Trouble staying asleep often waking in early hours
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I had a similar problem. I used to take nytol for a few nights which would sort of reset my sleep patterns but I found I was taking it for more and more nights.
The thing that worked for me in the end was to cut out all caffeine and start taking zinc and magnesium supplements (ZMA). I don't know whether the ZMA is having an actual biochemical effect or it's just placebo effect, but I'm certainly sleeping much better now.
The thing that worked for me in the end was to cut out all caffeine and start taking zinc and magnesium supplements (ZMA). I don't know whether the ZMA is having an actual biochemical effect or it's just placebo effect, but I'm certainly sleeping much better now.
RTB said:
I had a similar problem. I used to take nytol for a few nights which would sort of reset my sleep patterns but I found I was taking it for more and more nights.
The thing that worked for me in the end was to cut out all caffeine and start taking zinc and magnesium supplements (ZMA). I don't know whether the ZMA is having an actual biochemical effect or it's just placebo effect, but I'm certainly sleeping much better now.
I also take magnesium before bed does seem to make me sleep better but I feel a bit groggy for a few hours after I wake up.The thing that worked for me in the end was to cut out all caffeine and start taking zinc and magnesium supplements (ZMA). I don't know whether the ZMA is having an actual biochemical effect or it's just placebo effect, but I'm certainly sleeping much better now.
I had something similar recently, for around 10 years I've been used to shift work, but I always slept through. A few months ago I started seeing someone and I found myself waking in the middle of the night, I put it down to my mind stressing about the relationship as when it ended, I started sleeping like a baby again
Thurbs said:
Ah yes, that's what I was referring to above.Magnesium helps for me, I tried ZMA, that was too strong , I now just take two of these before bed with a little but of food:
https://www.vitabiotics.com/shop/osteocare/origina...
I find when I run out of them I often wake about 3am and cant dose off, with them I still wake up but dose straight off, could be placebo but if it works it works
https://www.vitabiotics.com/shop/osteocare/origina...
I find when I run out of them I often wake about 3am and cant dose off, with them I still wake up but dose straight off, could be placebo but if it works it works
Thurbs said:
Perfectly normal apparently. I used to wonder about the monks being hauled from their slumbers at stupid O' clock for a service but it was probable that they were naturally awake anyway.I'm not quite sure how this return to our old style sleep pattern is going to fit in with modern life though!
Our forebears were not bound to get up for work and probably had more time to themselves during the day maybe?
I'm "fortunate" to be unemployed at the moment, however when I did have a full time job, I would struggle to get through a normal day, having to deal with epic slumps due to being so tired.
Our forebears were not bound to get up for work and probably had more time to themselves during the day maybe?
I'm "fortunate" to be unemployed at the moment, however when I did have a full time job, I would struggle to get through a normal day, having to deal with epic slumps due to being so tired.
TonyRPH said:
I'm "fortunate" to be unemployed at the moment, however when I did have a full time job, I would struggle to get through a normal day, having to deal with epic slumps due to being so tired.
My 'epic slumps' last all day thanks to medication for my dicky ticker. Three of my pills have the same side effect: 'may cause tiredness'.This sounds familiar. I also have no problem going to sleep but wake in the night, then find it hard to get back to sleep as I over think things.
I have no affiliation with the company but get one of these and like someone else said listen to voice only podcasts or an audio book. Just nothing too exciting!
http://www.soundasleeppillow.co.uk
It's so much more comfortable than headphones and my wife can't hear it at all.
I soon go back to sleep as I concentrate on whatever is playing and stop over thinking.
Try it!
I have no affiliation with the company but get one of these and like someone else said listen to voice only podcasts or an audio book. Just nothing too exciting!
http://www.soundasleeppillow.co.uk
It's so much more comfortable than headphones and my wife can't hear it at all.
I soon go back to sleep as I concentrate on whatever is playing and stop over thinking.
Try it!
Edited by rich350z on Thursday 20th July 07:30
There was an episode of Doctor in the House on BBC recently with a chap who had a trouble sleeping and chronic fatigue in the day as a result. After struggling to get to the bottom of it, and ruling out sleep apnoea, stress, anxiety etc it was only a blood test that revealed the guy had elevated homocysteine levels, which they put down to a genetic defect. The treatment was high dose of a vitamin B complex, and all the symptoms subsided.
Here's the episode, but I think it expires on iplayer tonight
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b08rzs35/ad/d...
Here's the episode, but I think it expires on iplayer tonight
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b08rzs35/ad/d...
During the week I get up at 5:15am, I wake up for a pee usually about 4:00 (This can vary wildly, SOME nights 12:00 then again at 3:00 then 4:00). Not exact times, just an example.
When I have the early pee during the week I can nod off again but usually lie awake waiting for the alarm to go off but then just want another five minutes.
Now then, the weekend, why can't I have a lie in like a normal person, I try to go back to sleep after the 4:00 pee but just end up tossing and turning and end up getting up about half four ish.
Alcohol consumption is zero. Coffee probably three cups a day. Age early 50's, big boned
When I have the early pee during the week I can nod off again but usually lie awake waiting for the alarm to go off but then just want another five minutes.
Now then, the weekend, why can't I have a lie in like a normal person, I try to go back to sleep after the 4:00 pee but just end up tossing and turning and end up getting up about half four ish.
Alcohol consumption is zero. Coffee probably three cups a day. Age early 50's, big boned
rich350z said:
This sounds familiar. I also have no problem going to sleep but wake in the night, then find it hard to get back to sleep as I over think things.
I have no affiliation with the company but get one of these and like someone else said listen to voice only podcasts or an audio book. Just nothing too exciting!
http://www.soundasleeppillow.co.uk
It's so much more comfortable than headphones and my wife can't hear it at all.
I soon go back to sleep as I concentrate on whatever is playing and stop over thinking.
Try it!
Thanks for posting this! I bought one after reading the thread and it's brilliant!I have no affiliation with the company but get one of these and like someone else said listen to voice only podcasts or an audio book. Just nothing too exciting!
http://www.soundasleeppillow.co.uk
It's so much more comfortable than headphones and my wife can't hear it at all.
I soon go back to sleep as I concentrate on whatever is playing and stop over thinking.
Try it!
I've found that so long as you don't get too riled by the overwhelming sense of smug self importance of Melvyn Bragg and his guests trying to appear more intelligent than each other, the ideal soporific to go with it is the Radio 4 "In Our Time" podcast.
Rather conveniently, you can get about 19 years' worth of podcasts to download!!
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