30 somethings - are you going to vax?
Discussion
gregs656 said:
Ok. I set a lower bar. Getting a viral infection is no joke and can easily wipe you out for a week or two. A jab to avoid that possibility seems like a good trade off to me.
If I could have taken a jab to avoid the illness and recovery period I experienced last year with glandular fever I absolutely would have done, even though I was at extremely low risk of being hospitalised and my crappy experience will never appear on official statistics.
Absolutely bang on.If I could have taken a jab to avoid the illness and recovery period I experienced last year with glandular fever I absolutely would have done, even though I was at extremely low risk of being hospitalised and my crappy experience will never appear on official statistics.
richelli said:
For me it’s a no. 42 male.
I tested positive for covid in January. I was ill but I have been worse with other illnesses in the past. My gf who lives with me didn’t catch it from me although we obviously live in close contact.
Looking at the NHS gov statistics, once you take out those with pre existing conditions, the number of deaths is very small and it wasn’t that big a percentage before they were removed so I don’t buy that I’m at more of a chance of dying if I don’t have a vaccine.
Yes I know they say there’s less chance of passing it on, but to be fair I wouldn’t believe much they say now.
If the vaccine had been long term tested and was out of the testing phase I might think about it just to cut down the chance of passing it on but the government and their scientists have lost my trust a long time ago. It’s time to go back to normality and just live with it until it’s just a memory like lots of other things.
Exactly this for me except I'm 45. Also I'd rather know that I've caught it again than have it masked to the point I think I'm ok and go and visit my (unwell) mother and pass it on to her. I tested positive for covid in January. I was ill but I have been worse with other illnesses in the past. My gf who lives with me didn’t catch it from me although we obviously live in close contact.
Looking at the NHS gov statistics, once you take out those with pre existing conditions, the number of deaths is very small and it wasn’t that big a percentage before they were removed so I don’t buy that I’m at more of a chance of dying if I don’t have a vaccine.
Yes I know they say there’s less chance of passing it on, but to be fair I wouldn’t believe much they say now.
If the vaccine had been long term tested and was out of the testing phase I might think about it just to cut down the chance of passing it on but the government and their scientists have lost my trust a long time ago. It’s time to go back to normality and just live with it until it’s just a memory like lots of other things.
Chicken_Satay said:
The travel aspect is just an excuse used by people who don't want to admit that they can't make their own decisions/calculate their own risks.
I've made my own decision and calculated my own risk, and it has done absolutely f
k all to change whether the country I want to go to on holiday will let me in.Prof Prolapse said:
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It's the same argument religious types use for the existence of a god. There's no evidence of it, so it can't be disproven, so it must exist. It's specious.
Every religious type I've ever spoken to says the complete opposite. They say "Jesus is proof of God, so is the Bible (or other holy book)". They literally claim such things as evidence of God's existence.It's the same argument religious types use for the existence of a god. There's no evidence of it, so it can't be disproven, so it must exist. It's specious.
I'm an atheist. I say "I reject your evidence, stories in old books mean nothing. The lack of evidence tells me there is no God. Nor are there ghosts, alien beings, or fairies in my garden."
As for covid vaccines: there is no evidence of long term effects because the long term hasn't happened yet. Hence the long term risk is unknown and that's the reason many people are hesitant about them.
davey83 said:
Same page completely - I don't want to be part of medical trails. If the vaccines were as safe as there being presented, the manufactures would retain liability for any adverse effects or worst but they don't.
Vaccine manufacturers
Under Regulation 345 of the 2012 Regulations, there is no civil liability for any loss or damage resulting from the use of a product in accordance with the recommendation or requirement applied to: (i) the holder of an authorisation for the product, (ii) the manufacturer of the product, or (iii) their officers, agents or employees.
This has been discussed several times. Vaccine manufacturers
Under Regulation 345 of the 2012 Regulations, there is no civil liability for any loss or damage resulting from the use of a product in accordance with the recommendation or requirement applied to: (i) the holder of an authorisation for the product, (ii) the manufacturer of the product, or (iii) their officers, agents or employees.
Edited by davey83 on Thursday 24th June 09:35
47, healthy, not had the vax.
I would rather take my chances with Covid than have a completely untested and rushed vaccine.
If people like me mean that you can't go on holiday this year, then cry me a river.
I had a bad cold a month ago which I just put down to a cold, but it went in a week. Reading about the Symptoms of the Delta variant it would appear I had every single one.
https://news.sky.com/story/delta-variant-symptoms-...
Oh well
I would rather take my chances with Covid than have a completely untested and rushed vaccine.
If people like me mean that you can't go on holiday this year, then cry me a river.
I had a bad cold a month ago which I just put down to a cold, but it went in a week. Reading about the Symptoms of the Delta variant it would appear I had every single one.
https://news.sky.com/story/delta-variant-symptoms-...
Oh well
Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 24th June 15:20
Christ, this kind of thread really winds me up. I can see how BV72, agtlaw and others must feel on the S,P&L forum when dealing with the amateur lawyers. While I can understand the thought processes that lead to the conclusion of 'it's my body and I'll do what I want' I'm afraid that I don't agree with it and I also don't sympathise with that point of view. COVD vaccinations aren't just there to stop you from dying from the current strains of the virus, they're there to help prevent you from suffering potentially life-changing long-term symptoms and they're also there to prevent you from being the individual that hosts a new mutation which turns out to be much more hazardous than the strains we currently have.
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