Keto diet - anyone else?
Discussion
Lemming Train said:
feef said:
OFORBES said:
I have been doing it for a week. Weighed myself last night and no change.... Hmmmm
one week is too soon to notice any differenceI guess after reading other peoples experiences, I was expecting to see more of a difference. I certainly feel different, my energy levels are a lot more consistent.
OFORBES said:
Probably more the latter. Should I only be drinking when I am thirsty then?
It's probably because you're forcing it down that you're feeling constantly bloated. I think the 'instructions' for keto diets are a bit misleading myself. They nearly all rattle on about water consumption and tell you that you must drink 5000 gallons of water per day but it's a complete nonsense imo. Sure, it's more important on a keto diet to make sure you stay hydrated but everyone's body is different. Our bodies are very good at working out these things for themselves and they will tell you when they want more water. Tanking yourself up with water when your body doesn't want it will certainly result in you feeling bloated and uncomfortable.When your body is in keto state you should be feeling really good with no headaches, constipation, poor sleeping etc. You should also feel no cravings for any sugar/carby 'bad stuff' and feel that you could easily get through the entire day without eating anything as you shouldn't be getting hunger pangs once you're fully in keto state.
Edited by Lemming Train on Thursday 14th February 21:45
Listen to your body. Lemming Train said:
OFORBES said:
Probably more the latter. Should I only be drinking when I am thirsty then?
It's probably because you're forcing it down that you're feeling constantly bloated. I think the 'instructions' for keto diets are a bit misleading myself. They nearly all rattle on about water consumption and tell you that you must drink 5000 gallons of water per day but it's a complete nonsense imo. Sure, it's more important on a keto diet to make sure you stay hydrated but everyone's body is different. Our bodies are very good at working out these things for themselves and they will tell you when they want more water. Tanking yourself up with water when your body doesn't want it will certainly result in you feeling bloated and comfortable.When your body is in keto state you should be feeling really good with no headaches, constipation, poor sleeping etc. You should also feel no cravings for any sugar/carby 'bad stuff' and feel that you could easily get through the entire day without eating anything as you shouldn't be getting hunger pangs once you're fully in keto state.
Increasing salt can assist with water retention on a keto diet and supplementing with magnesium can lessen the likelihood of constipation.
OFORBES said:
Not shovelling in the carbs. But did have to go to a works event earlier in the week and had a few glasses of red wine which probably didn't help.
That is not going to work! :facepalm:In the initial weeks especially, you must stick to a strict no carbs regime in order for your body to change into keto state. Playing at it like you're doing will achieve nothing and you'll end up putting on weight instead. Once you're fully in keto state and your body has got used to it you can occasionally get away with having a 'bad' day due to a party for example, and then be able to quickly jump back on the rails without coming out of keto, but you'll usually pay for it with an increase in your weight.
You should view keto as a lifestyle change in what you eat rather than a temporary diet just to shed a few kilos. If you only plan to do it for 3 or 6 months and then go back to a carb diet, the weight you've worked hard to lose in those 6 months will go straight back on you within a week if you go back to eating all the usual crap filled with carbs.
So said:
I'd say that constipation is a greater risk with keto, by dint of the food groups excluded. Unless you're quite careful to mitigate it.
Increasing salt can assist with water retention on a keto diet and supplementing with magnesium can lessen the likelihood of constipation.
Constipation happens because they only have meat and protein in their heads and forget that you still need your greens (fibre) as well. So long as you don't neglect your veggies (savoy cabbage, broccoli and cauliflower for me) you shouldn't be getting constipation issues.Increasing salt can assist with water retention on a keto diet and supplementing with magnesium can lessen the likelihood of constipation.
Lemming Train said:
So said:
I'd say that constipation is a greater risk with keto, by dint of the food groups excluded. Unless you're quite careful to mitigate it.
Increasing salt can assist with water retention on a keto diet and supplementing with magnesium can lessen the likelihood of constipation.
Constipation happens because they only have meat and protein in their heads and forget that you still need your greens (fibre) as well. So long as you don't neglect your veggies (savoy cabbage, broccoli and cauliflower for me) you shouldn't be getting constipation issues.Increasing salt can assist with water retention on a keto diet and supplementing with magnesium can lessen the likelihood of constipation.
Thanks for all your responses.
Lemming Train I totally agree with you, the Keto 'instructions' are pretty misleading. I have read so much information on Keto this last week and I have read many conflicting things it's hard to know what is right and what wont get results.
Yes I am looking at this diet for weight loss initially, but it will be a permanent lifestyle change, not something that I will do for a few months lose some weight and and then go back to eating carb loaded crap. I am particularly keen on the other health benefits that are associated with it too like the better sleep, energy levels etc.
Its just pretty confusing...
I read no carbs AT all in the initial stages, then I read that you HAVE to have them during all stages, then I read moderate protein, then that protein intake makes no difference and wont knock you out of ketosis, then there was drink lots of water, then only drink when you're thirsty...
So is it best to do ZERO carbs until you are in Ketosis and see the changes before then introducing low level of carbs through greens etc?
Lemming Train I totally agree with you, the Keto 'instructions' are pretty misleading. I have read so much information on Keto this last week and I have read many conflicting things it's hard to know what is right and what wont get results.
Yes I am looking at this diet for weight loss initially, but it will be a permanent lifestyle change, not something that I will do for a few months lose some weight and and then go back to eating carb loaded crap. I am particularly keen on the other health benefits that are associated with it too like the better sleep, energy levels etc.
Its just pretty confusing...
I read no carbs AT all in the initial stages, then I read that you HAVE to have them during all stages, then I read moderate protein, then that protein intake makes no difference and wont knock you out of ketosis, then there was drink lots of water, then only drink when you're thirsty...
So is it best to do ZERO carbs until you are in Ketosis and see the changes before then introducing low level of carbs through greens etc?
OFORBES said:
So is it best to do ZERO carbs until you are in Ketosis and see the changes before then introducing low level of carbs through greens etc?
Aim for zero; it is a near impossible goal. No alcohol, or you won't be in ketosis for sure. You will just get fat.Constipation is dehydration. If you are eating mostly fat you are more risk of the opposite, initially because your body will stop storing water with all the carbs, and later because excess fat will go straight through you.
grumbledoak said:
OFORBES said:
So is it best to do ZERO carbs until you are in Ketosis and see the changes before then introducing low level of carbs through greens etc?
Aim for zero; it is a near impossible goal. No alcohol, or you won't be in ketosis for sure. You will just get fat.Constipation is dehydration. If you are eating mostly fat you are more risk of the opposite, initially because your body will stop storing water with all the carbs, and later because excess fat will go straight through you.
grumbledoak said:
OFORBES said:
So is it best to do ZERO carbs until you are in Ketosis and see the changes before then introducing low level of carbs through greens etc?
Aim for zero; it is a near impossible goal. No alcohol, or you won't be in ketosis for sure. You will just get fat.
OFORBESm you may find yter, Siim helpful, he has many informative videos and is knowledgeable and attempts all he talks about.
KETO BASICS: How to Start the Ketogenic Diet
Siim Land Published on 25 Nov 2017
12mins
https://youtu.be/_ZRZD-S3IqI
KETO BASICS: How to Start the Ketogenic Diet
Siim Land Published on 25 Nov 2017
12mins
https://youtu.be/_ZRZD-S3IqI
t. For all I know it may be great info, but bloody hell.
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