Wegovy Anti-chubster injection-pen things

[TikTak]

Part of the battle is resisting the cravings and changing the routine and if you can help that process with the drug and it helps you to lose a massive amount of weight, why not?

If the drug stops the cravings, helps you change your habits, get's you into enjoying the small bits of healthy food when you do have them rather than binging on junk food and settles you into a new routine how can that be a bad thing? Even if the weight loss is only for a few years it's better than not at all?

Could these people do it it without it? Perhaps but we're talking about it like no one regains weight after dieting and gyming normally, which is nonsense. 90% of people regain the weight through that method but it doesn't stop people trying and early indications are that more than that keep it off after the drug, so that's even better.

[Maximis1975]

Hi everyone.

I hope it's ok if I join.

I started MJ at the start of January at 17st 10 lbs (113 kg). I've been very fortunate and responded very well. I felt suppression almost straight away. I stayed on 2.5mg for a few months and then went up to 3.75mg. I had minimal side effects with some gastro issues in the first week but nothing since then

I currently weight 12 st 12 lbs (82 kg) so a total loss of 4 st 12 lbs (31 kg).

The weight loss has definitely slowed down the last month but I've been back to the gym weight lifting.

I've changed my eating habits completely. I don't drink fizzy drinks and anything with sugar since starting the jabs. I eat while food and keep my protein high.

My goal is 11 stone (70 kg) which I'll hopefully reach in a few months.

[andyxxx]

Maximis1975 said:

Hi everyone.

I hope it's ok if I join.

I started MJ at the start of January at 17st 10 lbs (113 kg). I've been very fortunate and responded very well. I felt suppression almost straight away. I stayed on 2.5mg for a few months and then went up to 3.75mg. I had minimal side effects with some gastro issues in the first week but nothing since then

I currently weight 12 st 12 lbs (82 kg) so a total loss of 4 st 12 lbs (31 kg).

The weight loss has definitely slowed down the last month but I've been back to the gym weight lifting.

I've changed my eating habits completely. I don't drink fizzy drinks and anything with sugar since starting the jabs. I eat while food and keep my protein high.

My goal is 11 stone (70 kg) which I'll hopefully reach in a few months.

Well done u!! - brilliant result and u have changed your lifestyle so more likely to be long term.

[Jules Sunley]

Excellent, well done Maximis!

[Maximis1975]

Thanks guys.

I've read the whole thread and it's been really interesting seeing everyones journeys.

I've told all my friends and family. My brother started it recently and is having good results as well.

I'm a bit apprehensive about coming off but I'm determined not to be fat again. My health is better, I look better, I don't constantly sweat all the time and most importantly I can have a run around with my son without getting tired.

I turned 50 last year so needed to something to sort myself out.

[paralla]

I put a load of weight back on after I came off it. I started up again two months ago and have lost 7kg since then.

This is how it works for me:-

- When I'm not on it I get fat

- When I'm on it I lose weight

I'm feeling pretty good about it at the moment. I spent my lunch hour today sorting out the flat tyres on my bike and giving it a good clean. I've ridden it once in 2.5 years but I plan on taking it out for a spin tomorrow. I can't find the charger for the ETAP shifter batteries so have had to order a replacement.

Edited by paralla on Monday 20th July 15:55

[alock]

Maximis1975 said:

I felt suppression almost straight away. I stayed on 2.5mg for a few months and then went up to 3.75mg.

I've never used it, but this seems like the best approach to me. Stay on the lowest dose that shows any sign of being helpful.

I can't square away the two common things I hear about these drugs:
1. I started on dose x and saw some weight loss, then went to 2x, then 4x, etc...
2. I'm not worried about coming off the drugs because I've improved my eating habits.

If you've actually changed your eating habits, why increase the dosage?

[ask1ngforafriend]

The Moose said:

Does anyone else think in 20 years time there will be a load of compensation claims because of these anti-chubster jabs?

They have already been around for 20 years, what do you think the issue would be?

[Spare tyre]

My daughter is at a mixed infant junior school

Each year you get a picture of all the staff with their names under

We’ve got them all on a wall, my goodness there’s been some rapid weight loss

[otolith]

The Moose said:

Does anyone else think in 20 years time there will be a load of compensation claims because of these anti-chubster jabs?

Dunno, diet industry shareholders might think they have a case.

[Maximis1975]

alock said:

Maximis1975 said:

I felt suppression almost straight away. I stayed on 2.5mg for a few months and then went up to 3.75mg.

I've never used it, but this seems like the best approach to me. Stay on the lowest dose that shows any sign of being helpful.

I can't square away the two common things I hear about these drugs:
1. I started on dose x and saw some weight loss, then went to 2x, then 4x, etc...
2. I'm not worried about coming off the drugs because I've improved my eating habits.

If you've actually changed your eating habits, why increase the dosage?

I think some of the pharmacy do advise to go up each month. I read a few forums before starting and the advise there was to stay on the lowest dose that still works.

Im still getting hungry and sometimes get the urge to eat crap but I'm using some will power to override these thoughts. Having said this, some people do need to go up doses as the suppression completey stops.

I'm very mindful that when I get off the drugs I'll be on my own in terms of resisting temptation.

[Pizzaeatingking]

alock said:

I've never used it, but this seems like the best approach to me. Stay on the lowest dose that shows any sign of being helpful.

I can't square away the two common things I hear about these drugs:
1. I started on dose x and saw some weight loss, then went to 2x, then 4x, etc...
2. I'm not worried about coming off the drugs because I've improved my eating habits.

If you've actually changed your eating habits, why increase the dosage?

100% this. I've lost over 8 stone now on the 2.5mg dose. For the first 9 months or so I felt the suppression, day 3 and 4 after the jab in particular, then towards the end of the week it would be less noticeable. The last few months though, I've noticed it much less, although I'm still dropping the weight. I mentioned it to my wife and she has suggested it's effects are wearing off at that dose for me now and perhaps I've just adjusted to my healthier lifestyle and diet. I eat good home made meals, lots of protein and whatever veggies I can get in there (I'm not a huge fan of veg!). I snack far less, when I do I reach for fruit, nuts, beef jerky, a yogurt rather than crisps and chocolate, I can't remember the last time I bought anything to eat from a corner shop (daily occurrence before).

I still have a takeaway once a month, few gin and tonics every now and then and something sweet most days but it'll be a sensible portion rather than a whole Toblerone bar. I also track my calories still, but I'm not too strict, mainly just to hold myself to account really.

[The Moose]

Chumley.mouse said:

I think like any drug it will become addictive as in once you come off it the weight will come back as old habits and appetite return. So people start using it again to shed the weight. The price will continue to increase because they know people need to have it to shift the weight.

I know 2 blokes who have used it , lost a lot of weight ( one for his wedding). And both have put it on again after they stopped it.

For people with mobility issues/ disabilities and serious health issues i think its good But for long term use i dont think its the answer.

I read somewhere that 1 in 8 Americans are on it !!!!! Thats a lot of people.

I think it's massively interesting. As far as I've read, there aren't any long term studies on long term/whole life use and I can't help but worry if there will be some unseen negative side effects - I don't know how good it is for the body to turn off the hunger "message". I understand this is what the body does anyway, but I would think it's more line a Sine wave rather than suppressed, essentially, permanently.

Don't get me wrong, the positive impacts are huge - the people I personally know on it are making huge gains (well, losses but you know what I mean). In the short term that can only be good. The long term is the bit that worries me.

I could do with dropping around 40lbs and as my kids get bigger, when I play on the floor with them, I feel it more in my joints. I feel like I'm in the middle ground between taking these drugs and just hardcore diet + exercise for a year. The side effects just concern me a bit. I don't take any regular maintenance medication and don't really know that I want to start.

I don't have a great relationship with food, overeating specifically, and it kinda feels like the medication choice is, realistically, a one-way street...and I'm not in love with that idea.

Maximis1975 said:

Having said this, some people do need to go up doses as the suppression completey stops.

The concern I would have with this would be that the reason the suppression completely stops is because the body gets used to the suppression...so when you come off the drug, is the "let's eat now" voice louder.

Edited by The Moose on Tuesday 21st July 00:54

[Griffith4ever]

Thought I'd revisit. Wegovy, 4 months, finished Dec. Lost 10 Kg (92 down to 82). Month 1 min dose, month 2 next dose up (double) month 3 back to min dose. month 4 same.

We are now late July and Im' 81.5 kg. I don't even have to try - it just changed my eating habits. I no longer feel I "should" finish a plate in front of me, and I now generally order smaller meals. I'm also more active with EMTB riding.

It's great - I really don't have to think about it, and, it saves me money. It helps we've moved now and have Zero fast food available to us.

The Wegovy was just the kick up the arse (and leg-up) I needed.

[Mark-BMW-E30-318is]

Hi all, well I haven t had any treatment for the past couple of weeks. I ve pretty much kept to the same diet but weighed in yesterday and I ve gained 3lb. Disappointed but all I can do is to keep trying. I m trying to eat plenty of protein and vegetables. I do like an occasional ice cream but we re talking maybe a magnum twice weekly, not spoon feeding litres at a time. I ll knock them on the head though anyway. The hunger pains are uncomfortable but I hope they ll pass.

Had the bandages done yesterday and now have toe caps. They re like gloves for the feet and the materiel is elasticated to compress each toe individually. They ve just as uncomfortable as you might imagine.

Mark

Edited by Mark-BMW-E30-318is on Tuesday 21st July 14:47

[Autopilot]

Chumley.mouse said:

This is the thing ,if people can change their habits to keep the weight down after they have used the drug ,then why cant they do it before ?

Because generally speaking, despite weight loss being the easiest thing ever to understand, the actual mechanics behind it are not as straight forwards.

A calorie deficit is of course the answer, burn more calories than you consume then you're in a deficit. If you overspend, you are of course in a surplus so you're putting weight on. Macros do of course matter. If you consume 100g of carbs, most of those are used to replenish glycogen and for every 1g of glycogen stored, your body stores 3 - 4g of water alongside it so if you consumed that 100g carbs, you're storing 300g - 400g of water and your 'weight' can fluctuate wildly day to day.

You may be losing bodyfat but water can significantly mask progress, people get despondent and give up hence yo-yo dieting. If you stick to it you can see the overall downward trend, physically see the results and stay motivated so you kind of need to see it through to trust the process.

[Mark-BMW-E30-318is]

Autopilot said:

Chumley.mouse said:

This is the thing ,if people can change their habits to keep the weight down after they have used the drug ,then why cant they do it before ?

Because generally speaking, despite weight loss being the easiest thing ever to understand, the actual mechanics behind it are not as straight forwards.

A calorie deficit is of course the answer, burn more calories than you consume then you're in a deficit. If you overspend, you are of course in a surplus so you're putting weight on. Macros do of course matter. If you consume 100g of carbs, most of those are used to replenish glycogen and for every 1g of glycogen stored, your body stores 3 - 4g of water alongside it so if you consumed that 100g carbs, you're storing 300g - 400g of water and your 'weight' can fluctuate wildly day to day.

You may be losing bodyfat but water can significantly mask progress, people get despondent and give up hence yo-yo dieting. If you stick to it you can see the overall downward trend, physically see the results and stay motivated so you kind of need to see it through to trust the process.

Didn’t realise that about my morning 50g of porridge each morning. Am I better off with some yogurt and honey?

Hunger pains are still giving me grief today. Been drinking water and keeping watch over the size of my meals in the hope I’ll remain in deficit. Weirdly the toe caps I got on Monday appear to be making quite a difference. My understanding is that being the extremity, the majority of fluid can be retained there? I hope that’s right anyway. One other benefit is they keep my feet hidden. They look grim at the best of times so anything is an improvement really.

[anonymous-user]

I think I'm done with the jabs. At near £300 every 6 or 7 weeks I'm thinking I'm gonna screw the nut. My 'fear' is that I struggle and have to restart at 2.5mg which would seem a waste of both time and money BUT the protocol has never shut me down so I'm used to being hungry all the time, so wonder of this potential loss of efficacy will aid me going cold turkey. The mirror and scales should be enough inspiration for me not to slip back. Thats 7.5 stone I've dropped in 12 months and I can see my muscles and, nearly, some abs.

Wish me luck....

Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 22 July 16:24

[sc_brown]

I've used MJ and lost around 3st and got to a place where I'm happy and trying my hardest to use my new habits.

However, I think something that seems to be missed by the 'people will pile the weight back on' crowd is having to get used to your new 'maintenance'

When you've lost a good amount of weight - and some people are talking 10st+ - they will have gone from a place where potentially 3500 calories a day wouldn't see them gain weight down to now looking at 2000 or less to stop weight gain.

It's a massive psychological shift and any weight loss - medicated or otherwise - is so rarely a linear process.

Keep at it everyone - do what you need to do and what's best for you!

[anonymous-user]

sc_brown said:

I've used MJ and lost around 3st and got to a place where I'm happy and trying my hardest to use my new habits.

However, I think something that seems to be missed by the 'people will pile the weight back on' crowd is having to get used to your new 'maintenance'

When you've lost a good amount of weight - and some people are talking 10st+ - they will have gone from a place where potentially 3500 calories a day wouldn't see them gain weight down to now looking at 2000 or less to stop weight gain.

It's a massive psychological shift and any weight loss - medicated or otherwise - is so rarely a linear process.

Keep at it everyone - do what you need to do and what's best for you!

I've been approx 1500 cal a day Monday to Friday with no calorie counting at weekend for a year now...