Keto diet - anyone else?
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Thanks for the replies, Jim and LT.
If you'd care to re-read what I wrote, I said I was cancelling my Huel subscription and concentrating on going 'keto'. I also admitted to drinking too much, which I am to change, starting today.
My desk at work is now stuffed with nuts, jerky and pork scratchings. There's also some cooked chicken and cheese in the fridge. Had meatza for dinner last night, too.
Now, about those recipes.....?
If you'd care to re-read what I wrote, I said I was cancelling my Huel subscription and concentrating on going 'keto'. I also admitted to drinking too much, which I am to change, starting today.
My desk at work is now stuffed with nuts, jerky and pork scratchings. There's also some cooked chicken and cheese in the fridge. Had meatza for dinner last night, too.
Now, about those recipes.....?
Keep it simple.
Meat and eggs. Occasional low oxalate/low carb veg for 'variety'. Sometimes have dairy in the form of butter, yoghurt or cheese. Very occasional gold top milk or double cream.
...or... plenty of 'keto products' and recipes out there, but they either keep you thinking about/wanting 'normal' food or are simply junk in disguise, just low carb junk.
Meat and eggs. Occasional low oxalate/low carb veg for 'variety'. Sometimes have dairy in the form of butter, yoghurt or cheese. Very occasional gold top milk or double cream.
...or... plenty of 'keto products' and recipes out there, but they either keep you thinking about/wanting 'normal' food or are simply junk in disguise, just low carb junk.
Sorry, I'm a late comer to this thread/idea.
I'm interested, but all I seem to be able to find on line, are links to sites where you fill out a questionnair, that then leads to a sale of some kind
Can anybody recommend a free guide/site, where I can get an idea of what's involved, to see wether it;s something I could stick to?
Many thanks
I'm interested, but all I seem to be able to find on line, are links to sites where you fill out a questionnair, that then leads to a sale of some kind
Can anybody recommend a free guide/site, where I can get an idea of what's involved, to see wether it;s something I could stick to?
Many thanks
There's a decent basic guide and recipes here:
https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/keto
If you want to know the why and how read the books by Gary Taubes and Nina Teicholz.
https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/keto
If you want to know the why and how read the books by Gary Taubes and Nina Teicholz.
mattnovak said:
Thanks for the replies, Jim and LT.
If you'd care to re-read what I wrote, I said I was cancelling my Huel subscription and concentrating on going 'keto'. I also admitted to drinking too much, which I am to change, starting today.
My desk at work is now stuffed with nuts, jerky and pork scratchings. There's also some cooked chicken and cheese in the fridge. Had meatza for dinner last night, too.
Now, about those recipes.....?
Looks like I did misunderstand so apologies.If you'd care to re-read what I wrote, I said I was cancelling my Huel subscription and concentrating on going 'keto'. I also admitted to drinking too much, which I am to change, starting today.
My desk at work is now stuffed with nuts, jerky and pork scratchings. There's also some cooked chicken and cheese in the fridge. Had meatza for dinner last night, too.
Now, about those recipes.....?
Crustless Quiche is your friend for work I found. You can load it up with loads of tasty fatty meats and cheeses and both of those have protein plus the eggs.
Legacywr said:
Sorry, I'm a late comer to this thread/idea.
I'm interested, but all I seem to be able to find on line, are links to sites where you fill out a questionnair, that then leads to a sale of some kind
Can anybody recommend a free guide/site, where I can get an idea of what's involved, to see wether it;s something I could stick to?
Many thanks
I've been doing keto since this March, most of the info I've used has come from Reddit guides/wikis on https://www.reddit.com/r/keto/ (bigger, but with an American bias) and https://www.reddit.com/r/ketouk/, plus the "forum" side is generally quite active and helpful for any questions. I'm interested, but all I seem to be able to find on line, are links to sites where you fill out a questionnair, that then leads to a sale of some kind
Can anybody recommend a free guide/site, where I can get an idea of what's involved, to see wether it;s something I could stick to?
Many thanks
Lemming Train said:
Taita said:
Bloody hell, 3kg from one big night?
Oh yeah. It can do quite easily, especially if your body is already a bit low on fluids. Foods like pizza, bread etc are very dense and also act like a sponge for beer and sugary pop. I've had it happen on many occasions when I've been low-carbing and decided to celebrate reaching a target with a big carby feast like that. 3kg is the top end but a 2-2.5kg increase is pretty much guaranteed on the scales the next morning after an 11" pizza and some beer/pop the previous evening. Add on some ice-cream or cake as well and you'll be looking at 3kg.R.Sole said:
Lemming Train said:
Taita said:
Bloody hell, 3kg from one big night?
Oh yeah. It can do quite easily, especially if your body is already a bit low on fluids. Foods like pizza, bread etc are very dense and also act like a sponge for beer and sugary pop. I've had it happen on many occasions when I've been low-carbing and decided to celebrate reaching a target with a big carby feast like that. 3kg is the top end but a 2-2.5kg increase is pretty much guaranteed on the scales the next morning after an 11" pizza and some beer/pop the previous evening. Add on some ice-cream or cake as well and you'll be looking at 3kg.Also worry noting Keto is probably the worst diet to do if you want to have cheat binges.
Jim on the hill said:
R.Sole said:
Lemming Train said:
Taita said:
Bloody hell, 3kg from one big night?
Oh yeah. It can do quite easily, especially if your body is already a bit low on fluids. Foods like pizza, bread etc are very dense and also act like a sponge for beer and sugary pop. I've had it happen on many occasions when I've been low-carbing and decided to celebrate reaching a target with a big carby feast like that. 3kg is the top end but a 2-2.5kg increase is pretty much guaranteed on the scales the next morning after an 11" pizza and some beer/pop the previous evening. Add on some ice-cream or cake as well and you'll be looking at 3kg.Also worry noting Keto is probably the worst diet to do if you want to have cheat binges.
Edited by Lemming Train on Wednesday 24th July 14:27
Legacywr said:
Thanks for links fellas
Still a bit daunting when you’re a bit dyslexic
Getting started is the hard part I guess.
I have found out that vodka and slimline seems to have 0 restrictions....?
Don't get too excited, alcohol contains carbohydrates. Knock yourself out of ketosis too often and you'll be piling the fat on.Still a bit daunting when you’re a bit dyslexic
Getting started is the hard part I guess.
I have found out that vodka and slimline seems to have 0 restrictions....?
Cheats on keto tend to be fat based - peanut butter with a spoon, or clotted cream with a couple of berries.
grumbledoak said:
Legacywr said:
Thanks for links fellas
Still a bit daunting when you’re a bit dyslexic
Getting started is the hard part I guess.
I have found out that vodka and slimline seems to have 0 restrictions....?
Don't get too excited, alcohol contains carbohydrates. Knock yourself out of ketosis too often and you'll be piling the fat on.Still a bit daunting when you’re a bit dyslexic
Getting started is the hard part I guess.
I have found out that vodka and slimline seems to have 0 restrictions....?
Cheats on keto tend to be fat based - peanut butter with a spoon, or clotted cream with a couple of berries.
https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/keto/alcohol-g...
Of course, I could be, and probably am, reading it wrong?
Legacywr said:
grumbledoak said:
Legacywr said:
Thanks for links fellas
Still a bit daunting when you’re a bit dyslexic
Getting started is the hard part I guess.
I have found out that vodka and slimline seems to have 0 restrictions....?
Don't get too excited, alcohol contains carbohydrates. Knock yourself out of ketosis too often and you'll be piling the fat on.Still a bit daunting when you’re a bit dyslexic
Getting started is the hard part I guess.
I have found out that vodka and slimline seems to have 0 restrictions....?
Cheats on keto tend to be fat based - peanut butter with a spoon, or clotted cream with a couple of berries.
https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/keto/alcohol-g...
Of course, I could be, and probably am, reading it wrong?
However if you know you're the sort that can have a couple and leave it at that and you're on vodka, brandy, some wine you should be okay. IME though it's best to get fully adjusted to keto in both lifestyle and body before having alcohol. And beware your tolerance may go down on keto.
Legacywr said:
I would normally agree with you, but, this states otherwise?
https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/keto/alcohol-g...
Of course, I could be, and probably am, reading it wrong?
I don't disagree with his measures, but if you think you can do keto and drink alcohol regularly you should keep hold of the bigger size trousers. One glass of wine will knock you out of ketosis for up to 24 hours. Do it often enough, while eating a lot of fat but not getting good at burning it, and you can guess the rest.https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/keto/alcohol-g...
Of course, I could be, and probably am, reading it wrong?
Legacywr said:
Oh
I live for my Friday and Saturday nights out.
Yeah. That's not going to work too well. I live for my Friday and Saturday nights out.
Keto works because it keeps your body in fat burning mode by not giving it any alternative. It's not a quick switch. It takes about a month to "transition" when first you make the change. From then on you can have the occasional blow out and transition back over a day or two, then carry on. But you can't do it every week; you just won't ever be fat burning. And you'll be eating a lot of fat...
Legacywr said:
Thanks for links fellas
Still a bit daunting when you’re a bit dyslexic
Getting started is the hard part I guess.
I have found out that vodka and slimline seems to have 0 restrictions....?
The first month was the hardest for me, learning what food is ok and portion sizes, after then, I stopped weighing everything as it became routine. Still a bit daunting when you’re a bit dyslexic
Getting started is the hard part I guess.
I have found out that vodka and slimline seems to have 0 restrictions....?
It can be more of a challenge eating out, but you can usually find salad and chicken/steak.
It has been easier than I expected sticking to the diet and 20kg (3 stone) down in 4 months from 105kg
Good luck!
Lemming Train said:
Jim on the hill said:
R.Sole said:
Lemming Train said:
Taita said:
Bloody hell, 3kg from one big night?
Oh yeah. It can do quite easily, especially if your body is already a bit low on fluids. Foods like pizza, bread etc are very dense and also act like a sponge for beer and sugary pop. I've had it happen on many occasions when I've been low-carbing and decided to celebrate reaching a target with a big carby feast like that. 3kg is the top end but a 2-2.5kg increase is pretty much guaranteed on the scales the next morning after an 11" pizza and some beer/pop the previous evening. Add on some ice-cream or cake as well and you'll be looking at 3kg.Also worry noting Keto is probably the worst diet to do if you want to have cheat binges.
Edited by Lemming Train on Wednesday 24th July 14:27
My figures were out by 15% ish it's actually 3,500 calories so yeah 23,100 calories.
I'm not saying you are a liar (why would I) or that your scales are wrong.
I'm just letting you know that your body couldn't possibly have stored all that weight as new fat. It's genuinely impossible.
Your weight is probably mostly water so it should come off within the following days. I used to have the occasional binge and saw some great numbers on the scale the next day. All dropped off within the week but I never did Keto for weight loss I liked the mental clarity and the endurance energy it offered for long distance activities.
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