Anyone else getting tired of it all?
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My son has managed only 2 days at school this week of returning to the classroom.
He left this morning but called his mum outside the gates saying he was having a panic attack. Now on his way home.
I'm sure many other school kids are having problems.
What has been done to a generation of students?
He left this morning but called his mum outside the gates saying he was having a panic attack. Now on his way home.
I'm sure many other school kids are having problems.
What has been done to a generation of students?
I've found this thread helpful, so thank you all. Just to know that having a headache by 10am again, total lack of motivation, slouching round the house trying to figure out anything to do, missing my wife terribly, missing my friends and social life, being angry about the mind games being played out in the media and by the media (timetable out of lockdown yay, another wave coming, schools back, universities can go back but shouldn't, blah blah flip/flop) and all that isn't just me.
Let's not turn on each other. Plenty of threads for covid policy bashing or supporting.
Somehow we need to keep going. Some days it's ok, some it's not. It's raining again here which doesn't help. Even the dog is fed up.
Let's not turn on each other. Plenty of threads for covid policy bashing or supporting.
Somehow we need to keep going. Some days it's ok, some it's not. It's raining again here which doesn't help. Even the dog is fed up.
croyde said:
My son has managed only 2 days at school this week of returning to the classroom.
He left this morning but called his mum outside the gates saying he was having a panic attack. Now on his way home.
I'm sure many other school kids are having problems.
What has been done to a generation of students?
Purely annecdotal, but I was talking to a primary teacher at the weekend and she was saying that the year 5s were 'really struggling' with going back to school, and was worried about their lack of socialising over the last 12 months. It does make you wonder what impact missing out on these key developmental experiences will affect their lives / education in the years to come.He left this morning but called his mum outside the gates saying he was having a panic attack. Now on his way home.
I'm sure many other school kids are having problems.
What has been done to a generation of students?
From a purely selfish point of view, I'm glad I was classed as a 'key worker' all the way through this and haven't had a single day of furlough, and as a result my daughter was still able to attend nursery throughout so hasn't noticed any difference to a 'normal' year. It's been a boring relentless slog for me but every cloud and all that.
Sometime back, probably around September / October when the murmurings of lockdown started circulating I made a conscious decision to do what's best for myself and my family - particularly in the matter of mental health and enjoyment of life.
If I had a partner I could see relatively easily but it meant breaking lockdown rules - Would I do it? You bet your arse I would.
If I wanted to go for a long hike in a different part of the country alone, even if it meant travelling 1.5 hours - Would I do it? Absof
kinglutely.
If I was feeling stressed out and a long but non-essential drive would help - Would I do it?.....Again yes.
If I needed to talk to friends outside of my bubble and we was both happy to do it inside - Would I do it?....I think you get the idea by now.
I'm speaking from a personal standpoint here, but you need to prioritise your own mental health and wellbeing, ESPECIALLY now as cases are fk all of what they have been and the vaccination drive is ploughing on.
Obviously be sensible, don't go to mass gatherings, raves, house parties etc. but for fks sake, look after yourself rather than blindly following the rules. When you look into many of them, they simply don't make sense other than to promote compliance.
I'm sorry but not seeing your partner is just bonkers. Ask yourself why you aren't, and what is the risk if you do? Then make a decision. You don't need to be spoonfed from HMG.
Edited to add - If anyone fancies lecturing me on my lack of compliance, I'm not interested
I work with quantitative risk every day, I'm quite aware of my personal profile.
If I had a partner I could see relatively easily but it meant breaking lockdown rules - Would I do it? You bet your arse I would.
If I wanted to go for a long hike in a different part of the country alone, even if it meant travelling 1.5 hours - Would I do it? Absof
kinglutely. If I was feeling stressed out and a long but non-essential drive would help - Would I do it?.....Again yes.
If I needed to talk to friends outside of my bubble and we was both happy to do it inside - Would I do it?....I think you get the idea by now.
I'm speaking from a personal standpoint here, but you need to prioritise your own mental health and wellbeing, ESPECIALLY now as cases are f
k all of what they have been and the vaccination drive is ploughing on. Obviously be sensible, don't go to mass gatherings, raves, house parties etc. but for f
ks sake, look after yourself rather than blindly following the rules. When you look into many of them, they simply don't make sense other than to promote compliance. I'm sorry but not seeing your partner is just bonkers. Ask yourself why you aren't, and what is the risk if you do? Then make a decision. You don't need to be spoonfed from HMG.
Edited to add - If anyone fancies lecturing me on my lack of compliance, I'm not interested
I work with quantitative risk every day, I'm quite aware of my personal profile. Edited by Pete102 on Wednesday 10th March 10:22
Pete102 said:
Sometime back, probably around September / October when the murmurings of lockdown started circulating I made a conscious decision to do what's best for myself and my family - particularly in the matter of mental health and enjoyment of life.
If I had a partner I could see relatively easily but it meant breaking lockdown rules - Would I do it? You bet your arse I would.
If I wanted to go for a long hike in a different part of the country alone, even if it meant travelling 1.5 hours - Would I do it? Absofkinglutely.
If I was feeling stressed out and a long but non-essential drive would help - Would I do it?.....Again yes.
If I needed to talk to friends outside of my bubble and we was both happy to do it inside - Would I do it?....I think you get the idea by now.
I'm speaking from a personal standpoint here, but you need to prioritise your own mental health and wellbeing, ESPECIALLY now as cases are fk all of what they have been and the vaccination drive is ploughing on.
Obviously be sensible, don't go to mass gatherings, raves, house parties etc. but for fks sake, look after yourself rather than blindly following the rules. When you look into many of them, they simply don't make sense other than to promote compliance.
I'm sorry but not seeing your partner is just bonkers. Ask yourself why you aren't, and what is the risk if you do? Then make a decision. You don't need to be spoonfed from HMG.
Edited to add - If anyone fancies lecturing me on my lack of compliance, I'm not interested I work with quantitative risk every day, I'm quite aware of my personal profile.
Agree totally. Quietly and firmly get on with your life. No need to publish it on facebook or make it obvious. When the hysterical calm down, the world will still be here ready for them.If I had a partner I could see relatively easily but it meant breaking lockdown rules - Would I do it? You bet your arse I would.
If I wanted to go for a long hike in a different part of the country alone, even if it meant travelling 1.5 hours - Would I do it? Absof
kinglutely. If I was feeling stressed out and a long but non-essential drive would help - Would I do it?.....Again yes.
If I needed to talk to friends outside of my bubble and we was both happy to do it inside - Would I do it?....I think you get the idea by now.
I'm speaking from a personal standpoint here, but you need to prioritise your own mental health and wellbeing, ESPECIALLY now as cases are f
k all of what they have been and the vaccination drive is ploughing on. Obviously be sensible, don't go to mass gatherings, raves, house parties etc. but for f
ks sake, look after yourself rather than blindly following the rules. When you look into many of them, they simply don't make sense other than to promote compliance. I'm sorry but not seeing your partner is just bonkers. Ask yourself why you aren't, and what is the risk if you do? Then make a decision. You don't need to be spoonfed from HMG.
Edited to add - If anyone fancies lecturing me on my lack of compliance, I'm not interested
I work with quantitative risk every day, I'm quite aware of my personal profile. Edited by Pete102 on Wednesday 10th March 10:22
Carrot said:
Agree totally. Quietly and firmly get on with your life. No need to publish it on facebook or make it obvious. When the hysterical calm down, the world will still be here ready for them.
I must admit, I had a small laugh to myself when HMG said we can now meet one other person outside of a coffee.....I've seen this happening for months! My wife is in the US, so it's not like I can just pop round. I'm hoping to go over there soon, but now the threat of hotel quarantine has me worrying - this lack of certainty is part of the problem. Even most prisoners have a release date. My closest friends all have vulnerable people in their households and are being super careful - it takes two or more to agree to meet up. I have managed to get out and see one friend, since he's also doing some work for me so we're not breaking rules and that's great, but it's once every few weeks.
mr_spock said:
My wife is in the US, so it's not like I can just pop round. I'm hoping to go over there soon, but now the threat of hotel quarantine has me worrying - this lack of certainty is part of the problem. Even most prisoners have a release date. My closest friends all have vulnerable people in their households and are being super careful - it takes two or more to agree to meet up. I have managed to get out and see one friend, since he's also doing some work for me so we're not breaking rules and that's great, but it's once every few weeks.
It's difficult, I know (my partner also lives overseas!) - Haven't seen her since the end of December. mr_spock said:
My wife is in the US, so it's not like I can just pop round. I'm hoping to go over there soon, but now the threat of hotel quarantine has me worrying - this lack of certainty is part of the problem. Even most prisoners have a release date. My closest friends all have vulnerable people in their households and are being super careful - it takes two or more to agree to meet up. I have managed to get out and see one friend, since he's also doing some work for me so we're not breaking rules and that's great, but it's once every few weeks.
Thinking logically for a moment (hopefully Dr Doom and Jean Claude Van Tam aren't earwigging)...If you could travel to the USA, you'd go at the drop of a hat, yes? But when you got there you may be put into quarantine. But if it's only your wife, and no kids/pets to consider, you'd think that it would be OK for her to join you in quarantine, no? I mean she'd enter into quarantine voluntarily, and clearly wouldn't be allowed out until you were, but two people isolated in a hotel room is no different to one person in the same room. And in practical terms the reason for isolation is to allow any viral infection to incubate and present itself to avoid introducing it to the wider population. So if your wife accepts the risk, then what's the issue? Or am I a fool to follow logic instead of accepting the "because rules, innit" reasoning so beloved of bureaucrats?
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Can anyone book in, or are we supposed to be awaiting an invite?I'm 50 but I'm not "on the list" for a jab yet. My wife had hers through work (she's a nurse) but because we have lots of older folk here in Bournemouth we're only just getting around to the 55 to 59 year old age bracket. My neighbour is 58 and has his jab booked now, so it'll be a couple of weeks at least before I get mine. If, indeed, I decide I want to have it.
yellowjack said:
Thinking logically for a moment (hopefully Dr Doom and Jean Claude Van Tam aren't earwigging)...
If you could travel to the USA, you'd go at the drop of a hat, yes? But when you got there you may be put into quarantine. But if it's only your wife, and no kids/pets to consider, you'd think that it would be OK for her to join you in quarantine, no? I mean she'd enter into quarantine voluntarily, and clearly wouldn't be allowed out until you were, but two people isolated in a hotel room is no different to one person in the same room. And in practical terms the reason for isolation is to allow any viral infection to incubate and present itself to avoid introducing it to the wider population. So if your wife accepts the risk, then what's the issue? Or am I a fool to follow logic instead of accepting the "because rules, innit" reasoning so beloved of bureaucrats?
I read that as the threat of hotel quarantine on return? maybe impact to work etc.If you could travel to the USA, you'd go at the drop of a hat, yes? But when you got there you may be put into quarantine. But if it's only your wife, and no kids/pets to consider, you'd think that it would be OK for her to join you in quarantine, no? I mean she'd enter into quarantine voluntarily, and clearly wouldn't be allowed out until you were, but two people isolated in a hotel room is no different to one person in the same room. And in practical terms the reason for isolation is to allow any viral infection to incubate and present itself to avoid introducing it to the wider population. So if your wife accepts the risk, then what's the issue? Or am I a fool to follow logic instead of accepting the "because rules, innit" reasoning so beloved of bureaucrats?
Carrot said:
I think a certain type of person is publicly shouting about wanting more of this, and those are the voices that are heard.
Tide is turning. Of course the lockdown lovers and mask lovers are not going to want it to end. Some people just like to be ruled.
This isn't aimed at just you. Tide is turning. Of course the lockdown lovers and mask lovers are not going to want it to end. Some people just like to be ruled.
But, whilst these attitudes are frustrating, but they're just scared. They're not sub-human.
All these angry people, they're just frightened and fed up. Some frightened and fed up about losing their personal freedoms, some frightened and angry at individuals they see as socially irresponsible and propagating the infection. Some have lost loved ones, some can't see their loved ones. Some have lost their jobs due to the infection, some due to the lockdown. All with their own biases and tragedies that do deserve a degree of respect, as does their right to an opinion (even if not necessarily their opinion itself).
All of us have lost something, even if it's that personal contact we never realised was so important, or maybe you're just waiting for the tax bill. So, as above, some compassion is required here. Frightened people do and say stupid things, again see above posts, but we've all been there right? We're human?
To my eyes it seems blinding obvious that what happened here, was that the fragility of our system of leadership, society, and finances was exposed. A virus that existed for millions of years, changed fractionally, and nearly brought down nearly an entire global economy. We have been left fractured and broken in wake of a virus that only actively killed off a small slither of the most vulnerable. We ourselves will have killed off more healthy people by our actions in preventing it, and decimated our economy.
There's real lessons to be learned here, I'd suggest that we've seen all these problems run much deeper in our societies than Doris at Gregs who won't get vaccinated as she thinks they're made from dead babies, or Dave next door who likes to say "Covidiots". We've now seen in real time how we have as societies competed globally to see who can build the highest house of cards, and we've watched nature blow a slight gust of wind, and the whole deck nearly come tumbling.
Or we can continue to get pissy with each other just as we are coming to what, we all hope, is the worst of it.
I've hit a new low this morning.
Day 3 of no booze, and I am wondering whether I am experience withdrawal symptoms, or whether I've just completely ruined my body, but getting chest pains, shakes, sweating, depression, guilt, headache, the works.
I feel like I'm at a cross roads. Either things can get better, or they can get much, much worse. I feel as low as I've ever felt in my life. I'm just begging for it to end one way or another.
I should be filling out an application form for another role at my place to try and save my job and all I can think about is how I've ruined my fking life (with a little help from a pandemic).
Day 3 of no booze, and I am wondering whether I am experience withdrawal symptoms, or whether I've just completely ruined my body, but getting chest pains, shakes, sweating, depression, guilt, headache, the works.
I feel like I'm at a cross roads. Either things can get better, or they can get much, much worse. I feel as low as I've ever felt in my life. I'm just begging for it to end one way or another.
I should be filling out an application form for another role at my place to try and save my job and all I can think about is how I've ruined my f
king life (with a little help from a pandemic).TameRacingDriver said:
I've hit a new low this morning.
Day 3 of no booze, and I am wondering whether I am experience withdrawal symptoms, or whether I've just completely ruined my body, but getting chest pains, shakes, sweating, depression, guilt, headache, the works.
I feel like I'm at a cross roads. Either things can get better, or they can get much, much worse. I feel as low as I've ever felt in my life. I'm just begging for it to end one way or another.
I should be filling out an application form for another role at my place to try and save my job and all I can think about is how I've ruined my fking life (with a little help from a pandemic).
Stick in there fella, you've done great so far, try to just manage things one hour at a timeDay 3 of no booze, and I am wondering whether I am experience withdrawal symptoms, or whether I've just completely ruined my body, but getting chest pains, shakes, sweating, depression, guilt, headache, the works.
I feel like I'm at a cross roads. Either things can get better, or they can get much, much worse. I feel as low as I've ever felt in my life. I'm just begging for it to end one way or another.
I should be filling out an application form for another role at my place to try and save my job and all I can think about is how I've ruined my f
king life (with a little help from a pandemic).Be careful TRD, if things start to go downhill fast, call the ambulance, leave the front door open and have a bloody drink. Alcohol withdrawal can be fatal, and the amount you were drinking prev is danger territory. I am st scared of stopping drinking and would never do it cold turkey. Also, get a referral from your docs to an Alcohol counsellor.
t scared of stopping drinking and would never do it cold turkey. Also, get a referral from your docs to an Alcohol counsellor. TameRacingDriver said:
I've hit a new low this morning.
Day 3 of no booze, and I am wondering whether I am experience withdrawal symptoms, or whether I've just completely ruined my body, but getting chest pains, shakes, sweating, depression, guilt, headache, the works.
I feel like I'm at a cross roads. Either things can get better, or they can get much, much worse. I feel as low as I've ever felt in my life. I'm just begging for it to end one way or another.
I should be filling out an application form for another role at my place to try and save my job and all I can think about is how I've ruined my fking life (with a little help from a pandemic).
You haven't ruined your life....well...no more than anyone else Day 3 of no booze, and I am wondering whether I am experience withdrawal symptoms, or whether I've just completely ruined my body, but getting chest pains, shakes, sweating, depression, guilt, headache, the works.
I feel like I'm at a cross roads. Either things can get better, or they can get much, much worse. I feel as low as I've ever felt in my life. I'm just begging for it to end one way or another.
I should be filling out an application form for another role at my place to try and save my job and all I can think about is how I've ruined my f
king life (with a little help from a pandemic).
Seriously pal, you're on the up. You may well be having withdrawals from the booze, but you've already gone 3 days, stick it out until the end of this day and go from there. One day at a time.
Set aside an hour for the application form, no distractions, no phone, nothing. Focus and get it done, then head out for a walk to clear your head and get some fresh air. We're on the up, you can either join in, or get dragged along, either way things are changing for the better.
Also, if you think you're having a bad day, I fell down the stairs naked this morning.....the second time this week.
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