Vaccine side effects
Discussion
Gooose said:
Am I right in saying that there is a higher chance of dying from the delta variant if you have been vaccinated? Lol
Sadly, given raw data, no hindsight, no foresight, pretty much yes. Whether that turns out to be the case, when the dust settles, is debatable, but it’s a bit of an anomaly as it stands. I’ve had my 2 doses. Do I think the vaccines do anything other than enable a bit of normality, until the data shake down proves otherwise? No, I’m very sceptical of the effectiveness of them. But I’ll get a nice little QR code that will probably be worth it’s weight in gold, until the whole s
tstorm starts again, should it end up being the case that the vaccines aren’t as much use as we were told they were. They either are ( happy days ) or they’re not ( boo hiss ), but I’m hedging my bets, and giving myself a chance of getting something approaching normal in the interim.Edited by Maximus_Meridius101 on Sunday 27th June 22:22
Gooose said:
some piss
Loathed to interact with you as on another thread you said "Maybe because they don’t want to die" in response to someone asking why an adult would not want to get vaxed.Back on topic - a mate had second Pfizer (at 6 weeks!) on Friday evening, felt cold last night, had an early night, and been fine today.
Loathe to share a Guardian link, but this article is written by people who really do understand the stats:
https://www.theguardian.com/theobserver/commentisf...
https://www.theguardian.com/theobserver/commentisf...
Gooose said:
robuk said:
Gooose said:
Am I right
No. Double vaccinated over 50s: 1.4%
Double vaccinated under 50s: 0% (zero deaths)
Unvaccinated over 50s: 3.9%
Unvaccinated under 50s: 0.01%
So you have a lower chance of dying is you have been double vaccinated.
Edited by CarlosFandango11 on Sunday 27th June 22:53
robuk said:
Gooose said:
grow up
Loathed to interact with you as on another thread you said "Maybe because they don’t want to die" in response to someone asking why an adult would not want to get vaxed.Back on topic - a mate had second Pfizer (at 6 weeks!) on Friday evening, felt cold last night, had an early night, and been fine today.
Slowboathome said:
Loathe to share a Guardian link, but this article is written by people who really do understand the stats:
https://www.theguardian.com/theobserver/commentisf...
If it’s a good links it’s always worth while, I can get my head around it more now. When they say that if 100% of the population have been vaccinated we would still have a number of deaths. Makes sensehttps://www.theguardian.com/theobserver/commentisf...
CarlosFandango11 said:
Gooose said:
robuk said:
Gooose said:
Am I right
No. Double vaccinated over 50s: 1.4%
Double vaccinated under 50s: 0% (zero deaths)
Unvaccinated over 50s: 3.9%
Unvaccinated under 50s: 0.01%
So you have a lower chance of dying is you have been double vaccinated.
Edited by CarlosFandango11 on Sunday 27th June 22:53
robuk said:
Pfizer two dose full course 85-90% effective going off a recent preprint / final PHE report recently. What were 'we' told to expect?
What you said in the first bit. We can’t make a reasoned judgment on it, whilst we’re in what is historically a ‘ lull’ period. If the merde hasn’t hit the fan before next March / April, we get what we were promised, we shall see.Maximus_Meridius101 said:
robuk said:
Pfizer two dose full course 85-90% effective going off a recent preprint / final PHE report recently. What were 'we' told to expect?
What you said in the first bit. We can’t make a reasoned judgment on it, whilst we’re in what is historically a ‘ lull’ period. If the merde hasn’t hit the fan before next March / April, we get what we were promised, we shall see.Perhaps you know better?
Local paper running a story about a number off women suffering period problems since having the vaccine . Daughter said that a friend off hers aged 21 who was jagged 3 months ago because off working in a care home had being suffering, but had only made the connection after reading the story, so possibly a number off other women affected without realising the cause.
J6542 said:
Local paper running a story about a number off women suffering period problems since having the vaccine . Daughter said that a friend off hers aged 21 who was jagged 3 months ago because off working in a care home had being suffering, but had only made the connection after reading the story, so possibly a number off other women affected without realising the cause.
Read it on the bbc news app as well. Also after watching this video from one of the original mRNA vaccine scientist, he talks about how the synthetic lipid used in the vaccine built up in ovaries of the mice in initial experiments. Which is really odd apparently?https://thehighwire.com/videos/mrna-vaccine-invent...
Gooose said:
Have you done much research into 'The Highwire' and its presenter, Del Bigtree? It's really hard to take seriously someone who is an Andrew Wakefield supporter and has so obviously misrepresented science repeatedly.
He actually encouraged his viewers to deliberately get infected with Covid 19.
That's before we get to the situation of his support for trump's lies regarding the election, which rather seals the deal that he's genuinely nuts.
CarlosFandango11 said:
PHE seem to think vaccines are effective: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/governmen...
Perhaps you know better?
What PHE have done is called the result of a race, before the end of qualifying. I hope they’re right, but I wouldn’t want to be in their shoes if they’re not.Perhaps you know better?
Maximus_Meridius101 said:
Yesterday, I brought my second jab forward from the 4th July. I think it was the Pfizer BioNTech this time, which is interesting because my first jab was OAZ. Apparently it’s not a problem to mix them. I felt a whole lot better this morning than I did the morning after the first jab, and my arm doesn’t ache like it did last time either.
Are they mixing vaccines now? I thought you had to have the same two jabs?Gassing Station | Health Matters | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff