Steroids ?

[popeyewhite]

markcoznottz said:

It’s still juicing, despite what they convince themselves of. You have more test than any human ever has had naturally, presumably you are in a state of heightened protein synthesis just like any other ped. How many grams per week would a 60 yr old guy produce, (someone lifetime clean)?

Is that rhetorical? I imagine you mean milligrams (!) but I guess the answer would be not very much at all. Yeah it's still juicing, but what's also interesting is the way these guys convince themselves they're not juicing. All the health worries of doing PEDS purchased from the gym are somehow mitigated now their cruise levels of test are supplied via prescription from a doctor.
"It's not cheating either, because it's medical test"

[lord trumpton]

Where do all you steroid users get them from then?

Assuming they are not available to buy over the counter, is it a case of 'dodgy Dave' at the gym who supplies them?

If so, how do you know they are genuine/safe etc?

[AJB88]

lord trumpton said:

Where do all you steroid users get them from then?

Assuming they are not available to buy over the counter, is it a case of 'dodgy Dave' at the gym who supplies them?

If so, how do you know they are genuine/safe etc?

I've never used them but yeh can get them at my gym.

[vonuber]

lord trumpton said:

Where do all you steroid users get them from then?

Assuming they are not available to buy over the counter, is it a case of 'dodgy Dave' at the gym who supplies them?

If so, how do you know they are genuine/safe etc?

The NHS, usually 6 months prescription at a time. Debbie the endocrine nurse usually puts it in for me.

[Ilovejapcrap]

Has anyone posted cartman from south park beefcake reference yet ?

[Bloxxcreative]

lord trumpton said:

Where do all you steroid users get them from then?

Assuming they are not available to buy over the counter, is it a case of 'dodgy Dave' at the gym who supplies them?

If so, how do you know they are genuine/safe etc?

Find a big guy in the gym, subtley ask if they know how to attain some. Most people get them from recommendations either in person or over Internet sellers with reputations.

In short, you don't know if they'll be genuine/safe apart from going with the most reputable brands and sellers.

[robm3]

My brother brought some MK 677 (8mg tablets) back from Russia (SARMS?) and gave me a bottle. He's really into the science behind all this so I trust him. I did two doses a day for 10 weeks.

Made a big difference to me on the second week, quick recovery and didn't feel tired. Helped across the board on strength training I was doing as well, about a 15% increase in loads and reps.

I was 48 at the time (two years back). I didn't have any side effects that have been mentioned. When I finished the course I did try and keep the discipline to work out but dropped back to 'normal/baseline' after about two months.

I'd probably do it again if my brother had more but wouldn't go out of my way to get them.

Anyhow, just some honest feedback from myself.

[lemmingjames]

wsurfa said:

I'm returning to some minor lifting after a while out, I've got apparently a front shoulder capsule injury which is progressing, but I'd like to help it along.

Currently doing 5x5 which I used to do (previous top 5 DL 250kg, squat 185, BP 125) and weights are a way off, but getting better.

How do you think your combo might help the injury recovery as well as total performance?

thanks

not sure if your still here wsurfa, but how did you find the SARMS for your recovery?

[Jim on the hill]

robm3 said:

My brother brought some MK 677 (8mg tablets) back from Russia (SARMS?) and gave me a bottle. He's really into the science behind all this so I trust him. I did two doses a day for 10 weeks.

Made a big difference to me on the second week, quick recovery and didn't feel tired. Helped across the board on strength training I was doing as well, about a 15% increase in loads and reps.

I was 48 at the time (two years back). I didn't have any side effects that have been mentioned. When I finished the course I did try and keep the discipline to work out but dropped back to 'normal/baseline' after about two months.

I'd probably do it again if my brother had more but wouldn't go out of my way to get them.

Anyhow, just some honest feedback from myself.

Did you keep any of the strength gains or was it hard to tell?

[AJB88]

robm3 said:

My brother brought some MK 677 (8mg tablets) back from Russia (SARMS?) and gave me a bottle. He's really into the science behind all this so I trust him. I did two doses a day for 10 weeks.

Made a big difference to me on the second week, quick recovery and didn't feel tired. Helped across the board on strength training I was doing as well, about a 15% increase in loads and reps.

I was 48 at the time (two years back). I didn't have any side effects that have been mentioned. When I finished the course I did try and keep the discipline to work out but dropped back to 'normal/baseline' after about two months.

I'd probably do it again if my brother had more but wouldn't go out of my way to get them.

Anyhow, just some honest feedback from myself.

I know a local supplier who has them. Never tried anything myself.

[robm3]

Jim on the hill said:

robm3 said:

My brother brought some MK 677 (8mg tablets) back from Russia (SARMS?) and gave me a bottle. He's really into the science behind all this so I trust him. I did two doses a day for 10 weeks.

Made a big difference to me on the second week, quick recovery and didn't feel tired. Helped across the board on strength training I was doing as well, about a 15% increase in loads and reps.

I was 48 at the time (two years back). I didn't have any side effects that have been mentioned. When I finished the course I did try and keep the discipline to work out but dropped back to 'normal/baseline' after about two months.

I'd probably do it again if my brother had more but wouldn't go out of my way to get them.

Anyhow, just some honest feedback from myself.

Did you keep any of the strength gains or was it hard to tell?

It is hard to tell, because I definitely trained harder with less repercussions during the cycle. So there's a big lag of that work you put in.
But I'd say not. The gains "faded" over about three months.

[popeyewhite]

robm3 said:

It is hard to tell, because I definitely trained harder with less repercussions during the cycle. So there's a big lag of that work you put in.
But I'd say not. The gains "faded" over about three months.

I think of it this way: doing a cycle of anything is like going up a mountain - that's the easy bit. The hard bit - coming back down again - is getting your subsequent training/nutrition bang on so you keep a decent % of your gains in lean mass and strength. Assuming you're going to come off at all that is.