Keto diet - anyone else?

Keto diet - anyone else?

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davgar

347 posts

96 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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Yesterday started keto with aim of weight loss.
Finding the menu planning tricky but will persevere.
How many of you are able to keep this up long term (whilst living in a household who are not doing it)

vtechead

30 posts

136 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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davgar said:
Yesterday started keto with aim of weight loss.
Finding the menu planning tricky but will persevere.
How many of you are able to keep this up long term (whilst living in a household who are not doing it)
I've been doing it for 5 years on my own in my household. I find it pretty easy as generally there is less meal prep time and I eat about half as much as the others as I can go much longer between meals.

BigMacDaddy

963 posts

180 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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Tiggsy said:
I agree with the above.....just "ok" but not much better than a babybelle!

What I have started on lately.....carb crusher bar from My Protein - blended in a bullet to make "sprinkles" over my Greek yog which is served on a "chessecake" base I make each Sunday for the week ahead by melting coconut oil, butter, flax seed and cocoa nibs into a cake tin and slice into slices.

Whole thing tastes like a TGI dessert!
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Recipe/quantities of ingredients required here please! For research purposes you know....

davgar

347 posts

96 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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Thanks for the info.
Feels weird having different meal to family.


vtechead said:
davgar said:
Yesterday started keto with aim of weight loss.
Finding the menu planning tricky but will persevere.
How many of you are able to keep this up long term (whilst living in a household who are not doing it)
I've been doing it for 5 years on my own in my household. I find it pretty easy as generally there is less meal prep time and I eat about half as much as the others as I can go much longer between meals.

Tiggsy

10,261 posts

251 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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vtechead said:
davgar said:
Yesterday started keto with aim of weight loss.
Finding the menu planning tricky but will persevere.
How many of you are able to keep this up long term (whilst living in a household who are not doing it)
I've been doing it for 5 years on my own in my household. I find it pretty easy as generally there is less meal prep time and I eat about half as much as the others as I can go much longer between meals.
I have 3 kids and my partner - it works like this:

a) I'm the man of the house - we eat what I say (not true but I try)
b) They adjusted towards me - sugar crap is gone, my kids all lost weight and are now ripped little athletes
c) They didnt go (and I wouldnt want them to) full keto - the middle one is 15 and 6ft6 and needs carbs to explode that size
d) Its VERY easy to turn a helathy Non Keto meal - keto .... and thats the main point:

Last nights dinner was steak night. I had rib eye (so did massive son) everyone else had rump. I had brocoli and chesse. Every else had less chesse and sweet potato fries. Everyones happy. It just works like that for 99% of meals - I ditch (or go light) on the brown rice/sweet pot/etc. It's rare there is a big difference and when there is, its fine. At the cinema I sneak in my low carb bars and have a black coffee....the kids eat cinema carbs (and pass out when they get home!) Takeaway night is kebabs (monster son eats my pita bread!)

Of all diets - keto is easy to mix up with family life and eating out UNLESS the family is eating true st and eating out means fast food places.

Tiggsy

10,261 posts

251 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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BigMacDaddy said:
Tiggsy said:
I agree with the above.....just "ok" but not much better than a babybelle!

What I have started on lately.....carb crusher bar from My Protein - blended in a bullet to make "sprinkles" over my Greek yog which is served on a "chessecake" base I make each Sunday for the week ahead by melting coconut oil, butter, flax seed and cocoa nibs into a cake tin and slice into slices.

Whole thing tastes like a TGI dessert!
redcard

Recipe/quantities of ingredients required here please! For research purposes you know....
MELT: 150g coconut oil 50g butter - stir in 200g ground flax seed. Tip into a tray and let set in the freezer. Slice into 10 - transfer to fridge. Done! Biscuit base for topping with anything (its dry in the mouth so top with yog/creme/etc

Thats it - if you want to get fancy pants, add some cocoa powder/chia seeds/whatever.

I serve with - dollop on some greek yog and cocoa nibs and ground nuts. I blend up a carb crusher bar. Seriously, its like a TGI Friday desert!

OFORBES

533 posts

99 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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So, lost about a stone and a half and then just for the last few weeks I have had some really busy weeks with business travel internationally and then a run of having at least a few events during the week and every weekend and I crumbled. Way WAY too much alcohol and then of course the biscuit tin raiding happened.

Anyway, as of the end of last week and I am back on it. Seemed much easier this time to get rid of the cravings this time and I feel great. The one killer for me is doing work related social entertaining with clients etc and not drinking wine, beer etc. Then I found Vodka and Soda water! So that's great!

Anyway, the reason for my post is that this time around my hunger seems so suppressed that I am forcing myself to eat to the point of last night actually making myself very nearly sick!

Yesterday I had no breakfast apart from a MCT coffee with cream and then had a very small lunch. I get home and the wife had made me a chicken, bacon, and avocado salad with spinach. One chicken breast, 4 rashers of bacon and half an avocado. I really wasn't hungry at all, and my body was telling me so, but after the wife going to the trouble I thought I'd eat it. I didn't even get half way through before feeling that I couldn't even get another mouthful in! - That has not happened since I was a child.

My question is, does it really matter? Should I be forcing myself to eat, or can I just eat when and how much keto I want?

LordGrover

33,531 posts

211 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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Assuming you're properly fat adapted, short term I wouldn't worry too much so long as you feel well. You'll be burning body fat for fuel so can get away with consuming little food. This may be considered normal.
However, if your body fat level is already low, or lasts for an excessive period of time it may be a little more concerning.

grumbledoak

31,499 posts

232 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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You do still need nutrients, particularly protein - unlike glucose and fat the body has no amino acid store. But, yeah, really only concerning if you don't want to eat for long periods.

Tiggsy

10,261 posts

251 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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As people have said - until you are saying "havent eaten for a few days" - you'll be fine!

Humans are pretty good at getting by on what food comes along - we are also VERY good at getting used to what we do. Hence people used to coco pops for breakfast wont comprehend how you can go a few hours with food - let alone a day!

As for business meetings etc......I've gotten very used to simply not giving a st about what anyone else thinks about my food intake.

We are born only with our body and die only with our body.....for me, that means it has to come ahead of EVERYTHING. Always puzzles me how many mates moan about Brexit, politics, social media - whatever...and don't give a toss about the body they are travelling through this life with! Is it not THE most important thing you have? No matter what happens - nuclear war, alien invasion.....the one certainty is your bod is along for the ride! Look after it.

To be honest - I don't even get how my fat neighbour can be bothered to wash his car when he has to stick his lardy butt in it afterwards. Feels like icing the cake of life when the cake is made of lard. But thats just me!

BigMacDaddy

963 posts

180 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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Tiggsy said:
MELT: 150g coconut oil 50g butter - stir in 200g ground flax seed. Tip into a tray and let set in the freezer. Slice into 10 - transfer to fridge. Done! Biscuit base for topping with anything (its dry in the mouth so top with yog/creme/etc

Thats it - if you want to get fancy pants, add some cocoa powder/chia seeds/whatever.

I serve with - dollop on some greek yog and cocoa nibs and ground nuts. I blend up a carb crusher bar. Seriously, its like a TGI Friday desert!
Lovely, will give that a go this weekend. Cheers bow

feef

5,206 posts

182 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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Tiggsy said:
As people have said - until you are saying "havent eaten for a few days" - you'll be fine!

Humans are pretty good at getting by on what food comes along - we are also VERY good at getting used to what we do. Hence people used to coco pops for breakfast wont comprehend how you can go a few hours with food - let alone a day!

As for business meetings etc......I've gotten very used to simply not giving a st about what anyone else thinks about my food intake.

We are born only with our body and die only with our body.....for me, that means it has to come ahead of EVERYTHING. Always puzzles me how many mates moan about Brexit, politics, social media - whatever...and don't give a toss about the body they are travelling through this life with! Is it not THE most important thing you have? No matter what happens - nuclear war, alien invasion.....the one certainty is your bod is along for the ride! Look after it.

To be honest - I don't even get how my fat neighbour can be bothered to wash his car when he has to stick his lardy butt in it afterwards. Feels like icing the cake of life when the cake is made of lard. But thats just me!
mmm lard!

DuncanM

6,106 posts

278 months

Friday 3rd May 2019
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Tiggsy said:
As people have said - until you are saying "havent eaten for a few days" - you'll be fine!

Humans are pretty good at getting by on what food comes along - we are also VERY good at getting used to what we do. Hence people used to coco pops for breakfast wont comprehend how you can go a few hours with food - let alone a day!

As for business meetings etc......I've gotten very used to simply not giving a st about what anyone else thinks about my food intake.

We are born only with our body and die only with our body.....for me, that means it has to come ahead of EVERYTHING. Always puzzles me how many mates moan about Brexit, politics, social media - whatever...and don't give a toss about the body they are travelling through this life with! Is it not THE most important thing you have? No matter what happens - nuclear war, alien invasion.....the one certainty is your bod is along for the ride! Look after it.

To be honest - I don't even get how my fat neighbour can be bothered to wash his car when he has to stick his lardy butt in it afterwards. Feels like icing the cake of life when the cake is made of lard. But thats just me!
By your own admission, haven't you struggled in the past with your weight, and used to be massive?

Being overweight is a really hard thing to tackle, very much a mental issue for most.

Tiggsy

10,261 posts

251 months

Friday 3rd May 2019
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DuncanM said:
By your own admission, haven't you struggled in the past with your weight, and used to be massive?

Being overweight is a really hard thing to tackle, very much a mental issue for most.
Yes - but I still felt the same at 23 stone.

DuncanM

6,106 posts

278 months

Friday 3rd May 2019
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Tiggsy said:
Yes - but I still felt the same at 23 stone.
Ok, I don't really get the disgusted at your neighbour thing if you've been big yourself. I'd expect a kinder outlook from someone who has struggled with the same thing.

My take is that NO ONE WANTS TO BE FAT. NO ONE.

Even if that's just a couple of stone, it makes everything a little bit rubbish. Clothes fit poorly, sweat more, and so on and so forth.

I'm 6 foot and weigh 14st 9. I hate it, and need to get under 13st, despite many people saying I don't look overweight.

Everyone finds their own way, this keto thread has been brilliant, with lots of positive stories, including yours Tiggsy!

Dick Dastardly

8,312 posts

262 months

Wednesday 8th May 2019
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Just had a M&S Meat’zza.

Surprised to see a bread free pizza on their shelves, seems quite a niche offering for them. They’ve replaced the dough base with one made of pork.

Tasted good and filled me up. I’ll be buying some more.

320g and every 100g is 6 carbs, 12 protein and 18 fat.

Lemming Train

5,567 posts

71 months

Wednesday 8th May 2019
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Dick Dastardly said:
Just had a M&S Meat’zza.

Surprised to see a bread free pizza on their shelves, seems quite a niche offering for them. They’ve replaced the dough base with one made of pork.

Tasted good and filled me up. I’ll be buying some more.

320g and every 100g is 6 carbs, 12 protein and 18 fat.
Oooh! Good post, Dick!

https://twitter.com/marksandspencer/status/1122870...

Pork, pepperoni, cheese and only 20 grams?? Sounds right up my street. What size are they and how much are they?

Dick Dastardly

8,312 posts

262 months

Wednesday 8th May 2019
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Size of a small plate so not a huge meal. 3 for a tenner.

ArsE92

21,007 posts

186 months

Wednesday 8th May 2019
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Dick Dastardly said:
Just had a M&S Meat’zza.

Surprised to see a bread free pizza on their shelves, seems quite a niche offering for them. They’ve replaced the dough base with one made of pork.

Tasted good and filled me up. I’ll be buying some more.

320g and every 100g is 6 carbs, 12 protein and 18 fat.
That sounds fantastic. M&S also do a lovely Chicken Madras which is 10g carbs thumbup. Works well with cauliflower rice.

Tiggsy

10,261 posts

251 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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DuncanM said:
Ok, I don't really get the disgusted at your neighbour thing if you've been big yourself. I'd expect a kinder outlook from someone who has struggled with the same thing.
I was 23 stone! Trust me.....I was pretty disgusting!

I understand 100% the difficulty - the addiction - that there should be no "blame"..... but I'm all for a little disgust. The solution for me was to get up and run instead of eat, anything that pushed me out the door was good and if that push came from my wife/kids thinking I looked grim (which they did, because they had eyes!) then all the better.

Disgusting doesn't come from a dislike of the individual....it comes from the deformity done to the human body. If my kid chopped his finger off in a freak sandwich cutting accident....that would be disgusting. I'd still love him! If he said he didn't need hospital, I'd say "are you kidding....that looks grim". It's the same response I'd give if he told me his fat belly didn't need dealing with. All my kids have gone through a fat stage...they all came out the other side well aware they had create a version of themselves they should not be happy with...so they fixed it (with help and support from me, and their own hard work)

I just feel we are a little too accepting of people damaging themselves in this particular way and it does them (as it did me) no favours. If a kid goes into my sons school and is obese it's "ok".....yet if she went in with scars on her arm from self harming they'd be all over it to get her help. Wall-E had it right. wink