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Starting day 4 today and the main thing I notice (placebo?) is that I feel I have a block/brick where my stomach is, below my chest.
It not uncomfortable, but possibly makes me feel like I’m full.
I still get hungry, but less often (I think) and while I still need food don’t desire it as much (I think).
It not uncomfortable, but possibly makes me feel like I’m full.
I still get hungry, but less often (I think) and while I still need food don’t desire it as much (I think).
Assuming no unknown harmful side effects, how amazing that these drugs are available to help people.
Yes we can all instead make huge changes to our diet and exercise to try and achieve the same results, but for some that can be difficult for various reasons and it can can seem such a massive uphill battle that it can sometimes be impossible to remain motivated enough to see it all the way through. Slip off the ladder and it can be hard to get back on.
I imagine those who see the benefits from losing weight will then be motivated and inspired to make some changes to maintain their new lifestyle, and those changes might then not need to be so huge.
Yes we can all instead make huge changes to our diet and exercise to try and achieve the same results, but for some that can be difficult for various reasons and it can can seem such a massive uphill battle that it can sometimes be impossible to remain motivated enough to see it all the way through. Slip off the ladder and it can be hard to get back on.
I imagine those who see the benefits from losing weight will then be motivated and inspired to make some changes to maintain their new lifestyle, and those changes might then not need to be so huge.
The Gauge said:
Assuming no unknown harmful side effects, how amazing that these drugs are available to help people.
Yes we can all instead make huge changes to our diet and exercise to try and achieve the same results, but for some that can be difficult for various reasons and it can can seem such a massive uphill battle that it can sometimes be impossible to remain motivated enough to see it all the way through. Slip off the ladder and it can be hard to get back on.
I imagine those who see the benefits from losing weight will then be motivated and inspired to make some changes to maintain their new lifestyle, and those changes might then not need to be so huge.
Good post and a sensible, balanced view...Yes we can all instead make huge changes to our diet and exercise to try and achieve the same results, but for some that can be difficult for various reasons and it can can seem such a massive uphill battle that it can sometimes be impossible to remain motivated enough to see it all the way through. Slip off the ladder and it can be hard to get back on.
I imagine those who see the benefits from losing weight will then be motivated and inspired to make some changes to maintain their new lifestyle, and those changes might then not need to be so huge.
The Gauge said:
Assuming no unknown harmful side effects, how amazing that these drugs are available to help people.
Yes we can all instead make huge changes to our diet and exercise to try and achieve the same results, but for some that can be difficult for various reasons and it can can seem such a massive uphill battle that it can sometimes be impossible to remain motivated enough to see it all the way through. Slip off the ladder and it can be hard to get back on.
I imagine those who see the benefits from losing weight will then be motivated and inspired to make some changes to maintain their new lifestyle, and those changes might then not need to be so huge.
Quality post as many of us have tried to lose weight many times and succeeded through strong dietary will power, exercise and all things good that perfect BMI 30 yr old gym bunnies wax lyrical about. We've been there - done that. But, sadly, it rarely stays all off and comes back with interest as we lost muscle and dropped metabolism; all our fault technically but aided by a thousand other societal, family and lifestyle things. Yes we can all instead make huge changes to our diet and exercise to try and achieve the same results, but for some that can be difficult for various reasons and it can can seem such a massive uphill battle that it can sometimes be impossible to remain motivated enough to see it all the way through. Slip off the ladder and it can be hard to get back on.
I imagine those who see the benefits from losing weight will then be motivated and inspired to make some changes to maintain their new lifestyle, and those changes might then not need to be so huge.
I don't know if these drugs are the answer as injecting yourself with relatively new drugs is quite a step. What I do know is that the status quo plus any preaching is a total and continuing failure for many million of us flawed humans. Our pesky built in operating system programming prejudices its own health - bit tragic really and bad software!
The Gauge said:
Assuming no unknown harmful side effects, how amazing that these drugs are available to help people.
Yes we can all instead make huge changes to our diet and exercise to try and achieve the same results, but for some that can be difficult for various reasons and it can can seem such a massive uphill battle that it can sometimes be impossible to remain motivated enough to see it all the way through. Slip off the ladder and it can be hard to get back on.
I imagine those who see the benefits from losing weight will then be motivated and inspired to make some changes to maintain their new lifestyle, and those changes might then not need to be so huge.
Even with the potential for unknown harmful side effects I think the benefit of these drugs bring far outweigh the negatives, clearly enough for the internal monologue of many people to deem it worthwhile, based on the current known side effects. Yes we can all instead make huge changes to our diet and exercise to try and achieve the same results, but for some that can be difficult for various reasons and it can can seem such a massive uphill battle that it can sometimes be impossible to remain motivated enough to see it all the way through. Slip off the ladder and it can be hard to get back on.
I imagine those who see the benefits from losing weight will then be motivated and inspired to make some changes to maintain their new lifestyle, and those changes might then not need to be so huge.
Chrisd83 said:
Chrisd83 said:
I’m having some challenges with medexpress, allowing me to have them, had to upload a new photograph. I made sure I wore a tighter top on this one!
Still struggling to get it approved, sent another photographtoday, the next one will be in my birthday suit!
Leithen said:
Chrisd83 said:
Chrisd83 said:
I’m having some challenges with medexpress, allowing me to have them, had to upload a new photograph. I made sure I wore a tighter top on this one!
Still struggling to get it approved, sent another photographtoday, the next one will be in my birthday suit!So 1 month on Mounjaro 2.5mg I've see weight loss of of 10lbs which considering Christmas and New Year I'm very happy with.
I've not experienced any issues or illness while been taking the injection, but I do notice that I'm not eating the same portion size I was prior to the injections
I have just received the 5mg dose this week.
I've not experienced any issues or illness while been taking the injection, but I do notice that I'm not eating the same portion size I was prior to the injections
I have just received the 5mg dose this week.
Meltham Terrier said:
So 1 month on Mounjaro 2.5mg I've see weight loss of of 10lbs which considering Christmas and New Year I'm very happy with.
I've not experienced any issues or illness while been taking the injection, but I do notice that I'm not eating the same portion size I was prior to the injections
I have just received the 5mg dose this week.
Excellent, great start! I've not experienced any issues or illness while been taking the injection, but I do notice that I'm not eating the same portion size I was prior to the injections
I have just received the 5mg dose this week.
I started this on 2nd January, and had my second dose yesterday. I've lost 9lbs, although a chunk of that is heavy bloating from excess drinking and food at New Years.
Same as you - not noticed anything in relation to symptoms or issues. I'm not sure it's done much, but it's so hard to tell. I am eating less, feel less hungry but that's happened before when I lost weight just as I start to clean up my diet and eat sensibly.
I'm probably going to buy the next dose over the weekend ready for two weeks time and will go for 5mg.
Like many others I just started (2.5mg Mounjaro from Asda online) this week and it does feel like a brick is in my stomach and finding not going for seconds/extra snacks.
I decided also that part of this experiment to get my BMI from 28.4 (14st 2lb) target closer 21 (pre 2020 Covid weight) I will cut out the booze as reading the blurb it may reduce its effects and tbh I have high B/P so will not do me any harm.
Also increasing slowly my exercise to few 30min jogs a week (maybe even a 10k!) as well as my usual 1hour daily dog walks.
Its far too early doors to draw conclusions (initial is good though) but I will check back in a few months to share my experiences good/bad and look forward to hearing from other a bit further down the road.
I am very mindful that at almost 50 now and spent most of my adult life battling with weight issues the hard part is keeping it off long-term so particularly keen on hearing about anyone doing it long-term / or stopping the treatment has it changed your behaviour.
I decided also that part of this experiment to get my BMI from 28.4 (14st 2lb) target closer 21 (pre 2020 Covid weight) I will cut out the booze as reading the blurb it may reduce its effects and tbh I have high B/P so will not do me any harm.
Also increasing slowly my exercise to few 30min jogs a week (maybe even a 10k!) as well as my usual 1hour daily dog walks.
Its far too early doors to draw conclusions (initial is good though) but I will check back in a few months to share my experiences good/bad and look forward to hearing from other a bit further down the road.
I am very mindful that at almost 50 now and spent most of my adult life battling with weight issues the hard part is keeping it off long-term so particularly keen on hearing about anyone doing it long-term / or stopping the treatment has it changed your behaviour.
BobSaunders said:
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Have signed up today through a well known online pharmacy.
I am a multi ironman 70.3 and 140.6 athlete. Multi-endurance ultra cyclist. I am currently training for a 100km ultra run next year. I am what people refer to as mentally strong willed and resillient. I can run a half marathon or marathon right now without trepidation. Exercise makes me happy, it is my stress relief.
I am over 15 stone, i have depression, i commute long distances, i have a highly stressful job, i work long hours, i have high blood pressure, i am at risk of heart attack (genetic), i have asthama, and i have two young children and a wife who has a successful career. I am 42.
My diet and alchol consumption is horrendous, all driven through depression, stress, and lack of avaliable time. The more i train the more i eat, the more stress i take on the more i eat and drink for comfort, the more compressed i am for time i reach for processed food . The heavier i get the less i exercise or struggle to exercise, the heavier and unhealthier i get the more my depression is triggered which then creates food binges - all of this pushes my blood pressure up and risk of heart attack up.
I am 43 in the next week. I have taken a decision today to make a change in my life by accepting that i need help.
Let's see what happens.
Turned up today. Havent had the time or the balls to open up the package yet. Very excited, but also really scared of the needle.I am a multi ironman 70.3 and 140.6 athlete. Multi-endurance ultra cyclist. I am currently training for a 100km ultra run next year. I am what people refer to as mentally strong willed and resillient. I can run a half marathon or marathon right now without trepidation. Exercise makes me happy, it is my stress relief.
I am over 15 stone, i have depression, i commute long distances, i have a highly stressful job, i work long hours, i have high blood pressure, i am at risk of heart attack (genetic), i have asthama, and i have two young children and a wife who has a successful career. I am 42.
My diet and alchol consumption is horrendous, all driven through depression, stress, and lack of avaliable time. The more i train the more i eat, the more stress i take on the more i eat and drink for comfort, the more compressed i am for time i reach for processed food . The heavier i get the less i exercise or struggle to exercise, the heavier and unhealthier i get the more my depression is triggered which then creates food binges - all of this pushes my blood pressure up and risk of heart attack up.
I am 43 in the next week. I have taken a decision today to make a change in my life by accepting that i need help.
Let's see what happens.
Also thinking if i start, am i going to ruin xmas dinner when i only have four bites of a turkey.
Five hours on; Injection site is a little itchy. Food suppression is massive. Would have been tearing into the dinner I’ve made for the kids but I have no interest, and no interest in the dinner I’m making for myself as well.
Going to try and eat something and then run later on the running machine.
Game changer.
Plain-ish chicken salad for dinner last night. Just a small bowl. Destroyed 4 chicken breasts. Had a large glass of malbec across the evening, would have destroyed the bottle.
Chappuccino and Porridge for breakfast, said no to the chocolate croissant chaser and the honey on the porridge.
Lunch was a fish finger wrap with salad. Had a cheeky couple of leftover fish fingers from the kids plates - without the bread. Would have destroyed two fish finger wraps covered in nandos sauce plus what was left of the kids food. Would have also picked at food all afternoon - cake etc.
Ran for 30 minutes on thre treadmill and burnt 500+ calories at 10 minute miles.
Got dinner for tonight - vegetables & potatoes and beef bourguignon. Normally would have been pizza or something. Ignored he kids dinner - pizza etc. Would have detroyed that. Didn't get pudding or dips snacks before. Would have destroyed a bag of crisps with a tub of hummous. Likely would have also destroyed a bottle of wine this evening as well - not particulary interested in it, but the wife want's a glass of prossecco with dinner later so will share one with her.
Weighing several times a day and taking blood pressure. 132/94 blood pressure, 14st 11.4lb's this evening before dinner. Energy levels seems fine.
Edited by BobSaunders on Saturday 7th December 19:19
I suspect this is all water weight so far. I'm tracking body fat % rather than weight per se.
I've had two nights "out" over the week which involved bigger meals and a couple of glasses of wine.
I've no side effects, just outright muted need for food and booze.
I slipped yesterday and ended up eating two chicken pittas in one sitting. I was most likely at my lowest dose at that point in my body. It was only half way through the second pitta i realised what i was doing.. Still finished it tho. Long way to go in terms of managing volume - but understandable as it is only week 3 of eating less.
Two pints of beer this week, it's a proper killer in terms of calories intake!
Now down to 14st 0.5lbs. 72.4% muscle, 23.8% fat.
I'm tracking calorie and macro intake via the myplanner app. Just means i can make informed choices. Want to reduce to 15% bodyfat. Based on my maths that is going to be around 13stone ish. Maintaining zone two training so as not to burn muscle.
I've only had one dizzy spell a week ago with a hot flush, that was because i had not eaten in the morning due to getting an early train to work and it was mid-morning and was busy with stressful meetings. I had a Huel black and was then fine not long after.
Supplementing with multi-vitamin tablets and varying my diet to ensure i get what i need into my body.
Edited by BobSaunders on Saturday 21st December 09:18
Christmas dinner was restrained-ish, but i made sure that i enjoyed myself for xmas day and boxing day - which was my main concern around starting in December.
5mg ordered for delivery next week.
Will be giving up alcohol on 1st January until May to help with training and weightloss as i start training properly for my ultra run. As i move to 5mg i am excited about the prospect of getting back to being me again. Also starting to look at Ironman 70.3 again, which 2-3 months ago would have been an impossible task for 2025.
Moved to 5mg and injected on Wednesday 01/01/25. Basically 2.5mg was no longer effective for me, my body had adapted. Today 02/01/25 5mg is already noticeable in terms of zero hunger. I've stopped drinking for the next four months and just starting on my new exercise plan.
Edited to add - Just over a month now on it - 1st 1.6lb loss in total. 14st 12lbs on 6th December on date of first injection. I weighed 1st December at 15st 0.9lbs.
Edited by BobSaunders on Monday 6th January 21:39
Edited by BobSaunders on Friday 10th January 19:52
BobSaunders said:
BobSaunders said:
BobSaunders said:
BobSaunders said:
BobSaunders said:
BobSaunders said:
BobSaunders said:
BobSaunders said:
BobSaunders said:
BobSaunders said:
Have signed up today through a well known online pharmacy.
I am a multi ironman 70.3 and 140.6 athlete. Multi-endurance ultra cyclist. I am currently training for a 100km ultra run next year. I am what people refer to as mentally strong willed and resillient. I can run a half marathon or marathon right now without trepidation. Exercise makes me happy, it is my stress relief.
I am over 15 stone, i have depression, i commute long distances, i have a highly stressful job, i work long hours, i have high blood pressure, i am at risk of heart attack (genetic), i have asthama, and i have two young children and a wife who has a successful career. I am 42.
My diet and alchol consumption is horrendous, all driven through depression, stress, and lack of avaliable time. The more i train the more i eat, the more stress i take on the more i eat and drink for comfort, the more compressed i am for time i reach for processed food . The heavier i get the less i exercise or struggle to exercise, the heavier and unhealthier i get the more my depression is triggered which then creates food binges - all of this pushes my blood pressure up and risk of heart attack up.
I am 43 in the next week. I have taken a decision today to make a change in my life by accepting that i need help.
Let's see what happens.
Turned up today. Havent had the time or the balls to open up the package yet. Very excited, but also really scared of the needle.I am a multi ironman 70.3 and 140.6 athlete. Multi-endurance ultra cyclist. I am currently training for a 100km ultra run next year. I am what people refer to as mentally strong willed and resillient. I can run a half marathon or marathon right now without trepidation. Exercise makes me happy, it is my stress relief.
I am over 15 stone, i have depression, i commute long distances, i have a highly stressful job, i work long hours, i have high blood pressure, i am at risk of heart attack (genetic), i have asthama, and i have two young children and a wife who has a successful career. I am 42.
My diet and alchol consumption is horrendous, all driven through depression, stress, and lack of avaliable time. The more i train the more i eat, the more stress i take on the more i eat and drink for comfort, the more compressed i am for time i reach for processed food . The heavier i get the less i exercise or struggle to exercise, the heavier and unhealthier i get the more my depression is triggered which then creates food binges - all of this pushes my blood pressure up and risk of heart attack up.
I am 43 in the next week. I have taken a decision today to make a change in my life by accepting that i need help.
Let's see what happens.
Also thinking if i start, am i going to ruin xmas dinner when i only have four bites of a turkey.
Five hours on; Injection site is a little itchy. Food suppression is massive. Would have been tearing into the dinner I’ve made for the kids but I have no interest, and no interest in the dinner I’m making for myself as well.
Going to try and eat something and then run later on the running machine.
Game changer.
Plain-ish chicken salad for dinner last night. Just a small bowl. Destroyed 4 chicken breasts. Had a large glass of malbec across the evening, would have destroyed the bottle.
Chappuccino and Porridge for breakfast, said no to the chocolate croissant chaser and the honey on the porridge.
Lunch was a fish finger wrap with salad. Had a cheeky couple of leftover fish fingers from the kids plates - without the bread. Would have destroyed two fish finger wraps covered in nandos sauce plus what was left of the kids food. Would have also picked at food all afternoon - cake etc.
Ran for 30 minutes on thre treadmill and burnt 500+ calories at 10 minute miles.
Got dinner for tonight - vegetables & potatoes and beef bourguignon. Normally would have been pizza or something. Ignored he kids dinner - pizza etc. Would have detroyed that. Didn't get pudding or dips snacks before. Would have destroyed a bag of crisps with a tub of hummous. Likely would have also destroyed a bottle of wine this evening as well - not particulary interested in it, but the wife want's a glass of prossecco with dinner later so will share one with her.
Weighing several times a day and taking blood pressure. 132/94 blood pressure, 14st 11.4lb's this evening before dinner. Energy levels seems fine.
Edited by BobSaunders on Saturday 7th December 19:19
I suspect this is all water weight so far. I'm tracking body fat % rather than weight per se.
I've had two nights "out" over the week which involved bigger meals and a couple of glasses of wine.
I've no side effects, just outright muted need for food and booze.
I slipped yesterday and ended up eating two chicken pittas in one sitting. I was most likely at my lowest dose at that point in my body. It was only half way through the second pitta i realised what i was doing.. Still finished it tho. Long way to go in terms of managing volume - but understandable as it is only week 3 of eating less.
Two pints of beer this week, it's a proper killer in terms of calories intake!
Now down to 14st 0.5lbs. 72.4% muscle, 23.8% fat.
I'm tracking calorie and macro intake via the myplanner app. Just means i can make informed choices. Want to reduce to 15% bodyfat. Based on my maths that is going to be around 13stone ish. Maintaining zone two training so as not to burn muscle.
I've only had one dizzy spell a week ago with a hot flush, that was because i had not eaten in the morning due to getting an early train to work and it was mid-morning and was busy with stressful meetings. I had a Huel black and was then fine not long after.
Supplementing with multi-vitamin tablets and varying my diet to ensure i get what i need into my body.
Edited by BobSaunders on Saturday 21st December 09:18
Christmas dinner was restrained-ish, but i made sure that i enjoyed myself for xmas day and boxing day - which was my main concern around starting in December.
5mg ordered for delivery next week.
Will be giving up alcohol on 1st January until May to help with training and weightloss as i start training properly for my ultra run. As i move to 5mg i am excited about the prospect of getting back to being me again. Also starting to look at Ironman 70.3 again, which 2-3 months ago would have been an impossible task for 2025.
Moved to 5mg and injected on Wednesday 01/01/25. Basically 2.5mg was no longer effective for me, my body had adapted. Today 02/01/25 5mg is already noticeable in terms of zero hunger. I've stopped drinking for the next four months and just starting on my new exercise plan.
Edited to add - Just over a month now on it - 1st 1.6lb loss in total. 14st 12lbs on 6th December on date of first injection. I weighed 1st December at 15st 0.9lbs.
Edited by BobSaunders on Monday 6th January 21:39
Edited by BobSaunders on Friday 10th January 19:52
WestyCarl said:
StoutBench said:
22% body fat is classed as lean, abs would start to be visible at 20-21%. Does that sound right? Surprised anyone would be able to supply the jabs at that body fat percentage.
You need to be about 10% to have visible abs.As I said you'd start to see abs. At 10% you'd have very visible abs and obliques
Went to have coffee with my partners uncle and auntie a few days ago. They have both just signed up to these injections although have not started them yet.
During coffee they both ate several biscuits and chocolates as they both have zero will power.
They are the sort of people who would never diet as they love eating so much, I think they both think these injections will be a miracle cure with no effort required on their part.
During coffee they both ate several biscuits and chocolates as they both have zero will power.
They are the sort of people who would never diet as they love eating so much, I think they both think these injections will be a miracle cure with no effort required on their part.
Really am tempted by this just to kick start weight loss again, in the past I have been able to compete (BJJ/Swimming) by sticking to a high protein diet and watching my macros etc, but having a 2.5 year old now really has restricted that and found myself balooning to 104kg (used to compete at 79-82kg)
Dont want to be on it long term, also got honeymoon in Bali in March so want to be off it by then.
Dont want to be on it long term, also got honeymoon in Bali in March so want to be off it by then.
I'm about to pull the trigger at Med express but I'm getting cold feet. Costs and side effects and the fact I've never injected myself!
I can probably lost a stone and a half on my own but it just comes back on again plus more. I was 14 stone after uni and I want to get back to that, I'm over 20 stone now 10 years later and it's unacceptable.
I can probably lost a stone and a half on my own but it just comes back on again plus more. I was 14 stone after uni and I want to get back to that, I'm over 20 stone now 10 years later and it's unacceptable.
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