Starting the Journey..... Another weight loss story....

Starting the Journey..... Another weight loss story....

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ruggedscotty

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1,506 posts

154 months

Thursday 15th August
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Well here I am, at the start of a journey.... I need to lose weight.

Joined slimming world this week and got on those scales, I weigh in at around 25st 6lb.....

I want to weigh 17 stones, so I have to lose 8 stone.... Im 6 foot 4, Yup being tall has helped me to hide the weight but the 50" trousers are an issue.....

So wish me well, its going to be a struggle but its got to be done.

AlexC1981

3,339 posts

162 months

Thursday 15th August
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I'm trying to lose some weight myself at the moment. What's that saying...nothing tastes as good as skinny feels...or something like that smile

Food is just sustenance, it is not for rewards or treats. If you want a treat, find something else you enjoy doing and do that instead.

See if you can keep something to hand that will help keep your mind focussed on the goal. Keep a photo of yourself in your wallet from when you were happy with your weight and take it out and look at it whenever you have a weak moment.

Count your calories. Use a post-it/notepad and a calculator or MyfitnessPal app to record them. It will become easy after a while because you will get to know the calorie content of the foods you eat regularly.

You can sort of eat what you want as long as you don't go over your calorie allowance BUT if you eat sugary and carb laden foods you will find it harder to stick to the calorie allowance because they spike your blood sugar and you will have cravings when you come down. You are going to be doing this for a while, so try to make sure the food you eat is nutritious.

Your meals will seem unsatisfying at first, but the smaller portions will satisfy you when you get used to them. If you want a snack or after dinner treat then a few cubes of 85% dark chocolate is very satisfying.

Good luck!

SlidingSideways

1,273 posts

177 months

Friday 16th August
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AlexC1981 said:
because they spike your blood sugar and you will have cravings when you come down.
They also spike your insulin levels, and the body won't release fat when your insulin is high, it's too busy storing more of it!

Slimming world is good as it essentially cuts all the high GI crap (or Syns as they refer to them) that cause the spikes right down. Lots of whole foods, nice steady blood sugar, low insulin, fat being released to burn. My wife has had lots of success on it, despite me initially scoffing at the whole "eat as much pasta as you like" idea!

Good luck

NoVetec

9,731 posts

118 months

Friday 16th August
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Best wishes, OP. Seen several have results with Slimming World. Like above the low GI stuff is a big help plus some types get on better with the group side of things i.e. competition/comparison.

Are you joining a gym/home stuff/going for walkies? biggrin


TwigtheWonderkid

29,580 posts

95 months

Friday 16th August
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SlidingSideways said:
AlexC1981 said:
because they spike your blood sugar and you will have cravings when you come down.
They also spike your insulin levels, and the body won't release fat when your insulin is high, it's too busy storing more of it!
A table spoon of apple cider vinegar diluted in water, 15 mins before you eat, will solve that issue. Got to be apple cider vinegar, no other kind will work.

OP, tackle the mental side....hunger is your friend. Welcome hunger, it's a sign that you're pushing yourself. Like a stitch whilst running. Try and increase your hunger times before cracking. I'm hungry, and I'm going to stay hungry for 30 mins. Next time, 45 mins. Just build up your periods of hunger like you would distance running. You'll soon be celebrating going 6 hours hungry between sensible meals. 5 hours hungry will be a doddle. Eventually hunger becomes such a part of your life that it becomes normal, and you can be hungry without thinking about it.

And drink loads of ice cold water. Goes in cold, comes out warm. The energy needed to heat that water is burning calories. It's like exercise without doing anything.

ruggedscotty

Original Poster:

1,506 posts

154 months

Tuesday 20th August
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Hunger isn't your friend.... its the crusher that kills it for many.

Go to the dentist, feel the pain, the more pain the better as he is doing something, suck it up and enjoy the pain.....

yeah right....

I want to succeed and not burn with the hunger, need to work on rapid weight loss to get the ball rolling and then keep it going, get that weight down.

Got a target and Im going to get there. work on it pound by pound.

Sporky

275 posts

9 months

Tuesday 20th August
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
And drink loads of ice cold water. Goes in cold, comes out warm. The energy needed to heat that water is burning calories. It's like exercise without doing anything.
The energy taken to warm that water is completely trivial compared to what's in food - from some back-of-envelope sums, a litre of water at 5C would cancel out one unroasted peanut.

All the successful weight loss approaches are based on calorie counting, and accepting that it's not a quick process. If you can up your activity - a stroll at lunchtime maybe - that will certainly help.

Also I'd suggest not cutting out snacks entirely, but being very careful to include them in your calorie counting. That way you avoid feeling that the whole thing is miserable, but you can gradually redefine your relationship with food (with appropriate apologies for the language there!).

omniflow

765 posts

96 months

Tuesday 20th August
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
A table spoon of apple cider vinegar diluted in water, 15 mins before you eat, will solve that issue. Got to be apple cider vinegar, no other kind will work.

OP, tackle the mental side....hunger is your friend. Welcome hunger, it's a sign that you're pushing yourself. Like a stitch whilst running. Try and increase your hunger times before cracking. I'm hungry, and I'm going to stay hungry for 30 mins. Next time, 45 mins. Just build up your periods of hunger like you would distance running. You'll soon be celebrating going 6 hours hungry between sensible meals. 5 hours hungry will be a doddle. Eventually hunger becomes such a part of your life that it becomes normal, and you can be hungry without thinking about it.

And drink loads of ice cold water. Goes in cold, comes out warm. The energy needed to heat that water is burning calories. It's like exercise without doing anything.
fk me - what a hideous, dangerous post. Twig - google Anorexia Nervosa - not just the basics, but the MASSIVE impact it has on sufferers and their families, and then re-think what you've posted. Absolutely STAGGERING.

TwigtheWonderkid

29,580 posts

95 months

Wednesday 21st August
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omniflow said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
A table spoon of apple cider vinegar diluted in water, 15 mins before you eat, will solve that issue. Got to be apple cider vinegar, no other kind will work.

OP, tackle the mental side....hunger is your friend. Welcome hunger, it's a sign that you're pushing yourself. Like a stitch whilst running. Try and increase your hunger times before cracking. I'm hungry, and I'm going to stay hungry for 30 mins. Next time, 45 mins. Just build up your periods of hunger like you would distance running. You'll soon be celebrating going 6 hours hungry between sensible meals. 5 hours hungry will be a doddle. Eventually hunger becomes such a part of your life that it becomes normal, and you can be hungry without thinking about it.

And drink loads of ice cold water. Goes in cold, comes out warm. The energy needed to heat that water is burning calories. It's like exercise without doing anything.
fk me - what a hideous, dangerous post. Twig - google Anorexia Nervosa - not just the basics, but the MASSIVE impact it has on sufferers and their families, and then re-think what you've posted. Absolutely STAGGERING.
I wasn't aware the OP had anorexia. I kind of got the impression he was actually genuinely overweight.

Would you go on a thread about the merits of different types of whisky, and pull someone up for recommending a certain brand by saying "think about the recovering alcoholics before you post.

Get a grip man.

TwigtheWonderkid

29,580 posts

95 months

Wednesday 21st August
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Sporky said:
The energy taken to warm that water is completely trivial compared to what's in food - from some back-of-envelope sums, a litre of water at 5C would cancel out one unroasted peanut.
Urine leaves the body at around 37c. Are you saying a litre of water can be heated from 5 to 37c for the calorific energy equivalent of a peanut?

Moulder

1,207 posts

157 months

Wednesday 21st August
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Good luck!! Remember to keep a pair of those 50" trousers for the after shot.

marksx

3,594 posts

135 months

Wednesday 21st August
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Urine leaves the body at around 37c. Are you saying a litre of water can be heated from 5 to 37c for the calorific energy equivalent of a peanut?
About 32kcal to heat a litre of water 32 degrees.

throt

1,977 posts

115 months

Wednesday 21st August
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Moulder said:
Good luck!! Remember to keep a pair of those 50" trousers for the after shot.
Hahaha, yep, those once snug ( too bloody tight jeans ) trousers really do give you the incentive to carry on when they are getting loser. Your old tight jeans are the ultimate test which is accurate, not a target body weight of a fellow slimming world attendee. We all have different muscle mass, ones weight is not for the other dude.

Sporky

275 posts

9 months

Wednesday 21st August
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marksx said:
About 32kcal to heat a litre of water 32 degrees.
Ah, dang it - that's about 8 peanuts. I should use better quality envelopes for my sums.

TwigtheWonderkid

29,580 posts

95 months

Wednesday 21st August
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Sporky said:
marksx said:
About 32kcal to heat a litre of water 32 degrees.
Ah, dang it - that's about 8 peanuts. I should use better quality envelopes for my sums.
So drink 3 litres in a day, that's 24 peanuts you can have gratis. Or not have them, and use up 96 Kcal doing nowt. Plus the energy used in walking to the tap, getting the ice etc.

It's a winner!!!

For the benefit of not offending Omnifow, please do not eat your 24 peanuts if you have a fatal peanut allergy. rolleyes

Sporky

275 posts

9 months

Wednesday 21st August
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Assuming no issues arising from drinking three litres of iced water a day...

Successfully losing weight isn't about this sort of stunt. It's about settling in for a long period of being more conscious about yourself, shedding the weight gradually, building good habits as you go. All the weird stuff just means you end up putting it back on.

gregs656

3,746 posts

126 months

Wednesday 21st August
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
It's a winner!!!
You are talking nonsense to be honest. The anorexia comment isn't too far off this is the kind of crap that they pull, next you will be telling us how many calories you can burn tapping your foot.

Plenty of people having great success on PH this year, luckily none of them following this kind of complete bunk.

TwigtheWonderkid

29,580 posts

95 months

Wednesday 21st August
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gregs656 said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
It's a winner!!!
You are talking nonsense to be honest. The anorexia comment isn't too far off this is the kind of crap that they pull, next you will be telling us how many calories you can burn tapping your foot.

Plenty of people having great success on PH this year, luckily none of them following this kind of complete bunk.
Well I set out to lose 6 stone at the start of April, to get from 18and a half to 12 and a half stone. I was hopeful I could achieve it in about 18 months. So 4.5 months in, I'm 15'6, so just over half way. Obviously the next 3 stone will take me much longer.

I've achieved this by a holistic approach. Of course, them main thing is making every single day, without exception, a calorie deficit day. Eating less than I use. Every weekday morning before work in the gym, Parkrun and a bike ride on Saturdays, and a 5 mile run on Sundays. Never using lifts, always the stairs. But also, drinking loads of ice cold water, as every calorie counts. And mentally embracing hunger, so I don't see it as the enemy, but as a friend.



funkyrobot

17,659 posts

173 months

Wednesday 21st August
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ruggedscotty said:
Well here I am, at the start of a journey.... I need to lose weight.

Joined slimming world this week and got on those scales, I weigh in at around 25st 6lb.....

I want to weigh 17 stones, so I have to lose 8 stone.... Im 6 foot 4, Yup being tall has helped me to hide the weight but the 50" trousers are an issue.....

So wish me well, its going to be a struggle but its got to be done.
Good luck. smile

I'm 3 stone lighter than I was a couple of years ago. My weight loss is the result of cycling and just cutting out the snacks etc. in-between meals. I haven't been on any faddy diets or paid anyone a penny to help me lose my weight (apart from buying bicycles).

I personally feel that weight loss should be driven by exercise. No good going to a meeting once a week and dieting if you aren't doing some decent cardio in-between. I find that once I get back on the bike (I've had a few gaps with some time off) I'm driven to lose weight again and the better eating habits return.

I'm pretty much the same height as you (6ft 4-5) and I now weigh just over 15 stone. I'm aiming to dip under that and head towards 14 stone soon. Just in holiday mode at the moment so the eating habits are shot. hehe

NoVetec

9,731 posts

118 months

Wednesday 21st August
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Well I set out to lose 6 stone at the start of April, to get from 18and a half to 12 and a half stone. I was hopeful I could achieve it in about 18 months. So 4.5 months in, I'm 15'6, so just over half way. Obviously the next 3 stone will take me much longer.

I've achieved this by a holistic approach. Of course, them main thing is making every single day, without exception, a calorie deficit day. Eating less than I use. Every weekday morning before work in the gym, Parkrun and a bike ride on Saturdays, and a 5 mile run on Sundays. Never using lifts, always the stairs. But also, drinking loads of ice cold water, as every calorie counts. And mentally embracing hunger, so I don't see it as the enemy, but as a friend.
With the feeling the hunger side of things, have you found you feel less hungry overall with exercise and burning fat? I get what you say about the mental side of things. Physically I've found my hunger less ravenous during and after losing a few stone. It's still there, just much more manageable. Believe an increase in insulin sensitivity is the main driver.