What training are you doing/have you done today? (Vol.3)
Discussion
Today, back session with my wife and daughter, lat pull downs with the fat grip bar, 5 sets of 5 full stack that 220lb on our machine, then 8 sets of 5 weighted finger tip pull ups with 20kg, my wife and daughter both managed two in a row which is great, then an all out set of 35 of neutral grip BW pull ups.
This afternoon was a steady hour on Zwift, no swimming again due to storms.
This afternoon was a steady hour on Zwift, no swimming again due to storms.
Daughter introduced me to an App, Hevy, where you can track your workouts really simply so going to start using it this week. Have also moved to Chronometer for meal tracking as it seems very highly rated for a free App. Have entered my Monday to Friday meal plan, let's see if I can religiously stick to it. Weight has stalled last few weeks but I've not done much for various reasons. Monday to Friday will be hard on the diet I have entered, a bit like Mr R did, essentially the same wholefoods day in day out but topped up with Protein shake and scoop of oats three times a day. Hopefully see a difference on scales.
Have a great week all, peace and love, gbn x
Have a great week all, peace and love, gbn x
biggbn said:
Daughter introduced me to an App, Hevy, where you can track your workouts really simply so going to start using it this week. Have also moved to Chronometer for meal tracking as it seems very highly rated for a free App. Have entered my Monday to Friday meal plan, let's see if I can religiously stick to it. Weight has stalled last few weeks but I've not done much for various reasons. Monday to Friday will be hard on the diet I have entered, a bit like Mr R did, essentially the same wholefoods day in day out but topped up with Protein shake and scoop of oats three times a day. Hopefully see a difference on scales.
Have a great week all, peace and love, gbn x
Been using it for a while until I had to stop training; it's well worth it's yearly feeHave a great week all, peace and love, gbn x
It syncs with Samsung Health and my Watch Ultra perfectly
Its Just Adz said:
I'll have a look at the Hevy app. I don't track my workout, just tend to go off feel and memory.
The food app you mention, does it give option to scan the barcode on foods? Or search for brands?
My wife wants to use one but it needs to be easy and obviously better if free.
Yes, you can scan barcodes even with the free version. I put my weeks scran on in less than 15 minutes. I've never tracked workouts other than posting here, but having them written down will likely keep me honest!!The food app you mention, does it give option to scan the barcode on foods? Or search for brands?
My wife wants to use one but it needs to be easy and obviously better if free.
Edited by biggbn on Sunday 25th January 15:22
danb79 said:
biggbn said:
Daughter introduced me to an App, Hevy, where you can track your workouts really simply so going to start using it this week. Have also moved to Chronometer for meal tracking as it seems very highly rated for a free App. Have entered my Monday to Friday meal plan, let's see if I can religiously stick to it. Weight has stalled last few weeks but I've not done much for various reasons. Monday to Friday will be hard on the diet I have entered, a bit like Mr R did, essentially the same wholefoods day in day out but topped up with Protein shake and scoop of oats three times a day. Hopefully see a difference on scales.
Have a great week all, peace and love, gbn x
Been using it for a while until I had to stop training; it's well worth it's yearly feeHave a great week all, peace and love, gbn x
It syncs with Samsung Health and my Watch Ultra perfectly
biggbn said:
Yes, you can scan barcodes even with the free version. I put my weeks scran on in less than 15 minutes. I've never tracked workouts other than posting here, but having them written down will likely keep me honest!!
Thanks, I'll have a look.Edited by biggbn on Sunday 25th January 15:22
Sweet FA for me today. Staying horizontal as much as possible.
Hands are bruised and torn. Forearms red raw*. But, touch wood, not feeling overly fatigued and ready for another hard training week. Be surprised if I have more than 2 heavy sessions left to do now.
Was down to 90.3kg this morning, still picking up PBs here and there and never felt more able to push it hard while fatigued during a session.
Hands are bruised and torn. Forearms red raw*. But, touch wood, not feeling overly fatigued and ready for another hard training week. Be surprised if I have more than 2 heavy sessions left to do now.
Was down to 90.3kg this morning, still picking up PBs here and there and never felt more able to push it hard while fatigued during a session.
- from carrying this f
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Edited by horsemeatscandal on Sunday 25th January 16:29
Today, rare Sunday gym session, so heavy shoulders, hammer strength top set of 140 for 6 then 10 with 120, then 25 with 80, 40 reps with 6kg each-side laterals as a finisher, the one set of triceps push downs (cables) 88kg.
Zwifting this afternoon, 100km in 2hrs 15 minutes, lots of of sprints included, and finally back in the sea too.
Zwifting this afternoon, 100km in 2hrs 15 minutes, lots of of sprints included, and finally back in the sea too.
As I mentioned a while back, I'm very new to deadlifts.
The issue I have is that I'm naturally (and from other exercises) strong posterior chain wise. My issue is grip.
I can hang for ages (though I'm only giving my hands 73kg to deal with) and do other stuff, but I'm struggling with standard grip on the deadlift and the rest of me is finding it easy.
So, what's my best way forward? Grips/straps/other exercises etc? I have some 100kg hand grips somewhere, but maybe I need to work them some other way. Feels quite different from hangs for me.
The issue I have is that I'm naturally (and from other exercises) strong posterior chain wise. My issue is grip.
I can hang for ages (though I'm only giving my hands 73kg to deal with) and do other stuff, but I'm struggling with standard grip on the deadlift and the rest of me is finding it easy.
So, what's my best way forward? Grips/straps/other exercises etc? I have some 100kg hand grips somewhere, but maybe I need to work them some other way. Feels quite different from hangs for me.
Really struggled with my squats tonight. I was doing 160 for 3 in August last year and I'm finding 125 tough now, and even binned off my back off sets at 112.5 as my lower back was feeling a bit off. I might switch to some alternatives for a while and give my back a little break. I just worry that my core strength will continue to deteriorate if I do though. Not sure how to proceed really. Also struggled with my DB shoulder press tonight, not a great session overall tbh. 
Uh oh...
There's sooo much stuff out there for training grip but a lot of it is specialist and/or expensive. I think for that particular type of grip strength, hangs are good, you could do them weighted. I think sets of e.g. 30 secs is better than one max. hang. Deadlifts don't last 3 minutes. You could get some fat grips which are cheap and can be incorporated into normal exercises such as curls. Heavy farmers walks/carries. Behind the back barbell holds are good (behind the back so you don't cheat and rest the bar on your thighs). You could get some grippers (the squeezy things), they're cheap. Some grip balls for an alternative hang/pull-up. Towel curls. After that you're into expensive and specialist stuff like Saxon bars and rolling handles etc.
Hmm, what else? Plate pinches but that's a slightly different type of grip although there's obviously crossover. Constant tension deadlifts?
I've actually considered taking up bouldering so help with my grip. EDIT: the reason I say this last bit is because quite often you'll see a strongman gym running a grip comp and the podium is full of outdoorsy, racing snake-types who obviously do climbing and smoke all the big guys. Normally looks like they've pulled three randoms out of Tebay services.
There's sooo much stuff out there for training grip but a lot of it is specialist and/or expensive. I think for that particular type of grip strength, hangs are good, you could do them weighted. I think sets of e.g. 30 secs is better than one max. hang. Deadlifts don't last 3 minutes. You could get some fat grips which are cheap and can be incorporated into normal exercises such as curls. Heavy farmers walks/carries. Behind the back barbell holds are good (behind the back so you don't cheat and rest the bar on your thighs). You could get some grippers (the squeezy things), they're cheap. Some grip balls for an alternative hang/pull-up. Towel curls. After that you're into expensive and specialist stuff like Saxon bars and rolling handles etc.
Hmm, what else? Plate pinches but that's a slightly different type of grip although there's obviously crossover. Constant tension deadlifts?
I've actually considered taking up bouldering so help with my grip. EDIT: the reason I say this last bit is because quite often you'll see a strongman gym running a grip comp and the podium is full of outdoorsy, racing snake-types who obviously do climbing and smoke all the big guys. Normally looks like they've pulled three randoms out of Tebay services.
Edited by horsemeatscandal on Sunday 25th January 18:49
MaxFromage said:
As I mentioned a while back, I'm very new to deadlifts.
The issue I have is that I'm naturally (and from other exercises) strong posterior chain wise. My issue is grip.
I can hang for ages (though I'm only giving my hands 73kg to deal with) and do other stuff, but I'm struggling with standard grip on the deadlift and the rest of me is finding it easy.
So, what's my best way forward? Grips/straps/other exercises etc? I have some 100kg hand grips somewhere, but maybe I need to work them some other way. Feels quite different from hangs for me.
Hangs with fingers only; then full grip. Use added weights to train it tooThe issue I have is that I'm naturally (and from other exercises) strong posterior chain wise. My issue is grip.
I can hang for ages (though I'm only giving my hands 73kg to deal with) and do other stuff, but I'm struggling with standard grip on the deadlift and the rest of me is finding it easy.
So, what's my best way forward? Grips/straps/other exercises etc? I have some 100kg hand grips somewhere, but maybe I need to work them some other way. Feels quite different from hangs for me.
Lat pull downs, low pulley rows using finger-grip only. Leave the thumbs on the shelf
Plate pinches (ie x2 10kg plates, smooth sides out) and pick them up single handed; if that's a struggle, use x2 15s and use both hands
Standing forearm curls (stand with a bar in your hands; let your fingers extend more or less fully, slowly, and let the bar roll down to your finger tips, and then roll the bar back up with your fingers until your hands are closed); do this on an oly bar ideally and add weight as you go
Captains of Crush work really well; start with the Trainer and 0.5 and go from there: CoC Trainer - https://www.amazon.co.uk/IronMind-Captains-Crush-g...
Dumbbell pick ups by the globe / end (ie pinch grip one end of the dumbbell and pick it up and either hold it, or do reps); the imbalance works your grip well; pinch grip as well as full grip
Deadlifts themselves work grip too; learn to deadlift with just 2 fingers grip only (obviously weight will be lighter); add weight until it's too heavy; then move to 3 fingers and upwards from there
And also learn to hook grip; it's uncomfortable at first on the thumbs; but once you've got it drilled in, it's the strongest grip going
Had a bit of man flu over the weekend so no training...Annoyingly, I felt perfectly fine but my nose wouldn't stop running so decided to spare the other gym goers.
So aside from getting my steps in it's been pretty chilled.
Gave me a chance to properly look at my training program and timetable as I increase my BJJ sessions as of this week.
Back in tonight for an upper....Ready to hustle.
Hope you all had a good weekend.
So aside from getting my steps in it's been pretty chilled.
Gave me a chance to properly look at my training program and timetable as I increase my BJJ sessions as of this week.
Back in tonight for an upper....Ready to hustle.
Hope you all had a good weekend.
horsemeatscandal said:
Uh oh...
There's sooo much stuff out there for training grip but a lot of it is specialist and/or expensive. I think for that particular type of grip strength, hangs are good, you could do them weighted. I think sets of e.g. 30 secs is better than one max. hang. Deadlifts don't last 3 minutes. You could get some fat grips which are cheap and can be incorporated into normal exercises such as curls. Heavy farmers walks/carries. Behind the back barbell holds are good (behind the back so you don't cheat and rest the bar on your thighs). You could get some grippers (the squeezy things), they're cheap. Some grip balls for an alternative hang/pull-up. Towel curls. After that you're into expensive and specialist stuff like Saxon bars and rolling handles etc.
Hmm, what else? Plate pinches but that's a slightly different type of grip although there's obviously crossover. Constant tension deadlifts?
I've actually considered taking up bouldering so help with my grip. EDIT: the reason I say this last bit is because quite often you'll see a strongman gym running a grip comp and the podium is full of outdoorsy, racing snake-types who obviously do climbing and smoke all the big guys. Normally looks like they've pulled three randoms out of Tebay services.
There's sooo much stuff out there for training grip but a lot of it is specialist and/or expensive. I think for that particular type of grip strength, hangs are good, you could do them weighted. I think sets of e.g. 30 secs is better than one max. hang. Deadlifts don't last 3 minutes. You could get some fat grips which are cheap and can be incorporated into normal exercises such as curls. Heavy farmers walks/carries. Behind the back barbell holds are good (behind the back so you don't cheat and rest the bar on your thighs). You could get some grippers (the squeezy things), they're cheap. Some grip balls for an alternative hang/pull-up. Towel curls. After that you're into expensive and specialist stuff like Saxon bars and rolling handles etc.
Hmm, what else? Plate pinches but that's a slightly different type of grip although there's obviously crossover. Constant tension deadlifts?
I've actually considered taking up bouldering so help with my grip. EDIT: the reason I say this last bit is because quite often you'll see a strongman gym running a grip comp and the podium is full of outdoorsy, racing snake-types who obviously do climbing and smoke all the big guys. Normally looks like they've pulled three randoms out of Tebay services.
Edited by horsemeatscandal on Sunday 25th January 18:49
danb79 said:
Hangs with fingers only; then full grip. Use added weights to train it too
Lat pull downs, low pulley rows using finger-grip only. Leave the thumbs on the shelf
Plate pinches (ie x2 10kg plates, smooth sides out) and pick them up single handed; if that's a struggle, use x2 15s and use both hands
Standing forearm curls (stand with a bar in your hands; let your fingers extend more or less fully, slowly, and let the bar roll down to your finger tips, and then roll the bar back up with your fingers until your hands are closed); do this on an oly bar ideally and add weight as you go
Captains of Crush work really well; start with the Trainer and 0.5 and go from there: CoC Trainer - https://www.amazon.co.uk/IronMind-Captains-Crush-g...
Dumbbell pick ups by the globe / end (ie pinch grip one end of the dumbbell and pick it up and either hold it, or do reps); the imbalance works your grip well; pinch grip as well as full grip
Deadlifts themselves work grip too; learn to deadlift with just 2 fingers grip only (obviously weight will be lighter); add weight until it's too heavy; then move to 3 fingers and upwards from there
And also learn to hook grip; it's uncomfortable at first on the thumbs; but once you've got it drilled in, it's the strongest grip going
Thanks both, that's a great help.Lat pull downs, low pulley rows using finger-grip only. Leave the thumbs on the shelf
Plate pinches (ie x2 10kg plates, smooth sides out) and pick them up single handed; if that's a struggle, use x2 15s and use both hands
Standing forearm curls (stand with a bar in your hands; let your fingers extend more or less fully, slowly, and let the bar roll down to your finger tips, and then roll the bar back up with your fingers until your hands are closed); do this on an oly bar ideally and add weight as you go
Captains of Crush work really well; start with the Trainer and 0.5 and go from there: CoC Trainer - https://www.amazon.co.uk/IronMind-Captains-Crush-g...
Dumbbell pick ups by the globe / end (ie pinch grip one end of the dumbbell and pick it up and either hold it, or do reps); the imbalance works your grip well; pinch grip as well as full grip
Deadlifts themselves work grip too; learn to deadlift with just 2 fingers grip only (obviously weight will be lighter); add weight until it's too heavy; then move to 3 fingers and upwards from there
And also learn to hook grip; it's uncomfortable at first on the thumbs; but once you've got it drilled in, it's the strongest grip going
Thinking about it, I have always been disappointed with my fingertip grip. Forearm strength to a degree too. Whereas add the thumb in and I'm flying.
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