Does anyone know an Anti Covid vaxxer?

[Tankrizzo]

Davey you are just doing the usual anti-vax thing of regurgitating a lot of stuff you don't really understand but you think in some way backs up your point. You're not listening to the answers people are giving you, just responding with more random links (do you honestly think a site called "doctors4covidethics" is going to be a balanced source?)

You even said you weren't here to debate so I don't know why we're surprised.

[ooid]

davey83 said:

How is a local GP going to know anything about the long term side effects of a mRNA vaccines never before used if the mass public?

I think this is becoming like arguing with a flat-earther really, so there is no point after this comment.

Good luck with your life, I'm out.

[MYOB]

ooid said:

davey83 said:

How is a local GP going to know anything about the long term side effects of a mRNA vaccines never before used if the mass public?

I think this is becoming like arguing with a flat-earther really, so there is no point after this comment.

Good luck with your life, I'm out.

He's correct though.

[anonymous-user]

MYOB said:

He's correct though.

He’d be correct if he said eating a McDonald’s can kill you but neither are a factor in making life choices.

[survivalist]

V6 Pushfit said:

MYOB said:

He's correct though.

He’d be correct if he said eating a McDonald’s can kill you but neither are a factor in making life choices.

In terms of life choices, an awful lot of people are at virtually zero risk of covid. Also at virtually zero risk of negatives effects of having the vaccine.

There’s an abutment regarding transmission reduction, but that’s a personal choice.

In reality, if you’re healthy and under 50, the main reason to have the vaccine is because a large number of hysterical people are pushing for vaccine passports (negative view) or offering freedom from quarantine if you’ve been vaccines (less negative view).

The impact on the social care / health care industry is going to be interesting if they make vaccines mandatory.

[smn159]

survivalist said:

a large number of hysterical people are pushing for...etc

Strawman alert!

[survivalist]

smn159 said:

survivalist said:

a large number of hysterical people are pushing for...etc

Strawman alert!

Hardly. If presented the graph below why would anyone under the age of 60 be seriously concerned? And that’s died with covid, rather than from covid.

BTW, not anti-vax. Just pointless-vax if you’re not at risk.

[anonymous-user]

survivalist said:

Hardly. If presented the graph below why would anyone under the age of 60 be seriously concerned? And that’s died with covid, rather than from covid.

BTW, not anti-vax. Just pointless-vax if you’re not at risk.

How can it be pointless when it’s the main (only) driver to ending lockdown?

[survivalist]

V6 Pushfit said:

survivalist said:

Hardly. If presented the graph below why would anyone under the age of 60 be seriously concerned? And that’s died with covid, rather than from covid.

BTW, not anti-vax. Just pointless-vax if you’re not at risk.

How can it be pointless when it’s the main (only) driver to ending lockdown?

It’s likely that lockdown will end when people stop ‘overwhelming’ the NHS and/or dying with covid 19.

Since having both injection prevents the above, we only need to vaccinate those likely to end up in hospital/die.

The obsession with vaccinating everyone just in case is precisely what makes a hysterical response. The flu jab is a perfect example - we vaccinate those at risk, and people in close contact with those at risk. Not 20 year old students who have fk all contact with pensioners.

[67Dino]

survivalist said:

smn159 said:

survivalist said:

a large number of hysterical people are pushing for...etc

Strawman alert!

Hardly. If presented the graph below why would anyone under the age of 60 be seriously concerned? And that’s died with covid, rather than from covid.

BTW, not anti-vax. Just pointless-vax if you’re not at risk.

Two of my close work colleagues are unable to work with long Covid. One is mid 50s, the other mid 30s, neither had existing health conditions, both the last people to be malingerers. They didn’t die, they didn’t go to hospital, so they aren’t in the stats. They just had really bad Coronavirus and 6 months later haven’t yet got their full strength back.

I really hope you don’t get it Survivalist as for some people it’s not the mild flu it’s portrayed as.

[survivalist]

67Dino said:

survivalist said:

smn159 said:

survivalist said:

a large number of hysterical people are pushing for...etc

Strawman alert!

Hardly. If presented the graph below why would anyone under the age of 60 be seriously concerned? And that’s died with covid, rather than from covid.

BTW, not anti-vax. Just pointless-vax if you’re not at risk.

Two of my close work colleagues are unable to work with long Covid. One is mid 50s, the other mid 30s, neither had existing health conditions, both the last people to be malingerers. They didn’t die, they didn’t go to hospital, so they aren’t in the stats. They just had really bad Coronavirus and 6 months later haven’t yet got their full strength back.

I really hope you don’t get it Survivalist as for some people it’s not the mild flu it’s portrayed as.

Friend of mine had glandular fever in late 2019, took almost 9 months to get back to the gym and probably 6 months just not to feel tired and out of breath. Luckily we locked down the county so it could ever happen again.

I’m not saying that people who want to get vaccinated shouldn’t, just that the current mantra of ‘everyone should have the jab’ is borne out of hysteria.

Pretty sure I’ve had covid, so on a personal level not worried.

[anonymous-user]

survivalist said:

67Dino said:

survivalist said:

smn159 said:

survivalist said:

a large number of hysterical people are pushing for...etc

Strawman alert!

Hardly. If presented the graph below why would anyone under the age of 60 be seriously concerned? And that’s died with covid, rather than from covid.

BTW, not anti-vax. Just pointless-vax if you’re not at risk.

Two of my close work colleagues are unable to work with long Covid. One is mid 50s, the other mid 30s, neither had existing health conditions, both the last people to be malingerers. They didn’t die, they didn’t go to hospital, so they aren’t in the stats. They just had really bad Coronavirus and 6 months later haven’t yet got their full strength back.

I really hope you don’t get it Survivalist as for some people it’s not the mild flu it’s portrayed as.

Pretty sure I’ve had covid, so on a personal level not worried.

Having it once makes no difference to the risk or severity of catching ut again

[grumbledoak]

V6 Pushfit said:

Having it once makes no difference to the risk or severity of catching ut again

[isaldiri]

V6 Pushfit said:

Having it once makes no difference to the risk or severity of catching ut again

If you're correct....then there's rather little bloody point to getting vaccinated either is there....?

[sevensfun]

isaldiri said:

If you're correct....then there's rather little bloody point to getting vaccinated either is there....?

he's not.

[Ashfordian]

V6 Pushfit said:

survivalist said:

67Dino said:

survivalist said:

smn159 said:

survivalist said:

a large number of hysterical people are pushing for...etc

Strawman alert!

Hardly. If presented the graph below why would anyone under the age of 60 be seriously concerned? And that’s died with covid, rather than from covid.

BTW, not anti-vax. Just pointless-vax if you’re not at risk.

Two of my close work colleagues are unable to work with long Covid. One is mid 50s, the other mid 30s, neither had existing health conditions, both the last people to be malingerers. They didn’t die, they didn’t go to hospital, so they aren’t in the stats. They just had really bad Coronavirus and 6 months later haven’t yet got their full strength back.

I really hope you don’t get it Survivalist as for some people it’s not the mild flu it’s portrayed as.

Pretty sure I’ve had covid, so on a personal level not worried.

Having it once makes no difference to the risk or severity of catching ut again

And in one post you have just blown away the case for having the vaccine...

That's if you are correct, which you are not!

[anonymous-user]

Ashfordian said:

And in one post you have just blown away the case for having the vaccine...

Only if you take the post completely out of context, which seems to be the only way you can argue.

[bmwmike]

isaldiri said:

V6 Pushfit said:

Having it once makes no difference to the risk or severity of catching ut again

If you're correct....then there's rather little bloody point to getting vaccinated either is there....?

So are you saying anyone who had covid already doesnt need the vaccine because antibodies last forever?

[Prof Prolapse]

Genuine question, to those who don't see the point in younger people taking the vaccine.

What do you make of the huge increased in cases in the 25-44 age bracket this past week or so?

Also, what about the compounding fact that the majority of hospitalisations in the UK are also now in that age group?

Do you not think, on balance of probability, given the low risk presented by the vaccine in light of the above, it would be in your personal interests to take it?

[isaldiri]

bmwmike said:

isaldiri said:

V6 Pushfit said:

Having it once makes no difference to the risk or severity of catching ut again

If you're correct....then there's rather little bloody point to getting vaccinated either is there....?

So are you saying anyone who had covid already doesnt need the vaccine because antibodies last forever?

No I'm saying given the poster above has claimed infection recovery 'makes no difference to the risk or severity of re-infection', why would vaccination (that utilises the very same immune response to infection recovery) be any different.....