How much do you drink, honestly?

How much do you drink, honestly?

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xx99xx

1,892 posts

72 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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Taa. Weed is a big no, as is anything smoked. Because, for 1 reason, it need to be discreet.

Music doesn't really do it for me in terms of a buzz. Music sounds better after a few beers.

I've tried various supplements over my lifetime, including huge doses of caffeine (which actually sent me to sleep bizarrely) but nothing really gives me an adequate buzz. I've never done illegal substances and I'm too old to be starting now. Plus they're likely to be just as bad for me as booze, health wise.

Before anyone asks, I do not get a buzz from exercise. These supposed endorphins that are supposedly released from exercise.......never had 'em (despite bouts of heavy exercise).

TameRacingDriver

18,048 posts

271 months

Monday 20th August 2018
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I don't think you're going to find anything that gives you the same buzz as alcohol as really there isn't much else like it. Weed can be discrete, you don't have to smoke it, you can vape or have it edibles, the latter being more discrete than drinking although you have to be very careful with the dose. I don't really have any other suggestions I'm afraid, I think you'll just have accept that it is what it is..

In other news I'm just going to try and do all week dry this week..I'm still getting heartburn from drinking and the only way I know of to stop that is to have a few days off the booze. Ideally if I can make a habit of it then great but equally I'm not going to commit to never drinking in a week night as I'll not keep to it. I do think I'm gonna have to try though...

FocusRS3

3,411 posts

90 months

Monday 20th August 2018
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Having not drank y'day but watch others around me get pretty 'relaxed' its tempting do have a small one tonight. Monday madness is never a good start to the week however

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

197 months

Monday 20th August 2018
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Weed mixed with absinthe FFS - no I didn’t buy any but this was for sale in many different shops in this village. (They also sell factor 0/1/2/3/4/5 “oils” too eye roll, I use factor 50).
To think people actually buy that shot and go for it - it’s lethal.

Robertj21a

16,475 posts

104 months

Tuesday 21st August 2018
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There's an interesting article in The Times today interviewing Adrian Charles, who had been drinking 100 units a week until a scan showed he was heading for cirrhosis. Interestingly, he didn't feel he was an alcoholic or dependant on alcohol but recognises that he wouldn't now be on medication if he'd held back a bit.
The article covers 2 pages but unfortunately The Times is behind a paywall.

FocusRS3

3,411 posts

90 months

Tuesday 21st August 2018
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Robertj21a said:
There's an interesting article in The Times today interviewing Adrian Charles, who had been drinking 100 units a week until a scan showed he was heading for cirrhosis. Interestingly, he didn't feel he was an alcoholic or dependant on alcohol but recognises that he wouldn't now be on medication if he'd held back a bit.
The article covers 2 pages but unfortunately The Times is behind a paywall.
That does seem (to me ) an excessive amount of booze.

From what I can tell its circa 50 pints a week or 50 glasses or vino a week...does that sound right?

I'm nothing like that in terms of consumption

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

197 months

Tuesday 21st August 2018
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FocusRS3 said:
Robertj21a said:
There's an interesting article in The Times today interviewing Adrian Charles, who had been drinking 100 units a week until a scan showed he was heading for cirrhosis. Interestingly, he didn't feel he was an alcoholic or dependant on alcohol but recognises that he wouldn't now be on medication if he'd held back a bit.
The article covers 2 pages but unfortunately The Times is behind a paywall.
That does seem (to me ) an excessive amount of booze.

From what I can tell its circa 50 pints a week or 50 glasses or vino a week...does that sound right?

I'm nothing like that in terms of consumption
A beer is more than 2 units some MUCH more so he might only need 20

FocusRS3

3,411 posts

90 months

Tuesday 21st August 2018
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Welshbeef said:
A beer is more than 2 units some MUCH more so he might only need 20
Ok tks ....and wine ???

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

125 months

Tuesday 21st August 2018
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FocusRS3 said:
Robertj21a said:
There's an interesting article in The Times today interviewing Adrian Charles, who had been drinking 100 units a week until a scan showed he was heading for cirrhosis. Interestingly, he didn't feel he was an alcoholic or dependant on alcohol but recognises that he wouldn't now be on medication if he'd held back a bit.
The article covers 2 pages but unfortunately The Times is behind a paywall.
That does seem (to me ) an excessive amount of booze.

From what I can tell its circa 50 pints a week or 50 glasses or vino a week...does that sound right?

I'm nothing like that in terms of consumption
FocusRS3 said:
Ok tks ....and wine ???
Units are dead easy to calculate. Look at the ABV. That's the number of units in a litre.

100 units = 10 litres of 10%, 20 litres of 5% = 35 pints/wk of 5% beer, or a bit under 10 bottles/wk of 14% wine, or 3.5 bottles/wk of 37.5% spirits...

It's a lot, sure. A hell of a lot. But it's not exactly unfeasible for a big guy who likes a drink or three.

The Times article might not be easily available, but a quick google finds plenty of other articles - seems there's an upcoming prog.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/adrian-chiles-...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0bhkc8b

TameRacingDriver

18,048 posts

271 months

Tuesday 21st August 2018
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And yet until a few weeks ago I was drinking effortlessly more than that.

I am certain that I would not have made 50 if I have not / do not cut down. That's assuming I've not already gone beyond the point of no return. You can't think like that though...

Managed to stay off the drink last night despite it being one of my designated drinking days. I did instinctively go for a can when I got home but that's just habit (as the article says).

FiF

43,962 posts

250 months

Tuesday 21st August 2018
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Listening to Adrian Chiles' interview this morning he believed he was only drinking in the order of "a couple of pints of Guinness with a mate." But when he added it up, despite not fancying a drink every day all day.

That last bit was a quote from someone on the forthcoming programme, now dry for 15 years. The programme does seem to be focused towards many of the contributors on this thread.

Now if it's a case of fancying something most days, throughout the day, help! Biscuits! Only way I control it is not buying them.

Badda

2,655 posts

81 months

Tuesday 21st August 2018
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Welshbeef said:
FocusRS3 said:
Robertj21a said:
There's an interesting article in The Times today interviewing Adrian Charles, who had been drinking 100 units a week until a scan showed he was heading for cirrhosis. Interestingly, he didn't feel he was an alcoholic or dependant on alcohol but recognises that he wouldn't now be on medication if he'd held back a bit.
The article covers 2 pages but unfortunately The Times is behind a paywall.
That does seem (to me ) an excessive amount of booze.

From what I can tell its circa 50 pints a week or 50 glasses or vino a week...does that sound right?

I'm nothing like that in terms of consumption
A beer is more than 2 units some MUCH more so he might only need 20
Not really true. If it was 20, they'd need to be ~10% each. Not many people drink 3 pints a night of 10% beer.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

125 months

Tuesday 21st August 2018
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Badda said:
Not many people drink 3 pints a night of 10% beer.
<shuffles feet>
This stuff was very reasonably priced on the bar at an event in Belgium the other weekend...


craig1912

3,273 posts

111 months

Tuesday 21st August 2018
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Article for anyone interested (think it might be time limited)

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/whats-wrong-wit...

devnull

3,745 posts

156 months

Tuesday 21st August 2018
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Welshbeef said:




Weed mixed with absinthe FFS - no I didn’t buy any but this was for sale in many different shops in this village. (They also sell factor 0/1/2/3/4/5 “oils” too eye roll, I use factor 50).
To think people actually buy that shot and go for it - it’s lethal.
It's just a brand of absinthe - everywhere in the canaries. Very highly doubt it contains weed.

I've tried it - alcoholic to the point where it can only serve to get you pissed and offers no taste apart from strong aniseed.

Driver101

14,376 posts

120 months

Tuesday 21st August 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
Units are dead easy to calculate. Look at the ABV. That's the number of units in a litre.

100 units = 10 litres of 10%, 20 litres of 5% = 35 pints/wk of 5% beer, or a bit under 10 bottles/wk of 14% wine, or 3.5 bottles/wk of 37.5% spirits...

It's a lot, sure. A hell of a lot. But it's not exactly unfeasible for a big guy who likes a drink or three.

The Times article might not be easily available, but a quick google finds plenty of other articles - seems there's an upcoming prog.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/adrian-chiles-...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0bhkc8b
The easiest way to calculate volume of the drink x the ABV then divided by 1000.

14x750=10,500. 10,500÷1000=10.5 units.

100 units ÷10.5 units per 750ml bottle=9.5 bottles.

37.5% alcohol spirits in a 700ml bottle

37.5x700=26,250. 26,250÷1000=26.25units.

100÷26.25=3.8 bottles of spirits.




Edited by Driver101 on Tuesday 21st August 12:13

TheJimi

24,862 posts

242 months

Tuesday 21st August 2018
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100 units a week is a LOT, as illustrated above.

I think Mr Chiles is talking bks when he says he was shocked about how much he drank.

You'd need to be either VERY jaded or have your head firmly in the sand to not twig that a weekly rate of 80-100 units is a lot of alcohol.

Edited by TheJimi on Tuesday 21st August 12:54

rossub

4,400 posts

189 months

Tuesday 21st August 2018
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TheJimi said:
100 units a week is a LOT, as illustrated above.

I think Mr Chiles is talking bks when he says he was shocked about how much he drank.

You'd need to be either VERY jaded or have your head firmly in the sand to not twig that a weekly rate of 80-100 units is a lot of alcohol.

Edited by TheJimi on Tuesday 21st August 12:54
Totally agree. For someone who is supposedly relatively intelligent, there is no way he didn't know he was drinking far too much. I drink 50-60% of that and I still know that's a little too much.

TameRacingDriver

18,048 posts

271 months

Tuesday 21st August 2018
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Tbh based on my own experience, 100 is a lot, but it's so easily done that I actually think he's probably being economical with the truth; I actually reckon he drinks/drank a hell of a lot more than he's letting on.

As I say not so long back 1.5 bottles of red a night at least Monday to Thursday , there's 60+ units before you even begin with the weekend. Then anything up to another 30 on a Friday night and then on it again Saturday night in the house (another 2 bottles) and then on Sunday all day, usually at least another 2 bottles of red and a few beers and maybe some shots for good measure. So there's 70-80 on a weekend, and there you go, 140 units. And I know people who drink WAY more than what I've just described.

Hopefully he's seen the error of his ways. I know I have.

FocusRS3

3,411 posts

90 months

Tuesday 21st August 2018
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The biggest problem I find is how badly booze affects my sleep.

Some seem to never have this issue but I'm man down after a big night