What training are you doing/have you done today? (Vol.3)
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popeyewhite said:
Possibly not the best idea doing deads then pullups, as you've found... .
I could certainly re-program the pull-up workout, but I have to be honest, I could be box-fresh and probably only get 11, little legs windmilling and pedalling to get my chin over the bar! I'm just st at them!Smitters said:
popeyewhite said:
Possibly not the best idea doing deads then pullups, as you've found... .
I could certainly re-program the pull-up workout, but I have to be honest, I could be box-fresh and probably only get 11, little legs windmilling and pedalling to get my chin over the bar! I'm just st at them!Deads have more of an impact on rowing motions, mostly via lower back fatigue, so I program most of my horizontal/row pulling on a separate day to them. But on deadlift day, I do all my vertical pulling.
Yep
I do the same.
No reason not to do pullups after deadlifts. Actually, if anything, doing them after deadlifts will get you working a bit harder, and get you better at them, but pullups are very lat dominant, deadlifts aren't. The only real sticking point could potentially be grip fatigue, depending on what one's grip strength is like.
I do the same.
No reason not to do pullups after deadlifts. Actually, if anything, doing them after deadlifts will get you working a bit harder, and get you better at them, but pullups are very lat dominant, deadlifts aren't. The only real sticking point could potentially be grip fatigue, depending on what one's grip strength is like.
TheJimi said:
The only real sticking point could potentially be grip fatigue...
Nail/head. Especially for a beginner.As both are a pulling exercise and use similar muscle groups (lats) i'd also leave a decent gap between training the two. Having said that nothing wrong with mixing things up a bit once you know what you're doing IMO.
I know this isn't training related but i thought it best to ask here..
protein shakes.. what flavours do you guys use?
I have always bought/used unflavoured whey, sometimes with water, sometimes with milk. But on those occasions when i'm actually sipping on it (and not chugging it down) I want it to taste of something. Up until now I've used the nesquik milshake powders..but I'm getting pretty bored of the standard strawberry, banana and chocolate flavours. Any suggestions for alternatives? Are the flavour drops you can order from places like myprotein any good?
protein shakes.. what flavours do you guys use?
I have always bought/used unflavoured whey, sometimes with water, sometimes with milk. But on those occasions when i'm actually sipping on it (and not chugging it down) I want it to taste of something. Up until now I've used the nesquik milshake powders..but I'm getting pretty bored of the standard strawberry, banana and chocolate flavours. Any suggestions for alternatives? Are the flavour drops you can order from places like myprotein any good?
popeyewhite said:
Nail/head. Especially for a beginner.
As both are a pulling exercise and use similar muscle groups (lats) i'd also leave a decent gap between training the two. Having said that nothing wrong with mixing things up a bit once you know what you're doing IMO.
Well, I took your advice anyway and I did 12, then 16 AMRAP over 6 minutes. Not quite as st, but still very, very st. Grip is fine, I'm not creeping off the bar when pulling up - it's a raw strength issue, mainly in the lats. Cheers for the advice. If we ignore the actual numbers, that's over 50% rep increase... cough cough.As both are a pulling exercise and use similar muscle groups (lats) i'd also leave a decent gap between training the two. Having said that nothing wrong with mixing things up a bit once you know what you're doing IMO.
ORD said:
To the guy worrying about pull ups, I don’t think a set of 11 when fresh is bad at all.
I think I can probably only do 16 clean reps, and my back is reasonably strong (trap bar dead of 220k; barbell around 190kg).
I must of done thousands of pullups over the years. They are one of my favourites but I can still only just about get 12 on a good day on a set of rings. Don't know about a bar as I haven't tried in years because it sets off my elbow pain. I'd say 10 or above is decent. I think I can probably only do 16 clean reps, and my back is reasonably strong (trap bar dead of 220k; barbell around 190kg).
Edited by TheThing on Tuesday 6th July 20:59
ORD said:
To the guy worrying about pull ups, I don’t think a set of 11 when fresh is bad at all.
I think I can probably only do 16 clean reps, and my back is reasonably strong (trap bar dead of 220k; barbell around 190kg).
I think I can probably only do 16 clean reps, and my back is reasonably strong (trap bar dead of 220k; barbell around 190kg).
I think he'd be surprised how the pull-up ability (or lackthereof) of the average gym rat.
In the general, untrained population, the average is probably something like three pullups, if that.
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