RE: BMW M4 CS (F82) meets BMW M3 CS (E46)

RE: BMW M4 CS (F82) meets BMW M3 CS (E46)

Monday 22nd April 2019

BMW M4 CS (F82) meets BMW M3 CS (E46)

Why the CS is the best an M can get, then and now



The reminder the F82 M4 is always ready to bite comes as a rude shock, even for someone with experience of 12,000 miles in one. Mid-conversation with snapper Sim I pick up quarter throttle in fourth out of a mild-looking kink, opting to ride the new-age turbocharged torque. But my coasting approach means the turbos have gone off the boil and, because of the tall gear, they spool up with an abrupt chuff of boost that immediately overwhelms the tenuous grip of cold Cup 2s on damp tarmac.

But that's OK, because we're chilling with everything in Comfort and the stability control very much on. Hang on, it's not okay after all. Spidey senses told me something was coming but the DSC is caught napping and the urgent, arm-twirling intervention is all mine. I front it out but my grip on the fat Alcantara wheel has tightened just a tad.


This is what happens when you're mooching in an M4 CS in the most relaxed of its many modes? Yup. And this unapologetic nature is why I love it so and consider it the best M of the modern age. Perhaps the best there ever will be. A controversial theory I'm on my way to test against what many consider to be a high-water mark in M3 history.

Is there a more PistonHeads car than an E46 M3? I can't think of one, the CS with its garnish of CSL arguably both peak M3 and peak PH. It's the right vintage and value, straddles the 'digital/analogue' divide and sits bang in the middle of discussions about appropriate size and performance for the public road. It's also a benchmark for classifieds speculators and the argument concerning SMG versus manual will never be resolved. It's basically forum gold.

In both E46 and F82 the CS versions represent best-of compilations for the fanboys. The CSL is rightly celebrated for its hardcore cred and gifts a couple of slight but important upgrades to the CS, while a dusting of GTS attitude without the daft price or practical compromises is enough to elevate the M4 version. As you'd hope, given the £2,400 premium charged in the E46 era has increased more than tenfold, meaning the CS costs nearly £27,000 more than an equivalent DCT-equipped M4.


After some generous last-minute match-making from the BMW Car Club we meet our E46 and its proud owner at the base of a well-known triangle of roads in North Wales. Now sufficiently well-known that the western side is freshly punctuated by boot-cooling average speed cameras. What was that about appropriate performance for modern roads?

Alongside the vein-popping aggression of the M4 the M3 looks dinky. Or, to put it another way, spot on. The E46 always was a handsome car but the M3's stance, and the way the CSL-inspired 19s fill out the flared arches, are finger-kiss perfection. It's the same inside too, the simplicity of the interior tastefully complemented by the odd flash of M branding and a plain, fat-rimmed Alcantara wheel. The close-fitting proportions, manageable on-road footprint and excellent visibility all inspire confidence too. This one's an SMG, the stubby selector 'correctly' configured with back for up and forward for down, its mode switch tailoring shift feel from head-nodding lethargy to driveshaft shredding ferocity as required.


It even looks cool under the bonnet, the slanted-over S54 motor squeezed tightly between firewall, radiator and strutbrace. Everything screams 'proper', the only possible exception being the rather puny looking brakes. OK, the CS got the CSL's bigger rotors but they're still small by modern standards and reveal a lesson BMW only really learned in recent times. Enough gawping, though - time to get on the road.

You know that thing when you ride in a car considered stiff back in the day but, by modern standards, now seems as taut as a 2CV? The E46 CS isn't that car, this sub-60,000 miles example resolutely squeak and rattle free and just the right side of punchy on a road like this. The faster CSL steering rack (14.5:1 rather than 15.4:1) is one of the CS's signature upgrades but it still feels low-geared for modern tastes, albeit with meaningful weight and more natural response than the M4's. Again, it's just... right.


And that engine. M cars have had various cylinder counts and configurations but there's surely no finer thing than a revvy, naturally-aspirated BMW six sucking through throttle bodies. At low revs it's smooth and muscular; as they rise it gets more metallic and steadily angrier. And by the time you're closing on 8,000rpm you're ready to sell your soul to the gods of Bayerische Motoren Werke for one more hit. It needs commitment to hold it there but, as with the M4, I'll argue the case these engines actually work better with two pedals and paddles than they do typically long-winded BMW manuals. I know, shoot me for saying so and all that, especially given the 'CSL with a manual option' has long been the CS's USP. But I'd take an SMG over a manual in the E46 much as I would DCT in the new one. It's not perfect but it's got character and requires application to extract its best. That to me makes it worthy.

Thankfully the tarmac has dried a little by the time I swap back to the M4 and I'm able to appreciate its talents. It feels big, outside wheels slapping cats' eyes as I thread it between dry stone walls before the road opens out into the faster top section. As was, before the addition of the new roadside furniture at least.


The CS has some obvious visual additions over that Austin Yellow M4 I ran as a long-termer, these include the GTS's vented carbon bonnet, carbon Gurney flaps and some utterly gorgeous forged wheels. Inside, door cards made of 'compacted natural fibres' with looped fabric pulls, seat cut-outs and lashings of Alcantara live the 'because track car' dream without actually compromising on creature comforts or practicality. The slash cut exhaust tips also look great and the noise coming out of them is much more authentic. Oh, and another 10hp and 36lb ft is a nice little bonus over the Competition Package version too.

But it's the dynamic changes that really shine through. Picking up from the Competition Pack, the CS has further detail improvements contributing to a significant overall advantage. Admittedly, the confusing range of configurability still leaves you wondering if you'd be having more fun if you'd set the dampers to this or the steering to that. Programming one of your M hot keys to Sport for everything and MDM DSC would be my pro tip after trying every possible combination.


Where the CS really comes together is in those part-throttle, fast-corner-over-a-bump situations I'd have backed out of in my M4 long-termer. Underdamped in Comfort, jittery in Sport and worse in Sport Plus that car was a handful on anything but smooth surfaces, constantly fluctuating contact pressure on the rear tyres and binary boost igniting a blaze of orange DSC light any time you were on it. For all that I still loved it, mind.

There's still a sense of that wildness but the CS is much more resolved, especially as the road dries. The Cup tyres give more weight and authority to the steering and an even sharper front end. And the throttle, stability control and diff all work together, subtly feathering power delivery for maximum traction and pushing the CS hard into the turns as the diff meters the torque across the rear axle. When it goes right you even get an anti-lag style crackle as the clever boost management keeps the turbos spooled while DSC trims just enough throttle to hold the line. Even the damping is now on your side, maintaining consistent tyre contact, even over harsh bumps. This is now an M4 you can really, really lean on and trust, the more so if you keep it high in the rev range where the boost is more consistent and the throttle response nice and linear.


Driving it like this demands you really apply yourself though. Your palms will get sweaty. And you'll be travelling very, very fast indeed. But where most fast road cars reach a natural limit the CS just keeps egging you on, promising more of everything if you'll only commit. There are plenty of big horsepower BMWs with M badges these days. But this is the one the M guys really nailed their colours to.

It's a fast and savage car that'll chew you up and spit out the bits if you're not up to the challenge. And for that reason, I think it's more than a swansong to the F82 - it's a swansong to cars of this type, executed with a defiant raised digit to ideas of restraint and responsibility. Quite simply it's the best M4 we'll ever get. And its M3 equivalent arguably the best we ever had. In both cases it's CS for the win.


SPECIFICATION - BMW M3 CS (E46)

Engine: 3,246cc 6-cyl
Transmission: 6-speed manual/6-speed automated manual (SMG II)
Power (hp): 343@7,900rpm
Torque (lb ft): 269@4,900rpm
0-62mph: 5.2sec
Top speed: 155mph (limited)
Weight: 1,570kg
MPG: 23.7 (NEDC combined)
CO2: 287g/km
Price: £51,440 (new) c. £20,000-up

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SPECIFICATION - BMW M4 CS (F82)

Engine: 2,979cc 6-cyl twin-turbo
Transmission: 7-speed M DCT dual-clutch auto, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 460@6,250rpm
Torque (lb ft): 442@4,000-5,380rpm
0-62mph: 3.9sec
Top speed: 174mph (limited)
Weight: 1,655kg (EU with 75kg driver)
MPG: 33.6mpg (combined)
CO2: 197g/km
Price: £89,070 (£96,120 as tested, comprising Lime Rock Grey paint £2,600; Reversing Assist Camera £330; Sun Protection Glass £320; BMW Icon Adaptive LED headlights £1,200; BMW M Head-up Display £825; Apple CarPlay preparation £235; Online Entertainment £160; M Alcantara steering wheel £375; speed limit display £220; delivery and registration £785)

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With thanks to the BMW Car Club and owner Tim Astrop

Photos: Sim Mainey

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Discussion

2 GKC

Original Poster:

1,896 posts

105 months

Sunday 21st April 2019
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Had to look twice at the price of that M4. £96k! It's just not special enough at that money

GTEYE

2,096 posts

210 months

Sunday 21st April 2019
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I’m loving the look of the M4 CS in that colour but it’s hard to avoid mentioning the price - nearly 100 large - wow that’s not a great buy!

And still charges extra for sun protection glass and CarPlay .... at this price level...

justa1972

303 posts

137 months

Sunday 21st April 2019
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Agreed that’s a crazy price !!!!

Colinv6

100 posts

93 months

Sunday 21st April 2019
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I’ve had mine for 7 months now, previous F80 comp and F80 non comp before that.

It’s absolutely wonderful, it’s a HUGE step up in dynamics from the comp, which always left me a bit disappointed and I actually preferred my 2015 standard one.

Forget the £100k pricing, nobody has ever paid that. You can get 1200 mile ceramic braked cars for £60k now.

big_rob_sydney

3,401 posts

194 months

Sunday 21st April 2019
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Started reading, but got caught up in the mindless blah blah. Sorry.

Conclusion reads to me as an expensive bmw, and is this the CS instead of the CSL in the early one? I don't know where you get the idea these cars are "forum gold." There are plenty of talked about cars.

Whatevs.

The price on the later car is a joke. As a poster has mentioned, they're a lot cheaper. And there's a reason for that...

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Sunday 21st April 2019
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That steering ratio seems very odd

14.1 is more like compression ratio whereas it should be around the 2.3 ish lock to lock.

geo1905

87 posts

64 months

Sunday 21st April 2019
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Whilst the earlier M cars were and are magnificent, generally, the latest generation cars are faster, more economical, better connected with tel prep, guidance etc and less polluting than before. As James May said recently "Cars are just better now" And it's hard to argue with that.

Arsecati

2,308 posts

117 months

Sunday 21st April 2019
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Hallelujah - someone willing to talk some sense on the tiresome 'auto/manual' argument and acknowledge that NO, sticking a manual in to absolutely everything does NOT suddenly makes that car the ultimate drivers machine!

MrGeoff

650 posts

172 months

Sunday 21st April 2019
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Arsecati said:
Hallelujah - someone willing to talk some sense on the tiresome 'auto/manual' argument and acknowledge that NO, sticking a manual in to absolutely everything does NOT suddenly makes that car the ultimate drivers machine!
While the SMG box is not perfect I think a lot attack it because they believe the manual is better. Once you take time to actually live with the SMG box it’s great fun and very rewarding, it’s not got the finesse of a modern box but that doesn’t matter, it’s all the better for it.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Sunday 21st April 2019
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MrGeoff said:
While the SMG box is not perfect I think a lot attack it because they believe the manual is better. Once you take time to actually live with the SMG box it’s great fun and very rewarding, it’s not got the finesse of a modern box but that doesn’t matter, it’s all the better for it.
Is it quicker 0-100mph? Than stick shifter?

mackie1

8,153 posts

233 months

Sunday 21st April 2019
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Welshbeef said:
That steering ratio seems very odd

14.1 is more like compression ratio whereas it should be around the 2.3 ish lock to lock.
It’s the ratio between steering shaft input and steering angle at the wheels.

JackReacher

2,126 posts

215 months

Sunday 21st April 2019
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I really dislike how "shouty" M4's look and often sound with fake exhaust noise. Guess that attracts a lot of people though. The e46 M3 in comparison looks classy and subtle. Would have thought an M2 competition or upcoming CS would be a more worthy comparison in size at least to the e46. The M2 also looks much better than the M4.

rare6499

656 posts

139 months

Sunday 21st April 2019
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I would rather have the E46 and change. Just look at it. It’s of if the finest looking cars of the modern era. Everything about it is just...right.

cognac1979

106 posts

101 months

Sunday 21st April 2019
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E46 for me, it just ticks all the right boxes.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 21st April 2019
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I just don’t like the iPad type screen sitting on the top of the dash. Just ruins the look of the cockpit and what BMW used to be great at designing.

Nimerino

295 posts

113 months

Sunday 21st April 2019
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It always seem to me that reviewers endlessly rationalise the damn-near dangerous handling traits of the F82, and the trend seems only to have become more prominent since the release of the CS gave it an aura of being ‘special’. It’s not, it’s a tarted-up marketing exercise. Nothing of genuine worth was transferred from the GTS and the price is a joke.

Being unable to handle the torque through the rear wheels at lateral load on anything other than marble-smooth roads (and the utter unpredictability of the behaviour) aren’t exciting traits, they’re potentially catastrophic. How did we get to the point where the inability to trust a car’s kinematics became a desirable trait? And if the CS is so much better-resolved, given pretty much identical suspension hardware, why didn’t the standard cars receive the same treatment? The answer certainly isn’t £27k worth of anything.

Julian Thompson

2,543 posts

238 months

Sunday 21st April 2019
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Hmmm. Lots to think about - but in the mean time:

I suspect that Cup2 tyres will have meant a geometry change. Moving from the less aggressive tyres that the Comp runs and that (presumably) extra negative camber especially on the front will result in a car that feels quite different.


Cheib

23,237 posts

175 months

Sunday 21st April 2019
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The E46 M3 is an all time great car for me....I am probably biased because I was lucky enough to have a new one back in 2002 but my god it was great. Cars need to be looked at in context to....it was head and shoulders better than the opposition. Current M3/4 does nothing for me....test drove one in 2016...suspensionwas trying was too hard (too hard for B roads and country lanes) but that turbo motor at tick over was just awful. I am sure it’s improved since then but haven’t had the urge to go back.

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

244 months

Sunday 21st April 2019
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Cheib said:
The E46 M3 is an all time great car for me....I am probably biased because I was lucky enough to have a new one back in 2002 but my god it was great. Cars need to be looked at in context to....it was head and shoulders better than the opposition. Current M3/4 does nothing for me....test drove one in 2016...suspensionwas trying was too hard (too hard for B roads and country lanes) but that turbo motor at tick over was just awful. I am sure it’s improved since then but haven’t had the urge to go back.
The steering, suspension and handling (partly because of the former, and partly because of the power delivery) were pretty poor on early cars. It’s improved. But the E46 is a fabulous handling car in comparison.

Shiv_P

2,746 posts

105 months

Sunday 21st April 2019
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Nimerino said:
It always seem to me that reviewers endlessly rationalise the damn-near dangerous handling traits of the F82, and the trend seems only to have become more prominent since the release of the CS gave it an aura of being ‘special’. It’s not, it’s a tarted-up marketing exercise. Nothing of genuine worth was transferred from the GTS and the price is a joke.

Being unable to handle the torque through the rear wheels at lateral load on anything other than marble-smooth roads (and the utter unpredictability of the behaviour) aren’t exciting traits, they’re potentially catastrophic. How did we get to the point where the inability to trust a car’s kinematics became a desirable trait? And if the CS is so much better-resolved, given pretty much identical suspension hardware, why didn’t the standard cars receive the same treatment? The answer certainly isn’t £27k worth of anything.
Yeah but it's a BMW. Ultimate driving machine no audisteer