Kidney Stones

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dr_gn

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16,162 posts

184 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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GG89 said:
Stay very well hydrated.
apparently there are different types of stone, so I'm not sure whether hydration applies to reducing the chances of getting all of them or whether it could also be a blood or diet thing?

FiF

44,069 posts

251 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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Mine were all after really long road journeys where I either neglected or didn't have the opportunity to keep properly hydrated.

Kidney stones? Drink lots of beer, you know it makes sense. hehe

BobSaunders

3,033 posts

155 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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Nothing to add, but i remember my father passing kidney stones about 25+ years ago when i was little'un/young'un. He had them broken up?

Remember the GP turning up (in the days when they used to be able to care) and stay with my father all night medicating him appropriately.

I still remember the screams even now. F**king horrendous memory - one which i love to bring up at Christmas around the table in-front of my father and wider family after he has berated me for my various childhood screw ups and nuances.

I'll probably get them at some point.

I feel for you OP - best of luck through this.

Autopilot

1,298 posts

184 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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I'm, the chap that provided the detailed post of the time I had to remove a 6mm kidney stone lodged in the eye of Japan with a pair of tweezers. You may want to avoid searching for that post! smile

I only knew my first stone was there because I woke up on a Saturday morning barely being able to pee. Went to the Docs first thing Monday and was given some kind of prostate drugs and told to go back in a month. The stone made an appearance exactly 4 Saturdays later and 2 days before the next appointment where I presented them with the 'prostate problem' in a small pot.

The next one was a different creature all together. I didn't know I had that one until one morning I woke with back pain that got worse and worse until I got to the point of just being curled in a ball on the floor and unable to move. It made an appearance again about a month later. Apart from the initial pain on the one day, I experienced no symptoms at all.

All in all a VERY unpleasant experience!!

dr_gn

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16,162 posts

184 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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I'm currently left with a dull ache in my lower left abdomen, which spreads to somewhere behind my balls (like something is trying to pull them by the tubes) when I try to get some sleep.

Thoroughly recommended.


FiF

44,069 posts

251 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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On that basis I'd guess that the stone has moved down the ureter and is about to pop into the bladder itself fairly soon, probably with a little extra sharp session of excruciating pain. That has always been the most painful bit for me, but the relief as the pain subsides and your kidney starts freely pumping urine again is tremendous. After that, assuming you want to find it, might be an idea to piss into a bottle until the broken glass bit and ping out it comes. HTH.

dr_gn

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16,162 posts

184 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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Thanks - something to look forward to at last.

tedmus

1,885 posts

135 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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Or don't tell the missus and piss through a sieve......

dr_gn

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16,162 posts

184 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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You know when you get the feeling that despite expert analysis, something just ain't going to happen....

tedmus

1,885 posts

135 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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I think you're teasing us now, expecting pics of your first born....

Piss take aside hope you're ok smile

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 22nd April 2017
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Have had kidney stones twice over the years. First aged 24 and then again 31.

I can only sympathise with you as it so is painful. A lady who was in the hospital the same time as me had kidney stones and did say it was worse than child birth. Obviously I have to take her word for that.

Basically I was like you told to go home with strong painkillers and to wait. A few tips which help me no end.

1. Drinking water or water and diluted juice none stop throughout the day. I mean a jug of water/juice and once it is done fill it up again and continue.

Drinking as much as you can helps move the stone downwards which will speed up the process.

2. Take a hot bath. This helps you relax which again helps the movement. The heat also helps the pain.

3. Muscle heat pads or a hot water bottle can also help. If too you are drinking enough water you will get cold. You will be sick of drinking but it does make a huge difference.

4. As someone has mentioned buy a sieve and pee through it. This will help if any small stones appear which could be missed. Even these are a nightmare to pass and you will know about it. Fishing around a toilet bowl is not fun if you hear the ping of the stone hitting the toilet.

5. Finally once you do pass the stones check online about things to avoid to prevent them coming back. My doctor never mentioned that eating certain things will make the chances of them returning higher. This I found out after my second batch and have not had them again. Fingers crossed.

6. Limit your dairy intake

Drink more water each day.

Other food are supposed to be limited are

beetroot
asparagus
rhubarb
chocolate
berries
leeks
parsley
celery
almonds, peanuts and cashew nuts
soy products
grains, such as oatmeal, wheat germ and wholewheat

Hope the above helps. Also I hope you get some relief soon. Hold onto the walls and happy passing. smile


Magic919

14,126 posts

201 months

Saturday 22nd April 2017
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They can analyse the stone composition and give advice on that specific type of stone.

dudleybloke

19,819 posts

186 months

Saturday 29th April 2017
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How you feeling? Has it worked its way through yet?

dr_gn

Original Poster:

16,162 posts

184 months

Sunday 30th April 2017
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dudleybloke said:
How you feeling? Has it worked its way through yet?
No, no sign of it. I've got a hospital stone clinic appointment on Wednesday.

I have a dull ache in my lower left groin- actually a slightly worse feeling than an unresolved issue I've had there for the past 4 years or so (investigated hip problem, ultrasound, X-ray, Physio, but no real answers).

The searing pain has obviously gone, but there's something not right in the left kidney area. Currently I'm left feeling nauseous (but hungry), fatigued (but not able to sleep), and just generally very odd. Truth is, it's one of those where I can't imagine ever feeling ok again...

But thanks for asking laugh



richie99

1,116 posts

186 months

Friday 5th May 2017
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Just found this thread and have every sympathy. I had never experienced such pain and ended up with a weekend in hospital on morphine. They gave a a drug to take for a couple of weeks, I think it was tamsulosin or something like that which relaxes your tubes making it easier to pass. This was a couple of years ago and I have to try to remember to drink loads. When I don't I start to get twinges again but that might be my imagination.

If I'd hit everyone who told me it was worse than childbirth I'd have had a sore hand. Worked out for the best though as I was convinced it was appendicitis. One surgeon I saw said she could tell right away what it was. Something about the amount that you fidget. With appendicitis there is a position which feels better so you tend to settle once you have found it. With kidney stones there is not one so you permanently fidget to try to find one, but you can't.

I felt very bad for my little girl who was with me and had to witness me curled up in tears on the floor of the A&E reception in front of the desk.. Gets you seen quick though.

tjl

385 posts

172 months

Saturday 6th May 2017
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I think I was lucky. From being perfectly normal to the most extreme pain imaginable to being perfectly normal in around 5 hours. A and E were great. Got seen quickly. Morphine up the jacksie was incredibly fast working.

dr_gn

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16,162 posts

184 months

Saturday 6th May 2017
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Went to the Stone Clinic at the hospital on Wendesday.

Told the consultant I've still got some discomfort, along with nausea. He had a poke around and then sent me for a CT scan, and am now waiting for the results - which is almost worse than the pain. I'm convinced it's something bad...

Chris Type R

8,026 posts

249 months

Tuesday 30th May 2017
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Space for another member in this exclusive PH club ? Went to the doctors last Thu, and apparently there's blood in my urine and despite a week of antibiotics I'm still in quite some discomfort. I think I have many of the symptoms - next appointment booked for this coming Thu.

R8Steve

4,150 posts

175 months

Tuesday 30th May 2017
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Chris Type R said:
Space for another member in this exclusive PH club ? Went to the doctors last Thu, and apparently there's blood in my urine and despite a week of antibiotics I'm still in quite some discomfort. I think I have many of the symptoms - next appointment booked for this coming Thu.
If you have proper kidney stones you wouldn't be posting on here. wink

When i had them the pain was that great at one point i was strongly considering ramming a wall with my head to knock myself out, it really was that unbearable.

Not something i would like to repeat.

dr_gn

Original Poster:

16,162 posts

184 months

Tuesday 30th May 2017
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Update - had the CT scan, which showed another stone on the other side. The consultant said it wouldn't be wise to travel, becasue if they moved, it would be an emergency admission to the nearest hospital. So, I've had to cancel my summer holiday (which was this week).

Got an appointment on 9th June for laser treatment to break them both up. Not looking forward to it, since it's supposed to be a GA. I've requested a spinal instead, but am now wondering whether it's the best idea. Will talk to the consulatant on the day I think.

Will be 8 weeks since first being in A&E. Two months feeling crap may be trivial compared with what many people have to put up with, but god I'm fed up with it now! No pain, but constant nausea and weakness.