Wegovy Anti-chubster injection-pen things
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The Gauge said:
There’s an article in today’s The Times reporting that Saville Row tailors are busier than ever altering customers bespoke suits to accommodate their massive weight losses, with some alterations being impossible due to the amount of altering needed.
Good work for them with one tailor stating these alterations might typically cost the customer £1,600 however the sheer volume of work is preventing them taking on new commissions, and with some altered suits no longer being regarded as bespoke as there is only so much they can do.
They're looking forward to another wave of business when everyone comes off the jabs too!Good work for them with one tailor stating these alterations might typically cost the customer £1,600 however the sheer volume of work is preventing them taking on new commissions, and with some altered suits no longer being regarded as bespoke as there is only so much they can do.
Special offer - 3 months of Mounjaro with any £5k suit.
After putting it off for a while because I hadn't told my wife I had got the jab, I'm going to do my first tonight.
She is interested but apprehensive and is looking at the patches that we've seen advertised. Does anyone have experience with them? Berberine I think is the ingredient. Might be a bit snake oil.
Anyway, I weighed a scarcely believable 21 stone zero pounds yesterday morning. A whole stone more than I was expecting. Wish me luck!
P.S. I never tell anyone my weight so feel honoured
She is interested but apprehensive and is looking at the patches that we've seen advertised. Does anyone have experience with them? Berberine I think is the ingredient. Might be a bit snake oil.
Anyway, I weighed a scarcely believable 21 stone zero pounds yesterday morning. A whole stone more than I was expecting. Wish me luck!
P.S. I never tell anyone my weight so feel honoured
BigGingerBob said:
After putting it off for a while because I hadn't told my wife I had got the jab, I'm going to do my first tonight.
She is interested but apprehensive and is looking at the patches that we've seen advertised. Does anyone have experience with them? Berberine I think is the ingredient. Might be a bit snake oil.
Anyway, I weighed a scarcely believable 21 stone zero pounds yesterday morning. A whole stone more than I was expecting. Wish me luck!
P.S. I never tell anyone my weight so feel honoured
Good luck! I look forward to seeing your username change in a few months...She is interested but apprehensive and is looking at the patches that we've seen advertised. Does anyone have experience with them? Berberine I think is the ingredient. Might be a bit snake oil.
Anyway, I weighed a scarcely believable 21 stone zero pounds yesterday morning. A whole stone more than I was expecting. Wish me luck!
P.S. I never tell anyone my weight so feel honoured
I took 2.5mg Mounjaro yesterday after about 5 weeks off, having been on 5mg previously. I'm feeling barely any effect so must still have some tolerance in my system. I have a 5mg pen so will likely increase to 3.75mg next week then back up to 5mg afterwards.
I'm only looking to lose my Christmas weight and not much more as other than a couple of (very) indulgent weeks, I have been able to maintain by eating better and going to the gym. There has definitely been a mindset change but at the same time, when you have this tool available, it feels like a waste of time taking 3 times as long to lose weight than without it.
I have completed my first week on mounjaro, lost 3.5kg which I'm happy with. Never felt hungry during the week and had to make myself eat even though I didn't want to. When I have eaten during the day it has been either a bit of fruit or a small bag of fridge raiders chicken bites. Evening meal portion has reduced right down.
I'm hoping that I can improve my eating habits as it seems that a lot of people lose weight on a diet and then go back to old ways, regaining all the weight which they lost. I work 12 hour shifts, nearly all of it is sat observing a bank of 10 screens so that doesn't help. Especially when I'm a weak willed chubster!
I'm hoping that I can improve my eating habits as it seems that a lot of people lose weight on a diet and then go back to old ways, regaining all the weight which they lost. I work 12 hour shifts, nearly all of it is sat observing a bank of 10 screens so that doesn't help. Especially when I'm a weak willed chubster!
GaRog said:
I have completed my first week on mounjaro, lost 3.5kg which I'm happy with. Never felt hungry during the week and had to make myself eat even though I didn't want to. When I have eaten during the day it has been either a bit of fruit or a small bag of fridge raiders chicken bites. Evening meal portion has reduced right down.
I'm hoping that I can improve my eating habits as it seems that a lot of people lose weight on a diet and then go back to old ways, regaining all the weight which they lost. I work 12 hour shifts, nearly all of it is sat observing a bank of 10 screens so that doesn't help. Especially when I'm a weak willed chubster!
3.5kg in a week! Bosh!I'm hoping that I can improve my eating habits as it seems that a lot of people lose weight on a diet and then go back to old ways, regaining all the weight which they lost. I work 12 hour shifts, nearly all of it is sat observing a bank of 10 screens so that doesn't help. Especially when I'm a weak willed chubster!
Been on this since May last year. Initially saw significant weight loss in a short period, but the losses rapidly slowed down to a ‘normal’ amount you’d see from calorie controlled diet.
I started it mainly to kick start a weight loss regime, enact healthy eating choices. The reasoning being if I saw progress; it would encourage healthy eating and to be more active. Thought it would help with portion control, and teach me how much food I should be eating.
It did this to a degree, but it’s not the magic bullet everyone thinks.
I came off it for several weeks, and a scary amount of weight gain happened within days. All the talk about food noise going away? Yeah I had that. When you stop taking it, it comes straight back, with a vengeance.
I used to love going to the gym, about 5 years ago. Life started getting in the way and I got fat. Gym wasn’t high on a list of priorities. With these jabs, gym is even less of a priority. If you’re seeing losses without having to drag yourself out every couple of days, it’s very easy to slip into the mindset of ‘I’ve lost a few lbs this week without the gym; I’ll just go next week, I’ve made progress”
If you have issues around not exercising enough, and you have trouble controlling diet, then in the long term this drug isn’t for you. It doesn’t get to the root of this issue, and as soon as you stop taking it, you will put the weight back on.
Just my 2p worth having spent a fair few pennies on them. Used MedExpress for my prescriptions, the max dose gets expensive with postage included (£225 per four weeks).
I started it mainly to kick start a weight loss regime, enact healthy eating choices. The reasoning being if I saw progress; it would encourage healthy eating and to be more active. Thought it would help with portion control, and teach me how much food I should be eating.
It did this to a degree, but it’s not the magic bullet everyone thinks.
I came off it for several weeks, and a scary amount of weight gain happened within days. All the talk about food noise going away? Yeah I had that. When you stop taking it, it comes straight back, with a vengeance.
I used to love going to the gym, about 5 years ago. Life started getting in the way and I got fat. Gym wasn’t high on a list of priorities. With these jabs, gym is even less of a priority. If you’re seeing losses without having to drag yourself out every couple of days, it’s very easy to slip into the mindset of ‘I’ve lost a few lbs this week without the gym; I’ll just go next week, I’ve made progress”
If you have issues around not exercising enough, and you have trouble controlling diet, then in the long term this drug isn’t for you. It doesn’t get to the root of this issue, and as soon as you stop taking it, you will put the weight back on.
Just my 2p worth having spent a fair few pennies on them. Used MedExpress for my prescriptions, the max dose gets expensive with postage included (£225 per four weeks).
Following with interest. I have am American friend who keeps telling me I should start on one of these things, but I decided to try and do it with willpower alone. I'd been told by my doctor that I was borderline pre-diabetic (whatever that means exactly) and it took me a while for it to sink in.
At the end of July I started really being careful with what I ate, drastically reducing my portion sizes, cutting out non-essential carbs like sugar, potatoes, bread and pasta and reducing my intake of fruits which I do like a lot. Since then I've lost almost exactly 15Kg, but the rate of change is definitely slowing down.
I spent most of November on an expensive gastronomic tour of Japan, and despite that still managed to come back a little less heavy that I was when I went out. I love sushi but was careful to really limit my intake to just the very best Omakase-style restaurants and stayed away from the conveyor belt stuff. I also made sure I didn't have ramen more than a couple of times a week and had plenty of carb-free meats and fish at various izakayas and yakiniku restaurants. It's so much easier to eat out and stay low carb in Japan despite how much they love noodles and rice! But part of the trick was that Japan is so insanely photogenic that I came back with 8500 photos and all of those needed plenty of walking to make. Over the month I was averaging about 10 miles a day with my high of 16 miles in one day. Normally I average about 3-4 miles a week, so this increase in calorie burn was certainly very helpful.
Now that I'm back I got a pat on the back from my doctor who told me that my last blood test shows a completely normal HbA1c and that I'm no longer pre-diabetic, but that my cholseterol is still too high. I have quite a bit of cheese in my diet, although at home I only eat meat a couple of times a week and stick to fish and chicken otherwise.
Despite losing 15Kg, I still need to lose another 30Kg to put me in the middle of the normal BMI range. So I absolutely can't let up and am determined to go as far as I can with willpower alone. I found that the first few days were the hardest and that the food noise that people mention sort of goes away once you get used to eating much smaller portions and eliminating added sugar from my diet entirely. I have a supermarket curry the other day, but it was so ridiculously sweet that I had to throw it away after one mouthful. I don't remember it tasting like that before! It's impossible to completely eliminate sugars as even the most innocuous foods contain them. At least I can still eat eggs and bacon from time to time!
But the time may come when the weight loss really slows down and I may need a bit of help. My doctor won't prescribe one of the jabs as he thinks I can do it without. So I'll have to pay out of pocket. No problem there if it becomes necessary.
Did any of you make a concerted effort to lose weight the natural way before starting on injections or did you go straight for the needle? How long did you hold out before you couldn't lose weight without help? Was it just a matter of fading willpower, or were you working just as hard at it without results? Very interested...
At the end of July I started really being careful with what I ate, drastically reducing my portion sizes, cutting out non-essential carbs like sugar, potatoes, bread and pasta and reducing my intake of fruits which I do like a lot. Since then I've lost almost exactly 15Kg, but the rate of change is definitely slowing down.
I spent most of November on an expensive gastronomic tour of Japan, and despite that still managed to come back a little less heavy that I was when I went out. I love sushi but was careful to really limit my intake to just the very best Omakase-style restaurants and stayed away from the conveyor belt stuff. I also made sure I didn't have ramen more than a couple of times a week and had plenty of carb-free meats and fish at various izakayas and yakiniku restaurants. It's so much easier to eat out and stay low carb in Japan despite how much they love noodles and rice! But part of the trick was that Japan is so insanely photogenic that I came back with 8500 photos and all of those needed plenty of walking to make. Over the month I was averaging about 10 miles a day with my high of 16 miles in one day. Normally I average about 3-4 miles a week, so this increase in calorie burn was certainly very helpful.
Now that I'm back I got a pat on the back from my doctor who told me that my last blood test shows a completely normal HbA1c and that I'm no longer pre-diabetic, but that my cholseterol is still too high. I have quite a bit of cheese in my diet, although at home I only eat meat a couple of times a week and stick to fish and chicken otherwise.
Despite losing 15Kg, I still need to lose another 30Kg to put me in the middle of the normal BMI range. So I absolutely can't let up and am determined to go as far as I can with willpower alone. I found that the first few days were the hardest and that the food noise that people mention sort of goes away once you get used to eating much smaller portions and eliminating added sugar from my diet entirely. I have a supermarket curry the other day, but it was so ridiculously sweet that I had to throw it away after one mouthful. I don't remember it tasting like that before! It's impossible to completely eliminate sugars as even the most innocuous foods contain them. At least I can still eat eggs and bacon from time to time!
But the time may come when the weight loss really slows down and I may need a bit of help. My doctor won't prescribe one of the jabs as he thinks I can do it without. So I'll have to pay out of pocket. No problem there if it becomes necessary.
Did any of you make a concerted effort to lose weight the natural way before starting on injections or did you go straight for the needle? How long did you hold out before you couldn't lose weight without help? Was it just a matter of fading willpower, or were you working just as hard at it without results? Very interested...
Regarding the poster above. I've tried on and off for years. Went from 119kg to 103kg using huel and exercise in 2023, but couldn't kick the eating junk thing. It was very hard work.
Having since started Mounjaro last Tuesday (9 days ago) l've gone from 107.2kg the Friday before, to 103.9kg today (That's 16st5 from 16st12)
I've been doing the same as before, but finding it significantly easier to stay in my calorie allowance. I'm using huel, good food and exercise again, but this time I'm not have that extra bit of food to take me up to my calorie limit. I can very easily ignore chocolate etc, whereas before that was still very much incorporated in my daily allowance.
Having since started Mounjaro last Tuesday (9 days ago) l've gone from 107.2kg the Friday before, to 103.9kg today (That's 16st5 from 16st12)
I've been doing the same as before, but finding it significantly easier to stay in my calorie allowance. I'm using huel, good food and exercise again, but this time I'm not have that extra bit of food to take me up to my calorie limit. I can very easily ignore chocolate etc, whereas before that was still very much incorporated in my daily allowance.
LunarOne said:
Did any of you make a concerted effort to lose weight the natural way before starting on injections or did you go straight for the needle? How long did you hold out before you couldn't lose weight without help? Was it just a matter of fading willpower, or were you working just as hard at it without results? Very interested...
I've struggled with weight for the last 20 years. I used to be able to eat anything and didn't have any issues. I have tried Slimming World, calories counting, meal replacement with limited success. I tend to lose in the beginning and then stall. I did lose a stone during the first covid lockdown which shows my problem is social eating.
Recently I signed up for the Zoe program. I includes testing of blood, poo and wearing a blood sugar monitor for two weeks. After, you follow an food app to encourage healthy eating. The app is quite strange. Whole milk scores slightly better than skimmed and dark chocolate is allowed.
I have lost about three pounds so far, however I have seen improvements in my IBS despite eating loads of vegetables which I used to avoid. Also the food noise is decreasing.
I am hoping that this will be a good plan for me and will avoid having to resort to the jabs.
Keep it up LunarOne, as you can do it on willpower, all of it. I've no idea what i'm on about, but maybe try and make walking the focus, and not so much the food. Of course you'll want to keep an eye on that, but the thing i bet thats changed the most is you're not walking 10 miles a day back at home. can you take a portion of time in your day to get out? 30 mins even?
also, would it be fair to say you ate much less processed food in japan? I am no saint, but one strategy I heard and liked, was if you don't recognise the ingredints on the packet, try to avoid it. Obviously thats not always possible, but at least you can control when you're cheating a bit? also helps me eat better. cereal bars are a good example, the cheap ones are stuffed full of junk, and the best are made with much better ingredients.
If you feel like trying the pens, then go for it, but my feeling is to treat them like a slimfast shake, if you're prepared to drink them for life then thats fine, but if you want to stop and haven't made any lasting changes to exercise, and/or diet, then you will revert to before.
Have you checked out the "rebooting your life thread"? It's pretty inspiring!
also, would it be fair to say you ate much less processed food in japan? I am no saint, but one strategy I heard and liked, was if you don't recognise the ingredints on the packet, try to avoid it. Obviously thats not always possible, but at least you can control when you're cheating a bit? also helps me eat better. cereal bars are a good example, the cheap ones are stuffed full of junk, and the best are made with much better ingredients.
If you feel like trying the pens, then go for it, but my feeling is to treat them like a slimfast shake, if you're prepared to drink them for life then thats fine, but if you want to stop and haven't made any lasting changes to exercise, and/or diet, then you will revert to before.
Have you checked out the "rebooting your life thread"? It's pretty inspiring!
Shappers24 said:
I came off it for several weeks, and a scary amount of weight gain happened within days. All the talk about food noise going away? Yeah I had that. When you stop taking it, it comes straight back, with a vengeance.
This is the well documented downside. Use the jabs to help build healthy habits not as a cure.
Badda said:
Shappers24 said:
I came off it for several weeks, and a scary amount of weight gain happened within days. All the talk about food noise going away? Yeah I had that. When you stop taking it, it comes straight back, with a vengeance.
This is the well documented downside. Use the jabs to help build healthy habits not as a cure.
I had my first jab yesterday morning and I do still get hungry but it's not all consuming like it was the day before. I made a smaller lunch than usual and made it a salad which I ate and was satisfied. I didn't go to the shop for crisps or chocolate.
I feel like I ate like a normal person yesterday which was great, a massive improvement on before.
I am also worried about the increasing costs as time goes on. £150 a month I can handle as it offsets the £5-6 a day I was spending in Tesco that I won't be spending going forward.
BigGingerBob said:
This is my worry for sure, people on here come off by doing a low dose every 2 weeks or so with some success.
I had my first jab yesterday morning and I do still get hungry but it's not all consuming like it was the day before. I made a smaller lunch than usual and made it a salad which I ate and was satisfied. I didn't go to the shop for crisps or chocolate.
I feel like I ate like a normal person yesterday which was great, a massive improvement on before.
I am also worried about the increasing costs as time goes on. £150 a month I can handle as it offsets the £5-6 a day I was spending in Tesco that I won't be spending going forward.
I've just had my 4th jab on 2.5mg. I had my first jab yesterday morning and I do still get hungry but it's not all consuming like it was the day before. I made a smaller lunch than usual and made it a salad which I ate and was satisfied. I didn't go to the shop for crisps or chocolate.
I feel like I ate like a normal person yesterday which was great, a massive improvement on before.
I am also worried about the increasing costs as time goes on. £150 a month I can handle as it offsets the £5-6 a day I was spending in Tesco that I won't be spending going forward.
I found that the first 4-5 days nothing really changed in my hunger levels, body or mindset. I ate well and moved a lot as I was really motivated. After about 5 days or similar, I did notice hunger levels plummet. To the point that sometimes eating was quite hard.
It's weird to describe there I didn't get hungry, although could tell I needed to eat as my stomach felt empty.
I use TheSlimmingClinic and it's £100-ish for the 2.5mg pen after a discount. They text me a few times a week with discount codes.
Here's a price comparison site to find the best deals:
https://monj.co.uk/discount-mounjaro-price-list/
Badda said:
Shappers24 said:
I came off it for several weeks, and a scary amount of weight gain happened within days. All the talk about food noise going away? Yeah I had that. When you stop taking it, it comes straight back, with a vengeance.
This is the well documented downside. Use the jabs to help build healthy habits not as a cure.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1428686...
As I said earlier in this thread I know three people on these now who are all in their 60s and none of them have any willpower or desire to do any exercise at all. Two of them are a married couple who whenever I see them are constantly stuffing their faces with rubbish. We went over to their house for a coffee and they bring out cakes and chocolates. We went out for a coffee at 11am and they wanted to get a piece of cake to go with it.
I know if they manage to lose any weight with these jabs they will put it all back on the second they stop as they just cannot stop themselves eating.
The other person wasn't that over weight and went on these injections for three months. They came off them at Christmas and put on 2.5KG in under two weeks and are desperate to get back on them.
I suspect unless people are on these for life they will just put it all back on.
ThingsBehindTheSun said:
Badda said:
Shappers24 said:
I came off it for several weeks, and a scary amount of weight gain happened within days. All the talk about food noise going away? Yeah I had that. When you stop taking it, it comes straight back, with a vengeance.
This is the well documented downside. Use the jabs to help build healthy habits not as a cure.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1428686...
As I said earlier in this thread I know three people on these now who are all in their 60s and none of them have any willpower or desire to do any exercise at all. Two of them are a married couple who whenever I see them are constantly stuffing their faces with rubbish. We went over to their house for a coffee and they bring out cakes and chocolates. We went out for a coffee at 11am and they wanted to get a piece of cake to go with it.
I know if they manage to lose any weight with these jabs they will put it all back on the second they stop as they just cannot stop themselves eating.
The other person wasn't that over weight and went on these injections for three months. They came off them at Christmas and put on 2.5KG in under two weeks and are desperate to get back on them.
I suspect unless people are on these for life they will just put it all back on.
I'd sign up for life now if it meant I stayed thin and had no anxiety!
ThingsBehindTheSun said:
Allegedly one in ten women in the UK are now using these jabs, that is crazy.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1428686...
As I said earlier in this thread I know three people on these now who are all in their 60s and none of them have any willpower or desire to do any exercise at all. Two of them are a married couple who whenever I see them are constantly stuffing their faces with rubbish. We went over to their house for a coffee and they bring out cakes and chocolates. We went out for a coffee at 11am and they wanted to get a piece of cake to go with it.
I know if they manage to lose any weight with these jabs they will put it all back on the second they stop as they just cannot stop themselves eating.
The other person wasn't that over weight and went on these injections for three months. They came off them at Christmas and put on 2.5KG in under two weeks and are desperate to get back on them.
I suspect unless people are on these for life they will just put it all back on.
I don't believe that 1 in 10 figure on any level - but I will one day. Probably soon.https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1428686...
As I said earlier in this thread I know three people on these now who are all in their 60s and none of them have any willpower or desire to do any exercise at all. Two of them are a married couple who whenever I see them are constantly stuffing their faces with rubbish. We went over to their house for a coffee and they bring out cakes and chocolates. We went out for a coffee at 11am and they wanted to get a piece of cake to go with it.
I know if they manage to lose any weight with these jabs they will put it all back on the second they stop as they just cannot stop themselves eating.
The other person wasn't that over weight and went on these injections for three months. They came off them at Christmas and put on 2.5KG in under two weeks and are desperate to get back on them.
I suspect unless people are on these for life they will just put it all back on.
You are judging the 60 year olds - maybe they deserve it for two cakes in the morning (something that would never cross my mind either - its for teh afternoon;) ) but wait till you get to 60 and think of the joys of the gym with an older body, longer recovery times with some rheumatism etc. Ghastly, smelly, noisy places at best - and I have done 'em every other day for years in my 30's! Never again thank God. But the thing is this drug will temper these weaklings' inbuilt programmed misbehaviours and allow them to behave and be the better people! Its like the point of it all to a degree? No? Overriding BIOS?
Ken Figenus said:
I researched this for months. I took advice form a consultant surgeon friend who said its a seismic game changer and even tackles alcoholism as it helps satiate that 'little devil voice' craving too..
A mate of mine is taking these jabs and in addition to his weight loss they have helped drastically reduce the amount he drinks (usually larger) as he just feels full and has little desire to drink the quantity he used to, and he did like a few pints most evenings but he's now not so bothered.Ken Figenus said:
ThingsBehindTheSun said:
Allegedly one in ten women in the UK are now using these jabs, that is crazy.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1428686...
As I said earlier in this thread I know three people on these now who are all in their 60s and none of them have any willpower or desire to do any exercise at all. Two of them are a married couple who whenever I see them are constantly stuffing their faces with rubbish. We went over to their house for a coffee and they bring out cakes and chocolates. We went out for a coffee at 11am and they wanted to get a piece of cake to go with it.
I know if they manage to lose any weight with these jabs they will put it all back on the second they stop as they just cannot stop themselves eating.
The other person wasn't that over weight and went on these injections for three months. They came off them at Christmas and put on 2.5KG in under two weeks and are desperate to get back on them.
I suspect unless people are on these for life they will just put it all back on.
I don't believe that 1 in 10 figure on any level - but I will one day. Probably soon.https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1428686...
As I said earlier in this thread I know three people on these now who are all in their 60s and none of them have any willpower or desire to do any exercise at all. Two of them are a married couple who whenever I see them are constantly stuffing their faces with rubbish. We went over to their house for a coffee and they bring out cakes and chocolates. We went out for a coffee at 11am and they wanted to get a piece of cake to go with it.
I know if they manage to lose any weight with these jabs they will put it all back on the second they stop as they just cannot stop themselves eating.
The other person wasn't that over weight and went on these injections for three months. They came off them at Christmas and put on 2.5KG in under two weeks and are desperate to get back on them.
I suspect unless people are on these for life they will just put it all back on.
You are judging the 60 year olds - maybe they deserve it for two cakes in the morning (something that would never cross my mind either - its for teh afternoon;) ) but wait till you get to 60 and think of the joys of the gym with an older body, longer recovery times with some rheumatism etc. Ghastly, smelly, noisy places at best - and I have done 'em every other day for years in my 30's! Never again thank God. But the thing is this drug will temper these weaklings' inbuilt programmed misbehaviours and allow them to behave and be the better people! Its like the point of it all to a degree? No? Overriding BIOS?
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