ADHD - Adults

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Kermit power

28,642 posts

213 months

Wednesday 8th March 2023
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hallion said:
Kermit power said:
I was started on 50mg, then they upped it to 70mg.

I've now dropped back to 50mg, as I was seeing great benefits with that, but the increase to 70mg just made my tongue hurt a lot more (motor tick - rubbing it against my teeth), made me thirstier and disrupted my sleep without delivering any obvious additional benefits.

I'm hoping that 50mg is the perfect sweet spot. smile
That's excellent you have found your sweet spot. I've just had my first dose of 30mg this morning and the difference from 20mg is surprisingly noticeable. Did you go private and end up on shared care with your GP (sorry if you have covered this before in the thread)?
Initially private, but that was costing me £120 per month for prescriptions alone, and the Concerta they'd put me on wasn't really doing as much as I'd hoped, and was absolutely killing my tongue! The GP wouldn't do shared care with the private provider either, so I just got on the NHS waiting list. Glad I did, as the NHS guy is BRILLIANT! By coincidence (as in ADHD isn't the only thing he treats) he also has ADHD, so the consultations generally involve both of us talking quickly at the same time, and coming away feeling like it was a really positive engagement! biggrin

On that final point, I know people find it annoying when I talk too much, but I never feel the same if other people are doing likewise in a conversation, as I seem generally able to take in and talk at the same time. My problem is when I'm having to try and NOT talk too much, since I then end up getting too focused on what I want to say next, rather than just saying it whilst at the same time listening to others. Does anyone else find the same?

GiantCardboardPlato

4,173 posts

21 months

Wednesday 8th March 2023
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Kermit power/me said:
My problem is when I'm having to try and not talk too much, ME TOO since I then end up getting too focused on what I want to say next EXACTLY, rather than just saying it whilst at the same time listening to others OH I FORGOT WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY. Does anyone else find the YES! same?
as lots here will recognise, many people can interpret the interruptions as rudeness, or a sign that you're uninterested. But it's just the opposite. what the other person has said has sparked five ideas in an instant and we're just really excited by them, think the person we\re talking to would like them, and want to make sure we don't forget them.

Edited by GiantCardboardPlato on Wednesday 8th March 11:40

KTMsm

26,856 posts

263 months

Wednesday 8th March 2023
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GiantCardboardPlato said:
people interpret the interruptions as rudeness

But it's just the opposite. what the other person has said has sparked five ideas in an instant
Exactly this

TameRacingDriver

18,083 posts

272 months

Wednesday 8th March 2023
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I've been reading about getting diagnosed privately via Bupa PMI, but it seems from other people's testimonials that either it's treat as pre existing (fair enough I guess, you can't develop ADHD), or they will diagnose but then it goes back to the NHS channels anyway, and there's no guarantee that your GP will prescribe anything this way, which means you'd have to go private for prescriptions (££££).

So I think I'm probably just going to have to take the NHS route ultimately. I'll arrange an appointment for this asap.

Hugo Stiglitz

37,122 posts

211 months

Wednesday 8th March 2023
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Woodrow Wilson said:
cashmax said:
me constantly forgetting where I have left everything.
Hmmm, yes. Even worse if my wife "tidies up" and my things then disappear from my consciousness, potentially forever.

On the plus side, I have achieved some great things in the time it takes to make my wife a cup of tea.

OK, so making the cup of tea takes a couple of hours, but she can't have everything....
You need exact places where everything has its 'home'.

I have a shelf for ALL cycling clothing, a shelf for ALL judo related.

Part of the spare bedroom is for all motorbike kit. Work clothing etc.

Car keys always sit in the exact spot designated etc etc.

Exercise is key to ADHD, especially HD. You need to do it daily whereas some people would hit the gym three times a week and it needs to be varied. Not gym. Without exercise = escalation in symptoms and indulging in bad stuff.

TameRacingDriver

18,083 posts

272 months

Wednesday 8th March 2023
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I'm really starting to think ADHD is to blame for my abusing of substances like alcohol and weed.

I've had a stressful day at work again and when that happens I simply seem to go into a depressive state that will last the rest of the day, unless I have beer and weed. That always seems to relieve my symptoms. No matter how hard I try not to let it get to me, it's utterly futile.

I'm absolutely rubbish at dealing with stress and so that seems to be my way out. Good job my job isn't incredibly stressful or I simply wouldn't cope at all I don't think. Although it doesn't help me feeling like I don't know what I'm doing and am out of my depth (recently changed careers, not my choice, redundancy, now doing a totally different role).

Kermit power

28,642 posts

213 months

Wednesday 8th March 2023
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TameRacingDriver said:
I've been reading about getting diagnosed privately via Bupa PMI, but it seems from other people's testimonials that either it's treat as pre existing (fair enough I guess, you can't develop ADHD), or they will diagnose but then it goes back to the NHS channels anyway, and there's no guarantee that your GP will prescribe anything this way, which means you'd have to go private for prescriptions (££££).

So I think I'm probably just going to have to take the NHS route ultimately. I'll arrange an appointment for this asap.
My diagnosis was covered by our healthcare provider.

They did indeed then say I was on my own as it's a pre-existing condition, but at least when I took the diagnosis report along the the GP it got me on to a faster queue with NHS Mental Health Services as it was for confirmation rather than initial diagnosis, so it probably still saved me 9-12 months on the queue from what the GP was saying!

Kermit power

28,642 posts

213 months

Wednesday 8th March 2023
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TameRacingDriver said:
I'm really starting to think ADHD is to blame for my abusing of substances like alcohol and weed.

I've had a stressful day at work again and when that happens I simply seem to go into a depressive state that will last the rest of the day, unless I have beer and weed. That always seems to relieve my symptoms. No matter how hard I try not to let it get to me, it's utterly futile.

I'm absolutely rubbish at dealing with stress and so that seems to be my way out. Good job my job isn't incredibly stressful or I simply wouldn't cope at all I don't think. Although it doesn't help me feeling like I don't know what I'm doing and am out of my depth (recently changed careers, not my choice, redundancy, now doing a totally different role).
The flipside to that is when I tried Speed at Uni, I was absolutely convinced that my mates were winding me up and that they'd ripped me off!!! hehe

TameRacingDriver

18,083 posts

272 months

Wednesday 8th March 2023
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Kermit power said:
My diagnosis was covered by our healthcare provider.

They did indeed then say I was on my own as it's a pre-existing condition, but at least when I took the diagnosis report along the the GP it got me on to a faster queue with NHS Mental Health Services as it was for confirmation rather than initial diagnosis, so it probably still saved me 9-12 months on the queue from what the GP was saying!
Ah ok, it might still be worth using it for that then to accelerate the process. smile

Kermit power said:
The flipside to that is when I tried Speed at Uni, I was absolutely convinced that my mates were winding me up and that they'd ripped me off!!! hehe
Did you not notice any effect like? It certainly worked for me when I had it (allegedly) laugh

Kermit power

28,642 posts

213 months

Wednesday 8th March 2023
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TameRacingDriver said:
Did you not notice any effect like? It certainly worked for me when I had it (allegedly) laugh
Nope!

My mates were giving it full on raver buzz and I was just utterly perplexed by the whole experience. It maybe chilled me out a bit, but that was it.

TameRacingDriver

18,083 posts

272 months

Wednesday 8th March 2023
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Kermit power said:
Nope!

My mates were giving it full on raver buzz and I was just utterly perplexed by the whole experience. It maybe chilled me out a bit, but that was it.
I sort of know what you mean to be honest. I found it pleasant and can imagine that it would actually really help me focus - indeed, amphetamines are/were prescribed for ADHD.

Kermit power

28,642 posts

213 months

Wednesday 8th March 2023
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TameRacingDriver said:
I sort of know what you mean to be honest. I found it pleasant and can imagine that it would actually really help me focus - indeed, amphetamines are/were prescribed for ADHD.
They very much still are. The generic name for Elvanse that I'm taking is Lisdexamphetamine.

Speed Badger

2,691 posts

117 months

Wednesday 8th March 2023
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My friend has ADHD and suffers with anxiety. We arranged to meet for a coffee and a chinwag the other day and I arrived at the time we were going to meet and she wasn't there. No probs, she is often bad with timekeeping and getting distracted. Half an hour went by and I messaged, nothing. Then I called, no answer. We were supposed to meet at 1:30 pm, at just gone 3pm she finally messaged saying she had been panicking and that she was a waste of time and to not bother with her. I tried reassuring her it's all good and she's worth it etc. I waited another hour until 4pm but had to go to pick up my daughter.

My question is, do any of you recognise this behaviour and feelings from her in your own selves? What can I do to reassure and understand her issues?

I said later that day it's ok we will try again another day and that I'm not giving up on her. She said I'm one of the nicest people she's ever met and don't know why I keep bothering with her. I said some people are worth bothering with!

michaelT99

15 posts

166 months

Wednesday 8th March 2023
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Speed Badger said:
My friend has ADHD and suffers with anxiety. We arranged to meet for a coffee and a chinwag the other day and I arrived at the time we were going to meet and she wasn't there. No probs, she is often bad with timekeeping and getting distracted. Half an hour went by and I messaged, nothing. Then I called, no answer. We were supposed to meet at 1:30 pm, at just gone 3pm she finally messaged saying she had been panicking and that she was a waste of time and to not bother with her. I tried reassuring her it's all good and she's worth it etc. I waited another hour until 4pm but had to go to pick up my daughter.

My question is, do any of you recognise this behaviour and feelings from her in your own selves? What can I do to reassure and understand her issues?

I said later that day it's ok we will try again another day and that I'm not giving up on her. She said I'm one of the nicest people she's ever met and don't know why I keep bothering with her. I said some people are worth bothering with!
Exactly what I used to do, whether it's posting a parcel or filling in a form etc.
So the deadline gets closer anxiety rises the dead line is closer still the anxiety gets higher until it snowballs out of control, the anxiety takes over then you've lost the battle, you feel useless, valueless.
Maybe set a date and a time, go to pick her up but turn up half hour earlier before the anxiety sets in, it maybe worth a try I guess.

shirt

22,555 posts

201 months

Wednesday 8th March 2023
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TameRacingDriver said:
I'm really starting to think ADHD is to blame for my abusing of substances like alcohol and weed.

I've had a stressful day at work again and when that happens I simply seem to go into a depressive state that will last the rest of the day, unless I have beer and weed. That always seems to relieve my symptoms. No matter how hard I try not to let it get to me, it's utterly futile.

I'm absolutely rubbish at dealing with stress and so that seems to be my way out. Good job my job isn't incredibly stressful or I simply wouldn't cope at all I don't think. Although it doesn't help me feeling like I don't know what I'm doing and am out of my depth (recently changed careers, not my choice, redundancy, now doing a totally different role).
same. weed makes me stoned out but hash makes me feel 'brighter' - mellow, relaxed, more thoughtful in conversation, and weirdly more driven. i can get more done on hash than i could on concerta with non of the downsides.

going through a major trough job wise. does anyone else here struggle with drive when it comes to planning & managing your career?

GiantCardboardPlato

4,173 posts

21 months

Wednesday 8th March 2023
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Shirt, never used to struggle, very successful, since 2020 not felt interested in it, change of boss, small change of focus/direction in organisation, now feel like a) im st at it all b) im no longer interested, a big part is a mid career thing, perhaps. I know I can do it all now, at the highest level, why go to bother of doing/proving all that again? Am I supposed to just keep doing this on repeat till I retire? Boring…

jm8403

2,515 posts

25 months

Wednesday 8th March 2023
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michaelT99 said:
Hello I'm a great fan of reading pistonheads I very rarely post on here, confidence issues really.
But here goes...
As a person I've always felt odd maybe different to other people, i struggled with basic things, tidying organising things, reading and writing (although I can quiet well i guess) committemnt to tasks and life in general also sleep not much quality sleep, headphones were a must then as I got older alcohol as well.
This extended in to my adult life and got worse to the point of severe depression 15 or so years ago, then spent 15 years on antidepressants visiting diferent GPs with mood swings, happy/sad, up and down etc. I was told its this its that bipolar disorder to add to the list.. then it all came to a head 8 weeks ago life was just a waste of time so i decided to seek private help.
Well diagnosis.. severe adhd!
Started off on 30mg elvanse and life was totally different in a good way, then 50mg. a transformation took place , confidence, happiness, mental calm I seem to do stuff other people 'just' do..
I really really can't put it into words what life is like for me now it will take a while to soak in, to sum it up I'm honestly happy with my life for the first time at 53 years old its like the lights have been switched on in a dark room. .
Sorry rambling post but wanted to say what a great thread, and wish all adhd'ers on here the best of luck
And if your unsure, just speak with a professional it could change your life
Amazing - how did you find the professional? local search or was it someone online? What did this cost? Thanks in advance.

GilletteFan

672 posts

31 months

Thursday 9th March 2023
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I've been noticing something more and more with some females I know. The one's I know, that I suspect have depression/ ADHD, are really really bad at managing their laundry and it takes them several days to complete the washing to putting away folded clothes. Does this resonate with any others who have ADHD?

Speed Badger

2,691 posts

117 months

Thursday 9th March 2023
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michaelT99 said:
Speed Badger said:
My friend has ADHD and suffers with anxiety. We arranged to meet for a coffee and a chinwag the other day and I arrived at the time we were going to meet and she wasn't there. No probs, she is often bad with timekeeping and getting distracted. Half an hour went by and I messaged, nothing. Then I called, no answer. We were supposed to meet at 1:30 pm, at just gone 3pm she finally messaged saying she had been panicking and that she was a waste of time and to not bother with her. I tried reassuring her it's all good and she's worth it etc. I waited another hour until 4pm but had to go to pick up my daughter.

My question is, do any of you recognise this behaviour and feelings from her in your own selves? What can I do to reassure and understand her issues?

I said later that day it's ok we will try again another day and that I'm not giving up on her. She said I'm one of the nicest people she's ever met and don't know why I keep bothering with her. I said some people are worth bothering with!
Exactly what I used to do, whether it's posting a parcel or filling in a form etc.
So the deadline gets closer anxiety rises the dead line is closer still the anxiety gets higher until it snowballs out of control, the anxiety takes over then you've lost the battle, you feel useless, valueless.
Maybe set a date and a time, go to pick her up but turn up half hour earlier before the anxiety sets in, it maybe worth a try I guess.
That's really helpful to know that, thank you Michael, feels comforting to know these symptoms are something others have as well. My friend is quite a 'new' friend, like we've become friends in the last 6 months and it's been challenging trying to understand her issues.

It's been hard with my own issues, feeling like she doesn't want to know me one minute then almost 'love bombing' (in a friend way) the next. She's a really amazing person and has an autistic son as well, so there's lots going on with her, but she has a heart of gold and from a personal point of view has added so much fun and laughter into my life.

Picking her up sounds like a good idea smile

Kermit power

28,642 posts

213 months

Thursday 9th March 2023
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GilletteFan said:
I've been noticing something more and more with some females I know. The one's I know, that I suspect have depression/ ADHD, are really really bad at managing their laundry and it takes them several days to complete the washing to putting away folded clothes. Does this resonate with any others who have ADHD?
Spare the rod, spoil the female, eh? hehe

How many "females" do you know closely enough to be intimately acquainted with their laundry habits?

For me, I reckon the line would be drawn at my mother and wife, given that any prior girlfriends are now 25 years out of date!