Vaccine side effects
Discussion
mybrainhurts said:
Calm down dear, they haven't been declared safe.
I've seen documentation from one developer that said theirs won't be deemed safe until trials are complete in two or three years and, until then, it must be considered experimental. I'll try to find it again and post up the link for doubters.
In addition, no trials have been run to determine adverse effects arising from conflicts with other medication.
That's why I'm steering clear.
If you're not a child, having the vaccine today will reduce your chances of being dead in 6 weeks, 1 year, 10 years, or any time in the future of your natural lifespan.I've seen documentation from one developer that said theirs won't be deemed safe until trials are complete in two or three years and, until then, it must be considered experimental. I'll try to find it again and post up the link for doubters.
In addition, no trials have been run to determine adverse effects arising from conflicts with other medication.
That's why I'm steering clear.
When you're dead, there's no risk of side effects.
mybrainhurts said:
Calm down dear, they haven't been declared safe.
I've seen documentation from one developer that said theirs won't be deemed safe until trials are complete in two or three years and, until then, it must be considered experimental. I'll try to find it again and post up the link for doubters.
In addition, no trials have been run to determine adverse effects arising from conflicts with other medication.
That's why I'm steering clear.
I do love reading your posts. Without exception, and regardless of topic, they are the epitome of grabbing the wrong end of the stick and running with it as hard as you can.I've seen documentation from one developer that said theirs won't be deemed safe until trials are complete in two or three years and, until then, it must be considered experimental. I'll try to find it again and post up the link for doubters.
In addition, no trials have been run to determine adverse effects arising from conflicts with other medication.
That's why I'm steering clear.
If I ever need any life tips, I can just look at what mybrainhurts is saying and do exactly the opposite.
deckster said:
mybrainhurts said:
Calm down dear, they haven't been declared safe.
I've seen documentation from one developer that said theirs won't be deemed safe until trials are complete in two or three years and, until then, it must be considered experimental. I'll try to find it again and post up the link for doubters.
In addition, no trials have been run to determine adverse effects arising from conflicts with other medication.
That's why I'm steering clear.
I do love reading your posts. Without exception, and regardless of topic, they are the epitome of grabbing the wrong end of the stick and running with it as hard as you can.I've seen documentation from one developer that said theirs won't be deemed safe until trials are complete in two or three years and, until then, it must be considered experimental. I'll try to find it again and post up the link for doubters.
In addition, no trials have been run to determine adverse effects arising from conflicts with other medication.
That's why I'm steering clear.
If I ever need any life tips, I can just look at what mybrainhurts is saying and do exactly the opposite.
paulguitar said:
mybrainhurts said:
There can be no evidence for unforeseen circumstances. If there were, Thalidomide would not have made it to market.
There is no possible comparison with Thalidomide though. It's kind of insulting to the scientists who've developed these vaccines to bring that up.Then ask them if they are happy to fly.
MOBB said:
Had the Moderna first jab 24 hours ago, very slick operation in Northampton, felt a very slight scratch.
Arm has progressively become a bit more painful since, feels like someone has punched it.
Not really sure if I am more tired etc, certainly no flu like symptoms.
A further 24 hours on, definitely more tired and slightly coldy-feeling.Arm has progressively become a bit more painful since, feels like someone has punched it.
Not really sure if I am more tired etc, certainly no flu like symptoms.
I will soldier on and not whinge, like all men.
Got mine (AZ) on Saturday, very very slight sore arm about 24 hrs after, like you have banged it off a door or something, but other than that, nothing.
Wife, who suffers with not that great health, and had her's a few weeks ago with mild symptoms for a couple of days after, called me a jammy bd
Wife, who suffers with not that great health, and had her's a few weeks ago with mild symptoms for a couple of days after, called me a jammy bd
Electronicpants said:
Got mine (AZ) on Saturday, very very slight sore arm about 24 hrs after, like you have banged it off a door or something, but other than that, nothing.
Wife, who suffers with not that great health, and had her's a few weeks ago with mild symptoms for a couple of days after, called me a jammy bd
I’m wondering if having some sort of reaction is better than getting no reaction, or not. Does no reaction / side effects mean that the immune system hasn’t responded, and therefore the vaccine hasn’t worked? Wife, who suffers with not that great health, and had her's a few weeks ago with mild symptoms for a couple of days after, called me a jammy bd
Maximus_Meridius101 said:
Electronicpants said:
Got mine (AZ) on Saturday, very very slight sore arm about 24 hrs after, like you have banged it off a door or something, but other than that, nothing.
Wife, who suffers with not that great health, and had her's a few weeks ago with mild symptoms for a couple of days after, called me a jammy bd
I’m wondering if having some sort of reaction is better than getting no reaction, or not. Does no reaction / side effects mean that the immune system hasn’t responded, and therefore the vaccine hasn’t worked? Wife, who suffers with not that great health, and had her's a few weeks ago with mild symptoms for a couple of days after, called me a jammy bd
There's an awful lot more to it that that but that's just a basic example.
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
Maximus_Meridius101 said:
Electronicpants said:
Got mine (AZ) on Saturday, very very slight sore arm about 24 hrs after, like you have banged it off a door or something, but other than that, nothing.
Wife, who suffers with not that great health, and had her's a few weeks ago with mild symptoms for a couple of days after, called me a jammy bd
I’m wondering if having some sort of reaction is better than getting no reaction, or not. Does no reaction / side effects mean that the immune system hasn’t responded, and therefore the vaccine hasn’t worked? Wife, who suffers with not that great health, and had her's a few weeks ago with mild symptoms for a couple of days after, called me a jammy bd
There's an awful lot more to it that that but that's just a basic example.
Electronicpants said:
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
Maximus_Meridius101 said:
Electronicpants said:
Got mine (AZ) on Saturday, very very slight sore arm about 24 hrs after, like you have banged it off a door or something, but other than that, nothing.
Wife, who suffers with not that great health, and had her's a few weeks ago with mild symptoms for a couple of days after, called me a jammy bd
I’m wondering if having some sort of reaction is better than getting no reaction, or not. Does no reaction / side effects mean that the immune system hasn’t responded, and therefore the vaccine hasn’t worked? Wife, who suffers with not that great health, and had her's a few weeks ago with mild symptoms for a couple of days after, called me a jammy bd
There's an awful lot more to it that that but that's just a basic example.
Gut health plays a major role in all sorts of things from immunity, depression, various neurological disorders etc etc. It's massive, so well done you
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
Most people who supplement vitamin D take a stupidly low dose. For most people in the UK 4-5000iu/day is a really good amount. If obese, you can more than double that. Those that say you'll get toxicity at those amounts don't know the research (nobody has shown toxicity under 500nmol/L serum levels) or think you'll get kidney stones (ironically, kidney stones linked with LOW vitamin D, and no correlation has been found between increase in stones and high vitamin D levels). I try to get patients of mine 125-175nmol/L if possible, that's spot on. Impossible in the UK without supplementing.
Gut health plays a major role in all sorts of things from immunity, depression, various neurological disorders etc etc. It's massive, so well done you
Thanks, to be fair my wife got some "skin looking things" from her Uncle that she grows in jars and makes these drinks that look horrific, she's very into it, all I do is drink them Gut health plays a major role in all sorts of things from immunity, depression, various neurological disorders etc etc. It's massive, so well done you
I take 2000iu/day.
Electronicpants said:
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
Most people who supplement vitamin D take a stupidly low dose. For most people in the UK 4-5000iu/day is a really good amount. If obese, you can more than double that. Those that say you'll get toxicity at those amounts don't know the research (nobody has shown toxicity under 500nmol/L serum levels) or think you'll get kidney stones (ironically, kidney stones linked with LOW vitamin D, and no correlation has been found between increase in stones and high vitamin D levels). I try to get patients of mine 125-175nmol/L if possible, that's spot on. Impossible in the UK without supplementing.
Gut health plays a major role in all sorts of things from immunity, depression, various neurological disorders etc etc. It's massive, so well done you
Thanks, to be fair my wife got some "skin looking things" from her Uncle that she grows in jars and makes these drinks that look horrific, she's very into it, all I do is drink them Gut health plays a major role in all sorts of things from immunity, depression, various neurological disorders etc etc. It's massive, so well done you
I take 2000iu/day.
MOBB said:
MOBB said:
Had the Moderna first jab 24 hours ago, very slick operation in Northampton, felt a very slight scratch.
Arm has progressively become a bit more painful since, feels like someone has punched it.
Not really sure if I am more tired etc, certainly no flu like symptoms.
A further 24 hours on, definitely more tired and slightly coldy-feeling.Arm has progressively become a bit more painful since, feels like someone has punched it.
Not really sure if I am more tired etc, certainly no flu like symptoms.
I will soldier on and not whinge, like all men.
Yesterday afternoon and evening I did feel quite rough, very tired and felt quite coldy, but woke up this morning fine.
I had horrific Wisdom tooth pain for around 72 hours following my jab.....I believe this was more than just a co-incidence as i've not had any wisdom tooth pain since I was in my late teens (some twenty odd years ago), and it came on within 24hrs of the jab and went away really quickly.
Reading the weekly OAZ publication regarding side effects, tooth pain appears to be fairly common....
Reading the weekly OAZ publication regarding side effects, tooth pain appears to be fairly common....
Had Oxford AstraZeneca jab yesterday afternoon at 17:30. Arm a bit sore. I woke up today at 03:30 with a thumping headache and severe shivering to the point I struggling to take painkillers and drink the water.
Back to bed for a few hours but still feeling quite rough with flu symptoms though shivering has stopped and not feeling as bad as first thing. No way I could work today.
40, pretty fit with gym and running and healthy diet, don’t drink blah blah. I’m very stressed at work at the moment so I wonder if that is a factor on how you react.
Back to bed for a few hours but still feeling quite rough with flu symptoms though shivering has stopped and not feeling as bad as first thing. No way I could work today.
40, pretty fit with gym and running and healthy diet, don’t drink blah blah. I’m very stressed at work at the moment so I wonder if that is a factor on how you react.
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