Wegovy Anti-chubster injection-pen things
Wegovy Anti-chubster injection-pen things
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Mr Pointy

13,319 posts

188 months

Sunday 21st June
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Blown2CV said:
it's not really about that. One person is saying stick to the rules - that does not mean the person owns the rules. The other person saying fk it just break the rules is not only wrong but also posting dangerous advice, when this is clearly an area they have no expertise in. It isn't an equivalent position on either side of that debate (which isn't a debate by the way - just do what you're meant to do).
On what grounds are you saying it's dangerous advice? I haven't "advised" anyone, I've merely pointed out that it's a stable drug (as Mr ask1ngforafriend points out) & that there's no practical difference between an unused & a correctly used pen in terms of longevity if kept in the fridge. It's not like you rip the top off the pen & leave it open next to the cheese.

paralla

5,558 posts

164 months

Sunday 21st June
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Calling the instructions “rules” is a bit of a stretch.

Eli Lilly and Company Is not my mother.

Very slightly old prescribed medication from a KwikPen that’s had 5 sterile needles inserted into it rather than 4 sterile needles is so far down the list of dangerous things I’ve put in my body over the years it’s not even worth a second thought.

Blown2CV

31,600 posts

232 months

Monday 22nd June
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paralla said:
Blown2CV said:
paralla said:
Jules Sunley said:
Mr Pointy said:
Go on then, explain the mechanism by which they become unusable if kept in the fridge after first use.
I'm not a clinician and I'm guessing neither are you. MJ is a controlled drug and personally I have no intention of using it outside of the regulated instructioms that come with it. You do you of course, but on a forum where others come for advice I think we should stick to things like 'which supplier is cheapest etc' and how we are all getting on with it rather than suggesting going against regulated manufacturer guidelines.
I think one person on a forum shouldn t be able to tell another person on a forum what they should and shouldn t be allowed to post as long as what s being posted is within the rules of the forum.
it's not really about that. One person is saying stick to the rules - that does not mean the person owns the rules. The other person saying fk it just break the rules is not only wrong but also posting dangerous advice, when this is clearly an area they have no expertise in. It isn't an equivalent position on either side of that debate (which isn't a debate by the way - just do what you're meant to do).
Or just do whatever you want.
if you inject it right into your eyeball it has 15% greater effectiveness in weight loss

Blown2CV

31,600 posts

232 months

Monday 22nd June
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Mr Pointy said:
Blown2CV said:
it's not really about that. One person is saying stick to the rules - that does not mean the person owns the rules. The other person saying fk it just break the rules is not only wrong but also posting dangerous advice, when this is clearly an area they have no expertise in. It isn't an equivalent position on either side of that debate (which isn't a debate by the way - just do what you're meant to do).
On what grounds are you saying it's dangerous advice? I haven't "advised" anyone, I've merely pointed out that it's a stable drug (as Mr ask1ngforafriend points out) & that there's no practical difference between an unused & a correctly used pen in terms of longevity if kept in the fridge. It's not like you rip the top off the pen & leave it open next to the cheese.
i should clarify - i don't given a st whether you give yourself gangrene, sepsis or anything else... and I always welcome people to get precisely the outcomes they deserve... however when you're saying on a public forum "this is the right thing to do" then you open yourself up to be challenged. You won't win the argument on who is right and who is wrong - all you are saying is you are choosing to ignore the advice. You can just walk out into the road without looking too if you like, that is your choice, but don't be telling everyone else this is how they should do it.

Jules Sunley

5,418 posts

122 months

Monday 22nd June
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Agreed. Let's move on now back to the general positivity of this thread.

Just to flag my comment from last time it was really hot, for anyone that missed it or any newbies, the extra heat and drinking more means we will retain more fluid so don't be disheartened if weight stays static or increases a bit this week as it will be an effective false reading.

Happened to me last time and then when cooled down the following week I had a jump down weigh in on the scales.

At least being a lot lighter now I deal a lot better with heat. I used to hate it!

the-norseman

15,706 posts

200 months

Monday 22nd June
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Got my first 5mg jab on the way for Satuday, I was previosuly on Wegovy 0.25,0.5 and 1. The switch to Mounjaro, the 2.5mg did nothing at all.

Jules Sunley

5,418 posts

122 months

Monday 22nd June
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the-norseman said:
Got my first 5mg jab on the way for Satuday, I was previosuly on Wegovy 0.25,0.5 and 1. The switch to Mounjaro, the 2.5mg did nothing at all.
Although it works for some, the 2.5mg was aimed to be the 'trial dose' to check for any side effects etc. With 5mg you should see some results. Good luck.

paralla

5,558 posts

164 months

Monday 22nd June
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For any free spirited rebels out there that want to make their own mind up about using the golden dose.



Edited by paralla on Monday 22 June 13:59

anonymous-user

83 months

Monday 22nd June
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Blown2CV said:
paralla said:
Blown2CV said:
paralla said:
Jules Sunley said:
Mr Pointy said:
Go on then, explain the mechanism by which they become unusable if kept in the fridge after first use.
I'm not a clinician and I'm guessing neither are you. MJ is a controlled drug and personally I have no intention of using it outside of the regulated instructioms that come with it. You do you of course, but on a forum where others come for advice I think we should stick to things like 'which supplier is cheapest etc' and how we are all getting on with it rather than suggesting going against regulated manufacturer guidelines.
I think one person on a forum shouldn t be able to tell another person on a forum what they should and shouldn t be allowed to post as long as what s being posted is within the rules of the forum.
it's not really about that. One person is saying stick to the rules - that does not mean the person owns the rules. The other person saying fk it just break the rules is not only wrong but also posting dangerous advice, when this is clearly an area they have no expertise in. It isn't an equivalent position on either side of that debate (which isn't a debate by the way - just do what you're meant to do).
Or just do whatever you want.
if you inject it right into your eyeball it has 15% greater effectiveness in weight loss
Nah, thats heroin you're thinking about...

anonymous-user

83 months

Monday 22nd June
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paralla said:
For any free spirited rebels out there that want to make their own mind up about using the golden dose.



Edited by paralla on Monday 22 June 13:59
Much easier with an insulin syringe and needle...although I don't think there IS any more in a needle now due to new design...?

mart 63

2,560 posts

273 months

Monday 22nd June
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paralla said:
For any free spirited rebels out there that want to make their own mind up about using the golden dose.



Edited by paralla on Monday 22 June 13:59
The last pen i used in February, just turned with a bit of force
Managed to get 10, 2.5mg doses out of a 5mg pen, saved a few £.

the-norseman

15,706 posts

200 months

Tuesday 23rd June
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Jules Sunley said:
Although it works for some, the 2.5mg was aimed to be the 'trial dose' to check for any side effects etc. With 5mg you should see some results. Good luck.
Realised that, every dose of Wegovy did something. I got some results on Wegovy so hoping for better from Mounjaro.

jfdi

1,333 posts

204 months

Tuesday 23rd June
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biggbn said:
Nah, thats heroin you're thinking about...
By far the best weight loss drug.

andyb28

1,158 posts

147 months

Tuesday 23rd June
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Thought you might like to hear a little update from me as I am probably a bit further down the process to others on here.

I spent a year on Wegovy, with great results. I lost just under 4 stone, but after spending a number of the final months on the maximum dose it felt like it wasn't working anymore. So I dropped down to 1.7 for a month and then stopped it altogether. That was just over 3 months ago.

I have gained a little bit in weight since coming off it, but nothing major, just a couple of pounds.

Last week I had an updated consultancy with the online doctor as I still wanted to drop another stone and they said that after 6 weeks, you can start again on the lowest dosage. Which is great, I have just taken my 0.25 and will see how well it works a second time round.

Collectingbrass

2,949 posts

224 months

Wednesday 24th June
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My pharmacist (Farmeci) is now asking for "A dated scale video: This must show you stepping on the scales with your face clearly visible, alongside a piece of paper displaying the current date." Are they also looking for the read out in the same video?

lenny007

1,486 posts

250 months

Wednesday 24th June
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biggbn said:
paralla said:
For any free spirited rebels out there that want to make their own mind up about using the golden dose.



Edited by paralla on Monday 22 June 13:59
Much easier with an insulin syringe and needle...although I don't think there IS any more in a needle now due to new design...?
They started with the 5mg pens in May this year and will transition to the new pens once the older stock goes. Since May i've had 7.5 and 10mg pens delivered and they were still the old pens with the golden dose in.

FWIW, i've been using 1ml 31G 6mm "Measuring Tools" (ahem) from Amazon and they work perfectly - no need to use screwdrivers and the like.

Blown2CV

31,600 posts

232 months

Wednesday 24th June
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Collectingbrass said:
My pharmacist (Farmeci) is now asking for "A dated scale video: This must show you stepping on the scales with your face clearly visible, alongside a piece of paper displaying the current date." Are they also looking for the read out in the same video?
your phone should have a dual camera video mode. My pharmacy accepted a video shot like this.

the-norseman

15,706 posts

200 months

Wednesday 24th June
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Collectingbrass said:
My pharmacist (Farmeci) is now asking for "A dated scale video: This must show you stepping on the scales with your face clearly visible, alongside a piece of paper displaying the current date." Are they also looking for the read out in the same video?
Its becoming a real pain having to do all these videos etc.

the-norseman

15,706 posts

200 months

Wednesday 24th June
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andyb28 said:
Thought you might like to hear a little update from me as I am probably a bit further down the process to others on here.

I spent a year on Wegovy, with great results. I lost just under 4 stone, but after spending a number of the final months on the maximum dose it felt like it wasn't working anymore. So I dropped down to 1.7 for a month and then stopped it altogether. That was just over 3 months ago.

I have gained a little bit in weight since coming off it, but nothing major, just a couple of pounds.

Last week I had an updated consultancy with the online doctor as I still wanted to drop another stone and they said that after 6 weeks, you can start again on the lowest dosage. Which is great, I have just taken my 0.25 and will see how well it works a second time round.
Did you nto fancy a few months on Mounjaor rather than Wegovy? I've switched.

andyb28

1,158 posts

147 months

Wednesday 24th June
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the-norseman said:
andyb28 said:
Thought you might like to hear a little update from me as I am probably a bit further down the process to others on here.

I spent a year on Wegovy, with great results. I lost just under 4 stone, but after spending a number of the final months on the maximum dose it felt like it wasn't working anymore. So I dropped down to 1.7 for a month and then stopped it altogether. That was just over 3 months ago.

I have gained a little bit in weight since coming off it, but nothing major, just a couple of pounds.

Last week I had an updated consultancy with the online doctor as I still wanted to drop another stone and they said that after 6 weeks, you can start again on the lowest dosage. Which is great, I have just taken my 0.25 and will see how well it works a second time round.
Did you nto fancy a few months on Mounjaor rather than Wegovy? I've switched.
It has been offered to me twice now by Lloyds.
When the 2.4 does was no longer working, they offered me switching to Mounjaro or having triple doses of Wegovy (3 x jabs per go). I didn't really want to do either, which is why I decided to come off it.

When going back on just recently, again I had the choice of both. But Wegovy jabs are a lot easier to do.