Any Docs (kidney stuff) can comment on results?

Any Docs (kidney stuff) can comment on results?

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Hugo Stiglitz

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37,105 posts

211 months

Tuesday 8th June 2021
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OK I had bloods done recently at the GP and they said nothing to worry about all in range....but I also had a look at the results in detail online through the patient login..


Serum creatinine (umo/l):
2010 70
2014 83
2016 93
2021 111

Serum alkaline phosphatase (u/l):
2010 59
2016 56
2021 85

Admittedly I had a few to drink the night before the bloods were taken and I only started drinking water whilst sat in the surgery waiting room. I also cycle quite a bit getting into the max heart rate zone but I've done this for years.

I see a trend though. Should I be worried. Should I request a retest when I'm hydrated?

elanfan

5,517 posts

227 months

Tuesday 8th June 2021
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All I can advise being someone on dialysis is do everything within your power to get your readings down and avoid kidney failure. Dialysis is awful!

AJB88

12,367 posts

171 months

Tuesday 8th June 2021
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Surely if you want proper readings you need to go in again without the alcohol in your system?

foiled

160 posts

70 months

Tuesday 8th June 2021
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A creatinine of 111 could be entirely normal or very abnormal.
We'd need you sex, age, weight and height to tell you more.

Or plug in the numbers yourself and report back your creatinine clearance https://www.mdcalc.com/creatinine-clearance-cockcr...

Hugo Stiglitz

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37,105 posts

211 months

Tuesday 8th June 2021
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186cm tall, 49 & 105kg.

Got this:

106 mL/min
Creatinine clearance, original Cockcroft-Gault
72 mL/min
Creatinine clearance modified for overweight patient, using adjusted body weight of 72 kg (158 lbs).
50.3–72.5 mL/min
Note: This range uses IBW and adjusted body weight. Controversy exists over which form of weight to use

I've no idea how to interpretate that


Hugo Stiglitz

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37,105 posts

211 months

Tuesday 8th June 2021
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AJB88 said:
Surely if you want proper readings you need to go in again without the alcohol in your system?
I said this to the GP and she wasn't concerned. Said its fine.

I'd like ammo to go back and ask for a retry.

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

261 months

Tuesday 8th June 2021
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Hugo Stiglitz said:
I said this to the GP and she wasn't concerned. Said its fine.

I'd like ammo to go back and ask for a retry.
If you have symptoms then the symptoms are your ammo.

If you haven't any symptoms, then with your readings in the normal range and the GP saying you're fine, you might have to accept that perhaps there's nothing to worry about.

Hugo Stiglitz

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37,105 posts

211 months

Tuesday 8th June 2021
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I have none of the symptoms but after a long bike ride (mountain or road) I'll reward myself with a good quantity of alcohol.

Plus during lockdown I've noticed my trouser waist size had increased. In part due to breaking my arm in December and whilst sat up at home for four weeks I drank abit.

Alcohol needs a bit of a readjustment.

bmwmike

6,937 posts

108 months

Wednesday 9th June 2021
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Not to derail at all but you sound similar to me in terms of watching the results - i have blood tests every year for medication reasons, and i watch the trends, also your age, activities and weight are similar to mine.

I've had a touch high BP recently and the GP asked me to track the results over a week and average them. Average came out at 141/92 and she said that was fine, nothing to worry about. Hmm, ok, well that seems high according to the NHS site. My average pulse is 50.

So like you, its down to ourselves to assess and interpret. I don't like my BP being that high so i'm making adjustments by reducing alcohol and cutting waistline down. I already exercise a lot.

When GP's say nothing to worry about, i tend to agree but in the frame of context of - nothing to worry about _right now_ - which isn't necessarily correct if one is tracking the trajectory and keeping an eye on the future.

Just my 2p.

Hugo Stiglitz

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37,105 posts

211 months

Wednesday 9th June 2021
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Yes common sense.

Im cutting down on beer. Beer always seems to disagree with me. I also need to lose the covid belly. My best weight is 16.5stone but over the past year it seems to have converted to fat.

foiled

160 posts

70 months

Wednesday 9th June 2021
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Hugo Stiglitz said:
186cm tall, 49 & 105kg.

Got this:

106 mL/min
Creatinine clearance, original Cockcroft-Gault
72 mL/min
Creatinine clearance modified for overweight patient, using adjusted body weight of 72 kg (158 lbs).
50.3–72.5 mL/min
Note: This range uses IBW and adjusted body weight. Controversy exists over which form of weight to use

I've no idea how to interpretate that
That's the femal tab, Hugo.
As long as your creatinine clearance is >90 MLS/min, which it is, that's normal.

Your alk phos results are within the normal range

NGRhodes

1,291 posts

72 months

Friday 11th June 2021
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elanfan said:
All I can advise being someone on dialysis is do everything within your power to get your readings down and avoid kidney failure. Dialysis is awful!
Side effects are awful too, saw my Aunty suffer. She had polycystic kidney disease same as myself. I have numerous side effects even with a decent kidney function level, too much to go into here without diverting the topic.

There are often plenty of lifestyle improvements that can be made around diet and exercise (there is loads of information available on the web)
For past few years my kidney function was around 70, 6 months ago I stopped drinking coffee (used to have a few cups of fresh coffee a day), and I had a blood test yesterday and my kidney function is up to 76, which is the highest its been since 2017.

croyde

22,843 posts

230 months

Friday 11th June 2021
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Isn't 70 good?

My son was in hospital with 370. He was released at 250. They said it should normally be 100.

NGRhodes

1,291 posts

72 months

Friday 11th June 2021
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croyde said:
Isn't 70 good?

My son was in hospital with 370. He was released at 250. They said it should normally be 100.
My figures are GFR filtration rates (https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/kidney-disease/diagnosis/)

croyde

22,843 posts

230 months

Friday 11th June 2021
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Ah thanks.

What am I quoting then? Got off his mum.

Hugo Stiglitz

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37,105 posts

211 months

Friday 11th June 2021
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Thanks for the replies. I'm having more bloods next week and a poo sample.

Any tips? I don't know if I can poo on demand. Poo in the morning, tupperwear and bring it in? laugh

sib8292

24 posts

171 months

Sunday 20th June 2021
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Just been looking at my latest blood test results on line, in prep for phone consultation with Guys hospital kidney consultant. Mine are post transplant 2 years ago.

Creatinine 137, eGFR 45.

Pretty much as last test 3 months ago, consultant will be happy with those.



bearman68

4,652 posts

132 months

Sunday 20th June 2021
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Right then, this is something I can comment on, because my wife is a senior consultant biochemist, and deals with this rubbish every day.

Creatnine is an unreliable marker of renal function, A creatine reading of around 60 - 120 would be considered normal. eGFR is a better measure with >90 being normal, this measure corrects for height and weight.

Normal range for Alkaline Phosphatase is 30 - 90. High Alk Pho will result in bone pain and may be associated Vit D deficiency or liver problems, though you would expect other liver enzymes to be abnormal, or the patient (you) show symptoms of jaundice.

Any questions, ask away. She loves this kind of stuff, and tends to be removed from it now, so will be happy to offer a very professional opinion.


bearman68

4,652 posts

132 months

Sunday 20th June 2021
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Oh, and while we're at it it's gamma GGT that increases with Alcohol consumption, not Alk Phos.

Seriously OP, if you have questions, please ask.

Hugo Stiglitz

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37,105 posts

211 months

Sunday 20th June 2021
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bearman68 said:
Oh, and while we're at it it's gamma GGT that increases with Alcohol consumption, not Alk Phos.

Seriously OP, if you have questions, please ask.
That's currently 31 iu\L apperently