Kidney Stones

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dr_gn

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16,145 posts

184 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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Started peeing brown urine Monday afternoon. Went to GP walk in centre who diagnosed a uti. By 23:30 I was on my hands and knees in a&e with the worst stomach pain I've ever experienced. After x-rays, blood and urine tests, they diagnosed a 4mm kidney stone. To my amazement they discharged me with pain killers. The pain was controlled to a degree, but still extremely uncomfortable. After speaking to my GP today, I'm on stronger pain killers and anti nausea tablets. I might have to wait a week to get an appointment with a consultant at the stone clinic at hospital.

Any tips on how to get comfortable, and what the chances of passing a 4mm stone are? Gp seemed to be unconcerned with the whole thing, but it's been a week of agony so far!


FiF

44,041 posts

251 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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Sympathies, I've passed three stones since my first in 1977. None of them was as big as that and the first felt like I was dying. Told it would feel like I was pissing broken glass too, but not the case.

Problem I found is that, unlike a lot of pain, you just cannot find a position that alleviates it. It depends where the stone is but I found vigorous massage in the kidney region could shift it enough to relieve a bit of pressure. Also breathing methods that women are told to adopt in childbirth, but that's really temporary.

Sorry not good news, I know. Assume they've given you stuff to relax muscles and also expand the ureter to help pass the stone.


dr_gn

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16,145 posts

184 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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Thanks, yes I'm on all the drugs. The a&e doctor said he knew what it was as soon as he saw that I couldn't stand, sit or lay down for more than 5 seconds at a time.

Magic919

14,126 posts

201 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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It's normal to pass them at that size. There have been threads about them on here, but some of them you won't want to read now. Unless it gets stuck, they will just send you home with drugs.

dr_gn

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Thursday 20th April 2017
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I'll look forward to it getting stuck then laugh

jonwm

2,511 posts

114 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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I had this at 4 in the morning. As I was waiting for the ambulance I told the wife where all the documentation was for insurance as I genuinely thought I was on my way to meet my maker ...

Bit of morphine in the ambo and I was good as new smile

Magic919

14,126 posts

201 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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I hope it goes well and soon. If you are near Berkshire, I can recommend a good Urologist.

dr_gn

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16,145 posts

184 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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Thanks guys, yes, I thought my number was up too. Right now I should be enjoying my wedding anniversary night out - a piano concert in Hamburg with my wife. Instead I'm in bed in Sheffield with a hot water bottle on my stomach wondering what's going to happen next. Always at the back of my mind that it might be something worse with these things...

There was no way I was getting on an aircraft immediately after 6 hours in a&e.

tedmus

1,885 posts

135 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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I've passed 2 over the years. First one was the worst pain I've ever felt. Started a few days before with constant need to piss and it being browny coloured, got worse over time with me passing blood before I eventually had to go into A&E with the pain. The morphine was bliss that night. Spent 2 nights in hospital (during which some old bloke nicked my trainers), consultant was considering going up there to get it out but ended up being sent home where I passed it (them really as a bit broke off in the way out) at home. Main one was about 5mm and shaped a bit like an ancient arrowhead. Weird sensation as it transits into the old chap.

Second one a few years later was from the other side, not as big thankfully. Went to A&E on a Sunday but went home after getting fed up waiting several hours.

Interestingly was told after the scan I had for my first one I had two tubes (ureter?) going into the kidney on my left side.

dr_gn

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Thursday 20th April 2017
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tedmus said:
I've passed 2 over the years. First one was the worst pain I've ever felt. Started a few days before with constant need to piss and it being browny coloured, got worse over time with me passing blood before I eventually had to go into A&E with the pain. The morphine was bliss that night. Spent 2 nights in hospital (during which some old bloke nicked my trainers), consultant was considering going up there to get it out but ended up being sent home where I passed it (them really as a bit broke off in the way out) at home. Main one was about 5mm and shaped a bit like an ancient arrowhead. Weird sensation as it transits into the old chap.

Second one a few years later was from the other side, not as big thankfully. Went to A&E on a Sunday but went home after getting fed up waiting several hours.

Interestingly was told after the scan I had for my first one I had two tubes (ureter?) going into the kidney on my left side.
Getting older is so much fun.

tedmus

1,885 posts

135 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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dr_gn said:
Getting older is so much fun.
I was in my thirties for both!

FiF

44,041 posts

251 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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tedmus said:
dr_gn said:
Getting older is so much fun.
I was in my thirties for both!
I was twenty six for my first one, had just finished the RAC rally a few weeks earlier, keeping it relevant to PH.

dr_gn

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184 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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How long did the stones take to pass through form first pain? I'm on day 3 now...

alfie2244

11,292 posts

188 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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Worst pain I have ever felt...........same as women having a baby I was told yikes

tedmus

1,885 posts

135 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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From initial sign of discomfort to passing my first was about a week. Second one was done in a few days IIRC.

dr_gn

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184 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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Hmm a week? To be honest I've lost a bit of confidence to go out after all that. Supposed to be meeting the wife and kids from the airport tomorrow.

I'm sure most people reading this will think Im exaggerating, but jeez it was a shock.

FiF

44,041 posts

251 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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First one was about 5 days, second 48 hours, third less than 24 hours. However the third one I had different drugs from the ones that the NHS gave me, that time it was Swedish A and E who sorted it very quickly after some time wasted due to a wierdo GP who has a rep for diagnosing everything as prostatitis. punch

Once you've had the pain you don't forget it, plus when other doctors later ask you to scale pain from something else in a scale from 1 to 10 it sort of affects your answers. hehe

CoolHands

18,604 posts

195 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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For us healthy people reading this, how can we avoid ever getting them?

GG89

3,527 posts

186 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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Stay very well hydrated.

tedmus

1,885 posts

135 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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With the first one it was around day 3 that I went into hospital and was on the morphine that night. The rest of the time I was in I could have been at home really and managed the pain myself as was only on regular pain killers but was sat around waiting for the consultant to either discharge me or decide to go up and get it out.

Kept that one as a souvenir in a little plastic zip bag for a while. The team I was in at work used to have a notice board that various "prizes" used to get pinned onto and it ended up on there. Various things we managed to snaffle on nights out, a feather from an unfortunate pheasant that I hit one day on the way into work, even had a bag of one blokes beard on there. We were an odd bunch.