Dental problems again

[PostHeads123]

Any dentists in the house ? I have a dull uncomfortable feeling on left side of mouth started last Wednesday, its not unbearable but you cant forget it, I was also getting a pain on the left side of my throat when swallowing, it doesn't seem to be getting any worse, its feels like its swollen but it doesn't look like it I'm not having to take any pain killers but its doing my head in and making me miserable.

I went to dentist on Saturday, they did x-ray and there was nothing obvious they tapped each tooth on that side and got no pain they couldn't see anything obvious. The only thing they though was on my last tooth at the bottom back has a huge filling in and the nerve is very close to the filling and that could be the issue and the nerve is dying they suggested a root canal and crown, all private so we are talking £450 for canal and £600 for the crown which is a lot. I'm worried that I could end up spending all this £ (which is a lot to me) and still not sort the issue so wondered if anyone else had similar and what was it ? Annoying thing is they only do root canals on a Friday so got to wait till them. They gave me antib's which I started on Sat just in case there was some infection but feels no different apart from Antibs making me feel sick and Im on day 3 of the tablets.

[Bullet-Proof_Biscuit]

Yep root canal.

[PostHeads123]

I cant wait till Friday so going in tomorrow, the receptionist said they can open the tooth up, clean it up and remove the root then, then I need to come back on the Friday for the root canal. I though removing the root was root canal ? What worries me is this going to cost me £1200 with crown, when an implant is say 2.2k, anyone trained in this area what would they recommend as I know root canals can fail, this is a molar tooth, if you were m would you spend the £1200 or just cut your loses have it pulled and go for an implant ?

F**king teeth, all my other teeth are fine but I have 2 that had fillings years ago and over time they cost me a fortune, fillings become root canals, root canals then need crowns.

Edited by PostHeads123 on Monday 15th October 13:33

[CrgT16]

Yes can be 2 stages. Root canal is removing all organic tissue from the tooth and it’s canals (in the roots) disinfecting them and then filling them in an hermetic way to prevent further infection. Hence why it’s called sometimes root filling. Your dentist sounds to be sensible on the advice.

[Rollin]

Root Canal Treatment procedure....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AATnG9BdIMg

[PostHeads123]

So I went yesterday and again and the x-rays showing nothing and tapping on teeth no obvious pain, my cheek is swollen though and hurts one side to swallow sometimes. Dentist didn't want to open a tooth and start root canal in case it was the wrong tooth so left it and going back on Friday. I've been on antibiotics since Saturday and today it feels a bit better so may be an infection though x-rays show nothing. I've had the same thing 3 x in last 12 months usually goes after a few days but this time its been the worst, it feels like an infection, I was very unwell Mon and Tuesday with it. I'm at a lose now what to do may be its not dental, may be its my sinus but I've not had a cold. In the area it feels tender I had a dental implant 12 years ago may its that playing up, dentist mentioned CT scan to check that. Can implants get infected somehow may be in the gum around the post ? Should a dentist be able to easily remove the crown off an implant ?

Really at a lose now what my next steps should be, may its not dental issue at all, its really getting me down.

Edited by PostHeads123 on Wednesday 17th October 12:09

[coldsnap]

You have my sympathies.

I had a problem with 3 teeth recently and all I can say is that it was hell, I ended up with one tooth filled, one root canal and a wisdom tooth being removed. All I would say is that if the tooth causing the issue is at the back, then consider to just get it pulled. I lost faith in my Dentist and went somewhere else, if you are not happy then get a second opinion as some Dental Practices will have better x-ray machines and dentists than others.

Teeth issues rarely go away on there own, I hope you get it sorted.

[Patch1875]

I had root canal a few months ago . Recently been feeling a bit discomfort around the area so went back. They did an X-ray and thought there may be a tiny bit infection under the tooth they gave me a few days antibiotics and I’ve to go back in a few weeks.

Basically the options they gave me were if it don’t get better.

Take the tooth out.
Refered to a specialist to redo the root canal £800.
Implant at 2k.

Does feel a bit better just now just seem to notice it ever now and then.

[PostHeads123]

I'm day 6 on antib's still no right I'm back at dentist tomorrow, I trust this dentist been with him a long time, the other times I had the issue I did go to another 2 local dentists to get an opinion and again couldn't see anything. The discomfort has now localised to a top set of teeth on left side 1 is implant, 1 already had a root canal years back and a big filling, dentist say I should feel no pain from either of them I don't really its discomfort its like my cheek is numb or there is pressure under the tooth in the cheek its really weird as xrays show nothing wrong. I'm starting to think its my implant its about 10 years old now, may be the jaw bone receded too much or something going on around the post but only CT scan will show that, I think having an implant out including post would have to be a hospital job as I cant see a dentist being able to remove a screwed in implant post that bone has grafted to that's been there for 10 years ?

Edited by PostHeads123 on Thursday 18th October 11:38

[Jockman]

Like many, I use a dentist in Turkey.

If price is a primary concern then maybe something to consider.

[Crasher242]

PostHeads123 said:

I'm day 6 on antib's still no right I'm back at dentist tomorrow, I trust this dentist been with him a long time, the other times I had the issue I did go to another 2 local dentists to get an opinion and again couldn't see anything. The discomfort has now localised to a top set of teeth on left side 1 is implant, 1 already had a root canal years back and a big filling, dentist say I should feel no pain from either of them I don't really its discomfort its like my cheek is numb or there is pressure under the tooth in the cheek its really weird as xrays show nothing wrong. I'm starting to think its my implant its about 10 years old now, may be the jaw bone receded too much or something going on around the post but only CT scan will show that, I think having an implant out including post would have to be a hospital job as I cant see a dentist being able to remove a screwed in implant post that bone has grafted to that's been there for 10 years ?

Edited by PostHeads123 on Thursday 18th October 11:38

Late to the party...But was it just a typical dentist X-Ray (i.e. stick a small card in-between your teeth, point the machine and scarper whilst it x-rays)?
My dentist does a yearly full lower skull x-ray, that does a 180 (or more) scan round the lower skull taking in the whole jaw etc. Last year it picked up a dark patch at the base of the left-hand-side of my jaw, underneath a really old (i.e 20+ years) root canal. Turned out to be bone decay caused by infection - had to have it treated to prevent it from spreading further afield in the jaw - just thinking if a regular x-ray hasnt picked anything up whether something like this might?

[PostHeads123]

Crasher242 said:

PostHeads123 said:

I'm day 6 on antib's still no right I'm back at dentist tomorrow, I trust this dentist been with him a long time, the other times I had the issue I did go to another 2 local dentists to get an opinion and again couldn't see anything. The discomfort has now localised to a top set of teeth on left side 1 is implant, 1 already had a root canal years back and a big filling, dentist say I should feel no pain from either of them I don't really its discomfort its like my cheek is numb or there is pressure under the tooth in the cheek its really weird as xrays show nothing wrong. I'm starting to think its my implant its about 10 years old now, may be the jaw bone receded too much or something going on around the post but only CT scan will show that, I think having an implant out including post would have to be a hospital job as I cant see a dentist being able to remove a screwed in implant post that bone has grafted to that's been there for 10 years ?

Edited by PostHeads123 on Thursday 18th October 11:38

Late to the party...But was it just a typical dentist X-Ray (i.e. stick a small card in-between your teeth, point the machine and scarper whilst it x-rays)?
My dentist does a yearly full lower skull x-ray, that does a 180 (or more) scan round the lower skull taking in the whole jaw etc. Last year it picked up a dark patch at the base of the left-hand-side of my jaw, underneath a really old (i.e 20+ years) root canal. Turned out to be bone decay caused by infection - had to have it treated to prevent it from spreading further afield in the jaw - just thinking if a regular x-ray hasnt picked anything up whether something like this might?

Yeah just standard x-ray, I was looking into the 3D dental scan and a few places do it near me but want a referral from own dentist first so that's next port of call, I'm back at dentist tomorrow so will get referral then. The feeling I get from it isn't sharp pain the left cheek just feels numb and swollen and it radiating from above the implant, the fact its not sharp pain makes me think its not a root issue so points the figure at the implant or the tooth next to it that has a root canal already but xray last time showed nothing for that tooth. If I rub my tongue on the implant crown the discomfort builds so its got to be the implant, I spoke to a dental implant place today and they said removal of the post could be done easily so luckily not a hospital job.

[rolex]

PostHeads123 said:

So I went yesterday and again and the x-rays showing nothing and tapping on teeth no obvious pain, my cheek is swollen though and hurts one side to swallow sometimes. Dentist didn't want to open a tooth and start root canal in case it was the wrong tooth so left it and going back on Friday. I've been on antibiotics since Saturday and today it feels a bit better so may be an infection though x-rays show nothing. I've had the same thing 3 x in last 12 months usually goes after a few days but this time its been the worst, it feels like an infection, I was very unwell Mon and Tuesday with it. I'm at a lose now what to do may be its not dental, may be its my sinus but I've not had a cold. In the area it feels tender I had a dental implant 12 years ago may its that playing up, dentist mentioned CT scan to check that. Can implants get infected somehow may be in the gum around the post ? Should a dentist be able to easily remove the crown off an implant ?

Really at a lose now what my next steps should be, may its not dental issue at all, its really getting me down.

Edited by PostHeads123 on Wednesday 17th October 12:09

Did the dentist mention Peri-implant disease? Maybe worth a Google.

[PostHeads123]

rolex said:

Did the dentist mention Peri-implant disease? Maybe worth a Google.

No but I mentioned it and was they kind of dismissed it. Its no better after weeks worth of antib's, nearly 2 weeks now its been going on, xrays show nothing, only get some relief taking neurofen. I managed to track down the dentist who fitted the implant 9 yrs ago so going to see him on Thurs he has CT scanner and my old records / xrays so should get better idea of what it is. Doing my head in now cant focus at work or home.

Edited by PostHeads123 on Monday 22 October 21:25

[MentalSarcasm]

Before going back to the dentist I'd try going to a GP. My Mum had severe toothache a few years ago, to the point of having a tooth taken out as she was convinced there was something wrong, dentist thought it might be a hairline crack but like you, x-rays showed nothing. Pain moved to the next tooth so dentist told her it couldn't be her teeth. Turned out she had arthritis in her jaw, several anti-inflammatories later she felt a lot better.

Personally I find I get a lot of discomfort on the left side of my face, just above my teeth, when I've got a cold coming on, as it tends to irritate my sinuses. Almost always on the left side only though, right side tends to be okay.

[PostHeads123]

MentalSarcasm said:

Before going back to the dentist I'd try going to a GP. My Mum had severe toothache a few years ago, to the point of having a tooth taken out as she was convinced there was something wrong, dentist thought it might be a hairline crack but like you, x-rays showed nothing. Pain moved to the next tooth so dentist told her it couldn't be her teeth. Turned out she had arthritis in her jaw, several anti-inflammatories later she felt a lot better.

Personally I find I get a lot of discomfort on the left side of my face, just above my teeth, when I've got a cold coming on, as it tends to irritate my sinuses. Almost always on the left side only though, right side tends to be okay.

Thanks yeah I'm going to doctors as well 9am tomorrow so before the implant person on Thurs so got all bases covered, what your mum had does sound similar as I am now at the point I would happily have teeth pulled / implant removed to try resolve it. The issue I am having is on my left side / upper as well but sometimes feels like left side bottom, its not really pain but it feels swollen / sore, I don't have a cold at moment. My jaw does click when I eat lots of people over the years have told me that though I never notice it. Fingers crossed I get this sorted as its making me a very grumpy sod at the moment

Edited by PostHeads123 on Tuesday 23 October 12:24

[PostHeads123]

Saw guy who fitted implant today didnt need 3d ct as there xray machine much better. Turns out I do I have peri-implantitus basically infection around the implant but hard to treat as the bacteria lives in the ridges of the implant thread. Treatment is open up the gum a user a laser to kill off bacteria not cheap £850 if that fails remove implant. I wouldn't have another implant after this, I got 10 years out of so cant complain too much but when things start to go wrong with them its a painful / expensive to fix and your regular dentist cant sort so you have to go an implant person. Implants you need to really keep cleaner than real teeth. My issues are from when I was late teens didnt look after my teeth enough, now paying the price.

Another annoying thing is the dentist today said I needed 2 x fillings as well, one was in a tooth that my normal dentist xray last week, they said tooth was fine. Got them to recheck xrays from last week and they agreed needs some work.. may be time for new dentist

Edited by PostHeads123 on Thursday 25th October 18:27

[PostHeads123]

Well the cleaning of implant didn't work at all infact it got worse and Ive lost alot of feeling in left side of face also alot of sickness now it comes and goes Ive lost faith in the guy who fitted implant he doesn't seem to care. I went to see a facial maxmillory consultant this week and had CT, MRI and OPG scans done will know the results next Tues. I want the implant out now for sure as I cant go on like this and just want to remove all possibilities of cause. Can anyone recommend an experienced implant person particularly for removals London / Herts ? I'm nervous this thing been in there 10 yrs and looks well fused to the jaw bone, it's threaded but I guess it will be stuck ? Any one else had one removed how was it ? Xray below

[TheAngryDog]

Sorry I cannot help OP, but after a recent bout of toothache I wish you all the best with getting this sorted and being pain free.

[PostHeads123]

TheAngryDog said:

Sorry I cannot help OP, but after a recent bout of toothache I wish you all the best with getting this sorted and being pain free.

Thanks its just the worst thing I've had it on and off now for nearly 3 months, pain killers don't touch it, I just about function but its pushing mental health to the max, I just look forward to going to bed at night so I can 'hopefully' fall a sleep and get a break from it. Combined with the fact it always feel like these implant specialist's are keen to sell sell to you undermines my whole confidence in it, hence ideally a recommendation of one who is not so focused on the £ side of thing is what I'm after, I don't mind paying but a lot of time I feel there main focus is not me but the cash. Not saying implants are bad might work for some but if people are thinking about them think long term eg 10 years plus, as when things go wrong its hard to sort. A lot of implant people wont touch implants fitted by others as well as least I had my done in the UK so can go back to the original guy quickly if I had to.

Edited by PostHeads123 on Friday 14th December 12:43