to the gym in the evenings, with the x-trainer being used and then weights/static machines being used to increase strength and stamina. I've also started skipping before the gym, although not very well. Gloves and pads have been ordered for sparring practice. Boxing training at the boxing gym begins next week.
Last week i lost 7 pounds and have had a big shift in diet and being more careful what i eat/drink.
So i was wondering if any PH'ers might of taken on a similar event in the past? What training might be best for someone my size (overweight)? I would like to think i'll put up a good fight, but I've never thrown a punch in my life, and i'm slightly concerned my stamina might let me down come the last round of the fight (if i make it that far).
UWCB link...................https://www.ultrawhitecollarboxing.co.uk/
Cheers guys,
Slickus
The concept is to raise awareness and money through donations and sponsorship for Cancer Research UK. People who have never boxed, or even stepped inside a ring are invited to join and take part in 8 weeks worth of 2 to 3, 1 hour sessions per week, for 8 weeks, leading up to a 3x 2 minute round fight with someone of similar skill, ability, build and fitness from the free 8 week training course.
This challenge ticks several boxes for me. I've always wanted to do something for charity, on my own. I lost my uncle many years ago to cancer so i have motivation right there. I also like the idea i'm pushing myself and going into the unknown. Getting out of the comfort zone and seeing what i can actually achieve also intrigues me, and the weight lose as well.
I currently weigh 119kg, so on the heavy side, and that's not in muscle! But i'm running 3 miles every morning at 5am currently, and then heading to the gym in the evenings, with the x-trainer being used and then weights/static machines being used to increase strength and stamina. I've also started skipping before the gym, although not very well. Gloves and pads have been ordered for sparring practice. Boxing training at the boxing gym begins next week.
Last week i lost 7 pounds and have had a big shift in diet and being more careful what i eat/drink.
So i was wondering if any PH'ers might of taken on a similar event in the past? What training might be best for someone my size (overweight)? I would like to think i'll put up a good fight, but I've never thrown a punch in my life, and i'm slightly concerned my stamina might let me down come the last round of the fight (if i make it that far).
UWCB link...................https://www.ultrawhitecollarboxing.co.uk/
Cheers guys,
Slickus
Edited by Slickus on Wednesday 5th April 12:18
Ahem.....PH Phat Fighters Q2 thread has just started - get yourself in!
Top marks for going for it and a worthy cause to support. I've never done UWCB, although I know a few people who have and they all did ok (didn't get knocked out at least!). Sounds like you're attacking the training well mixing up cardio and weight work, obviously you're on the heavy side so be careful of injuring your knee's etc. while running but you should be ok.
Having competed a couple of times in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu competitions the best advice I can give you is prepare yourself for the dump of adrenaline you'll get when faced with someone who is actively trying to punch/hurt/put you on your backside. The rounds will go quick but there's a risk of gassing out if you're not careful - its ok though, your opponent will feel the same
Good luck matey.
Top marks for going for it and a worthy cause to support. I've never done UWCB, although I know a few people who have and they all did ok (didn't get knocked out at least!). Sounds like you're attacking the training well mixing up cardio and weight work, obviously you're on the heavy side so be careful of injuring your knee's etc. while running but you should be ok.
Having competed a couple of times in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu competitions the best advice I can give you is prepare yourself for the dump of adrenaline you'll get when faced with someone who is actively trying to punch/hurt/put you on your backside. The rounds will go quick but there's a risk of gassing out if you're not careful - its ok though, your opponent will feel the same
Good luck matey.
Pete102 said:
Ahem.....PH Phat Fighters Q2 thread has just started - get yourself in!
Top marks for going for it and a worthy cause to support. I've never done UWCB, although I know a few people who have and they all did ok (didn't get knocked out at least!). Sounds like you're attacking the training well mixing up cardio and weight work, obviously you're on the heavy side so be careful of injuring your knee's etc. while running but you should be ok.
Having competed a couple of times in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu competitions the best advice I can give you is prepare yourself for the dump of adrenaline you'll get when faced with someone who is actively trying to punch/hurt/put you on your backside. The rounds will go quick but there's a risk of gassing out if you're not careful - its ok though, your opponent will feel the same
Good luck matey.
Funnily enough, on the run this morning (in the rain), my left knee started to ache slightly. Eased off and power walked the rest of the way home (about a mile left) not to cause any more discomfort. Think dodging puddles and dropped kerbs might of played a part in it. Feeling ok now and will head home in a bit to grab the skipping rope, and then head to the gym.Top marks for going for it and a worthy cause to support. I've never done UWCB, although I know a few people who have and they all did ok (didn't get knocked out at least!). Sounds like you're attacking the training well mixing up cardio and weight work, obviously you're on the heavy side so be careful of injuring your knee's etc. while running but you should be ok.
Having competed a couple of times in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu competitions the best advice I can give you is prepare yourself for the dump of adrenaline you'll get when faced with someone who is actively trying to punch/hurt/put you on your backside. The rounds will go quick but there's a risk of gassing out if you're not careful - its ok though, your opponent will feel the same
Good luck matey.
My friend competes in British Superbikes and takes these power gel thingies just before he heads out off the grid on the warm up lap for a race. Is it worth me looking at something like that to take just before the fight, or am i asking for a massive crash in adrenaline like you say, half way through? I'm also thinking, a light lunch of chicken and pasta on the day, get the carbs in, and then water and the odd jelly bean rolling up to the fight as sugar to help. All a learning curve but really enjoying it so far.
Cheers for the response.
I wouldn't bother with the energy gels, you will be pumped up full of adrenaline to not need it. If you want some natural energy try the squeezy honey from a supermarket, always worked for me when I boxed. Try to work on a simple 2-3 punch combos, training should teach you these, just remember punch and move, keep your guard up!
I used to box. Go to a proper boxing gym, at least 3 times a week, fitness is essential but also learn to fight, and take a big punch. getting battered by 18 yearolds hardens you up quickly. not to scare you but I had a fracture/ dislocation of my shoulder in my second proper fight, had 6 months off work and then had to change jobs due to the severity of my injury... 4 years later surgery has given me 65% range of motion back...Given the chance I'd be back in the ring in a heartbeat, but I'm 35 and fat now!
Cheers for the replies guys. Very interesting and useful info.
Induction meeting this Friday at Inner City Boxing in Southampton. Nervous and excited for it. Guessing there'll be a lot of testosterone flying about, and eyeing up of potential opponents. Seems there could be over a hundred signed up, but those numbers i think will dwindle in the coming weeks.
Got home last night and grabbed the skipping rope. Very difficult skill to master, sounds daft but getting the timing right, and building up my calf muscles is much needed for this. Was planning then to head to the gym but the other half had an emergency with her horse (turns out nothing serious), and by the time she got back, it was too late to head to the gym. But i got a good sweat on with what i did with the skipping rope, and plan on heading to the gym tonight, after more tripping over the skipping rope!
Almost £100 raised so far, and I've not even thrown a punch yet. I like this, makes me committed from the start and no way can i talk myself out of the next 8 weeks.
Induction meeting this Friday at Inner City Boxing in Southampton. Nervous and excited for it. Guessing there'll be a lot of testosterone flying about, and eyeing up of potential opponents. Seems there could be over a hundred signed up, but those numbers i think will dwindle in the coming weeks.
Got home last night and grabbed the skipping rope. Very difficult skill to master, sounds daft but getting the timing right, and building up my calf muscles is much needed for this. Was planning then to head to the gym but the other half had an emergency with her horse (turns out nothing serious), and by the time she got back, it was too late to head to the gym. But i got a good sweat on with what i did with the skipping rope, and plan on heading to the gym tonight, after more tripping over the skipping rope!
Almost £100 raised so far, and I've not even thrown a punch yet. I like this, makes me committed from the start and no way can i talk myself out of the next 8 weeks.
I did one of these very recently and enjoyed it.
8 weeks training, 4 nights a week plus i trained on my own a couple of extra nights a week.
The fight isn't that bad, 3 x 2 minute rounds at the most so it's over in no time.
If i was to highlight any negatives it would be the amount of knuckle dragging characters such an event attracts. There was a lot of unnecessary injuries in training due to some people taking things too far.
Apart from that it was a well organised event and everyone doing it and watching it seemed to enjoy it.
Good luck!
8 weeks training, 4 nights a week plus i trained on my own a couple of extra nights a week.
The fight isn't that bad, 3 x 2 minute rounds at the most so it's over in no time.
If i was to highlight any negatives it would be the amount of knuckle dragging characters such an event attracts. There was a lot of unnecessary injuries in training due to some people taking things too far.
Apart from that it was a well organised event and everyone doing it and watching it seemed to enjoy it.
Good luck!
R8Steve said:
I did one of these very recently and enjoyed it.
8 weeks training, 4 nights a week plus i trained on my own a couple of extra nights a week.
The fight isn't that bad, 3 x 2 minute rounds at the most so it's over in no time.
If i was to highlight any negatives it would be the amount of knuckle dragging characters such an event attracts. There was a lot of unnecessary injuries in training due to some people taking things too far.
Apart from that it was a well organised event and everyone doing it and watching it seemed to enjoy it.
Good luck!
I'm expecting the fight to flash before my eyes. Slight concern i won't be able to enjoy the final few moments of it after the bell has rung at the end of the 3rd round, could be blowing out of my 'exhaust pipe'! But the training and push i'm putting in now, will hopefully help me through all 3 rounds, and the rest of the evening without too much fatigue. 8 weeks training, 4 nights a week plus i trained on my own a couple of extra nights a week.
The fight isn't that bad, 3 x 2 minute rounds at the most so it's over in no time.
If i was to highlight any negatives it would be the amount of knuckle dragging characters such an event attracts. There was a lot of unnecessary injuries in training due to some people taking things too far.
Apart from that it was a well organised event and everyone doing it and watching it seemed to enjoy it.
Good luck!
I expect the odd dipstick to turn up thinking he rules the world, and taking it too seriously and away from the really reason we are all taking part. But i'll give as good as i get in sparring if it comes to it, and the match for sure. Who know's, those dipsticks could be KO'd within the first 10 seconds of their fight. Videos on YouTube seem to show a few brash walk-in's, and the fight last less then the first round with the excitement turn into exhaustion due to over egging it.
Cheers
RobM77 said:
I just wanted to interrupt briefly to say how much I respect the OP for running 3 miles whilst weighing 119kg. That's astonishing! 
Huge respect.
It's hard work. The first 1.5 miles is down hill, and i won't lie, the returning 1.5 miles is split up into jogging and a fast walk. But i'm getting further each day when running, pushing myself to the next lamppost, or the next house etc. Huge respect.It's refreshing at 5am to be out though, streets empty, sun just raising, and the sound of the birds creates a calm that allows me to focus more.
I've always played football, and tried to be active with gym etc over the year. Just seems i haven't really pushed myself until now. I'd like to get down to 102kg (16 stone), by the time the fight has come around, although i think that much weight lose in the next 8 weeks is pushing it.
Cheers for you kind comments.
Also guys, since Monday, I've started drinking a protein shake after each run/gym session. At my size, am i wasting time with this? I'm not expecting to wake up tomorrow looking like the Hulk, but i thought it might be worth a try. My current diet is ok, but not eating steak for breakfast at 4am like the Rock!!
Pic attached is how i look as of Saturday just gone. (Be gentle PH!)
Pic attached is how i look as of Saturday just gone. (Be gentle PH!)
I can't see what you have to gain from a protein shake, or any supplement really. Just eat normally and drink more water than you're probably used to. There's no product you can buy that will speed up the process or replace training hard and eating sensibly.
Also, running is fine for general fitness but don't expect a few jogs to turn you into a fast handed fighter. I'd look to do some HIIT or circuits classes.
One of my pals (female) did the UWCB thing and had her fight on Saturday night. The other fighter was crying before they went in to the ring and right from the bell kept turning her back. The ref allowed it 3 or 4 times then called it a day. Hardly worth the 8 weeks of training!
Also, running is fine for general fitness but don't expect a few jogs to turn you into a fast handed fighter. I'd look to do some HIIT or circuits classes.
One of my pals (female) did the UWCB thing and had her fight on Saturday night. The other fighter was crying before they went in to the ring and right from the bell kept turning her back. The ref allowed it 3 or 4 times then called it a day. Hardly worth the 8 weeks of training!
sc0tt said:
Have you been made aware how much you need to raise.
I wasn't and such couldn't continue training due to the lack of funds.
How much did you have to raise?I wasn't and such couldn't continue training due to the lack of funds.
We just had to raise a minimum of £50 in justgiving and sell some tickets to the fight and as far as i'm aware that is standard for UWCB.
R8Steve said:
sc0tt said:
Have you been made aware how much you need to raise.
I wasn't and such couldn't continue training due to the lack of funds.
How much did you have to raise?I wasn't and such couldn't continue training due to the lack of funds.
We just had to raise a minimum of £50 in justgiving and sell some tickets to the fight and as far as i'm aware that is standard for UWCB.
Also i read somewhere that UWCB ask for all fighters to, if possible 'sell' 20+ tickets to friends and family for the night.
Guess this will all be confirmed on Friday.
Slickus said:
Also guys, since Monday, I've started drinking a protein shake after each run/gym session. At my size, am i wasting time with this? I'm not expecting to wake up tomorrow looking like the Hulk, but i thought it might be worth a try. My current diet is ok, but not eating steak for breakfast at 4am like the Rock!!
Pic attached is how i look as of Saturday just gone. (Be gentle PH!)
The best thing to do is to put aside ten minutes to working out your average daily protein intake, and then comparing it with recommendations for your exercise level. Most people get enough through their diets, and people on a typical English diet (higher meat percentage on the plate) normally exceed the amount they need. You only need to supplement it if you're not getting enough. The next stage beyond this is to look at the vitamins and minerals you need to process the protein and the types of protein you're actually eating. At first though, just do a basic calculation.Pic attached is how i look as of Saturday just gone. (Be gentle PH!)
HTH
Slickus said:
Correct, from what i've seen online, minimum to raise is £50 (already got £90 raised on my Just Giving page) For CRUK.
Also i read somewhere that UWCB ask for all fighters to, if possible 'sell' 20+ tickets to friends and family for the night.
Guess this will all be confirmed on Friday.
If it isn't possible you don't fight and your training is finished. You have to sell them pretty quickly too. Realistically you get 3 weeks to sell £400 worth of tickets.Also i read somewhere that UWCB ask for all fighters to, if possible 'sell' 20+ tickets to friends and family for the night.
Guess this will all be confirmed on Friday.
Make no bones, it isn't "if possible". If you don't you are out.
sc0tt said:
Slickus said:
Correct, from what i've seen online, minimum to raise is £50 (already got £90 raised on my Just Giving page) For CRUK.
Also i read somewhere that UWCB ask for all fighters to, if possible 'sell' 20+ tickets to friends and family for the night.
Guess this will all be confirmed on Friday.
If it isn't possible you don't fight and your training is finished. You have to sell them pretty quickly too. Realistically you get 3 weeks to sell £400 worth of tickets.Also i read somewhere that UWCB ask for all fighters to, if possible 'sell' 20+ tickets to friends and family for the night.
Guess this will all be confirmed on Friday.
Make no bones, it isn't "if possible". If you don't you are out.
Some people gave a £100 deposit then gave the rest when they had sold the tickets. There was nowhere near enough tickets for everyone that wanted them in our group so selling them would be no problem...even if you don't have 10 friends!
It's hardly a lot to expect for a charitable event that they are giving you 8 weeks training plus putting the event on IMO.
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