how fast can you row 2000 metres ?

[J4CKO]

Just had another go, second go, set the resistance to seven, got 8.00.2.

[HybridAero]

6:53 is my PB, trying to get to 6:40 over the summer.

[J4CKO]

AIming for seven minutes by the end of the year, think should be possible, have three cracks at it a week, maybe get one at home, seems to be a very efficient workout, 6 to 10 minutes of giving it all you have got, compare and contrast with all the folk sat messing with phones on he exercise bikes wasting hours on not much.

[dtmpower]

Repeatedly trying a 2km test is not a good way to improve your 2km test time.

I found varying sprints, intervals, longer slower rows is the best way.

Try doing 1min on 1 min off, or 4 x 500m with 30seconds rest or a 10k at a steady heart rate.

[J4CKO]

dtmpower said:

Repeatedly trying a 2km test is not a good way to improve your 2km test time.

I found varying sprints, intervals, longer slower rows is the best way.

Try doing 1min on 1 min off, or 4 x 500m with 30seconds rest or a 10k at a steady heart rate.

Doing intervals as well, will do some longer ones.

[p1stonhead]

Happened to see this today. pretty damn good no?

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J4CKO said:

AIming for seven minutes by the end of the year, think should be possible, have three cracks at it a week, maybe get one at home, seems to be a very efficient workout, 6 to 10 minutes of giving it all you have got, compare and contrast with all the folk sat messing with phones on he exercise bikes wasting hours on not much.

Good luck.

Personally I find that I can do 8 minutes whilst holding a conversation, 7.45 is not hard, but 7.30 takes some effort. 7 minutes would take some major practice.

[J4CKO]

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J4CKO said:

AIming for seven minutes by the end of the year, think should be possible, have three cracks at it a week, maybe get one at home, seems to be a very efficient workout, 6 to 10 minutes of giving it all you have got, compare and contrast with all the folk sat messing with phones on he exercise bikes wasting hours on not much.

Good luck.

Personally I find that I can do 8 minutes whilst holding a conversation, 7.45 is not hard, but 7.30 takes some effort. 7 minutes would take some major practice.

Yeah, not beaten that 8 mins yet

Will aim for a more realistic target of taking a second off each time.

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J4CKO said:

Yeah, not beaten that 8 mins yet

Will aim for a more realistic target of taking a second off each time.

Assuming you have the standard number of functioning lungs and limbs your form is adrift.

You could either get some coaching or an alternative that can be quite effective is to use a mirror.

Put a rower at 45 degrees to a big mirror and you can watch yourself rowing. Compare and contrast what you see with a youtube vid of a proper rower and you might be able to help yourself to some degree.

[clonmult]

p1stonhead said:

Happened to see this today. pretty damn good no?

But he didn't dial in a 2k, as a result, it can't be ranked ..... in general sub 7 is counted as reasonable.

I'm closing back in on sub 7 shape; did it a few years back (I was a ruddy smoker at the time), now clean for a few months and working hard on the training again.

Did 10x1 intervals on the ski erg last night; then right onto the erg to do the same. Averaged 1:46.3 on the ski erg (which means the 2k time should be around 7:25. Averaged 1:41.8 on the erg, which means that I should be good for sub 7:10 - probably faster as I was already knackered from the ski erg session.

Also was the first time I've done the sessions without a HRM - always been a slave to them, but need to get a feel for how my body is responding, rather than relying on technology.

[clonmult]

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J4CKO said:

Yeah, not beaten that 8 mins yet

Will aim for a more realistic target of taking a second off each time.

Assuming you have the standard number of functioning lungs and limbs your form is adrift.

You could either get some coaching or an alternative that can be quite effective is to use a mirror.

Put a rower at 45 degrees to a big mirror and you can watch yourself rowing. Compare and contrast what you see with a youtube vid of a proper rower and you might be able to help yourself to some degree.

Technique is a huge part of rowing; definitely worth looking at videos on youtube and see where you're going wrong.

[J4CKO]

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J4CKO said:

Yeah, not beaten that 8 mins yet

Will aim for a more realistic target of taking a second off each time.

Assuming you have the standard number of functioning lungs and limbs your form is adrift.

You could either get some coaching or an alternative that can be quite effective is to use a mirror.

Put a rower at 45 degrees to a big mirror and you can watch yourself rowing. Compare and contrast what you see with a youtube vid of a proper rower and you might be able to help yourself to some degree.

Will give that a go at lunchtime and have a crack at it tonight when I go to the gym.

[clonmult]

Everyone been a bit quiet of late ... ?

Had one decent row over the weekend. Was supposed to be doing a 2k time trial on sunday, my training implied I should have been good for sub 6:55, but mind just wasn't in it.

So after 3 aborted 2k trials (got to 600 or 800 meters on each), decided to try the 1k instead. My partner was coaching me and would not let me stop .... managed to get a 3:18.4. 3 second improvement over my prior time, and if I hadn't done those 2k attempts, I would have been faster. Have a feeling that on fresh legs I'm going to be good for 3:15 or faster.

[So]

I've been working on stroke power, but I am experiencing heel lift if I try to get my shins vertical. I know my calves / ankles are tight but any amount of stretching them doesn't seem to help.

Do any experienced rowers have any tips on this point please?

[LimaDelta]

Bought a Concept 2 for the second time in my life after a few years off, so two weeks in, my PB for 2k is 7:46.3.

I'm aiming to get a sub 20min 5k as my next benchmark. Also keep torturing myself with 100m best efforts - find it hard to stay on the seat pulling that hard and fast (fnaarrr).

Anyway for my age/weight/sex I'm around the 30-40th percentiles. I'd like to get in the top half by the end of the year if I can.

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LimaDelta said:

I'm aiming to get a sub 20min 5k as my next benchmark. Also keep torturing myself with 100m best efforts - find it hard to stay on the seat pulling that hard and fast (fnaarrr).

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Don't pull a full stroke for the first 2-3 strokes. I do two half strokes, a 3/4 and then row normally (or as normally as 100m permits).

[clonmult]

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LimaDelta said:

I'm aiming to get a sub 20min 5k as my next benchmark. Also keep torturing myself with 100m best efforts - find it hard to stay on the seat pulling that hard and fast (fnaarrr).

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Don't pull a full stroke for the first 2-3 strokes. I do two half strokes, a 3/4 and then row normally (or as normally as 100m permits).

If you "row normally" for any of the 100m, you will be slow.

Put the foot plates up a couple of notches and rate up. The 100m is all about rating up, making much greater use of the arms/shoulders/back and actually making slightly less use of the legs. The caveat is that if you truly get the 100m technique right, you're going to increase your chances of a back injury ....

Perfect technique is in this video

I say perfect as Ross holds the outright 100m world record.

Not looking forward to this month - office gym has a 500m and 2k challenge, I won't be in with a chance - third at best, as we have an ex team GB rower and a very serious OTW kayak fella - both will be sub 6:40 over the 2k.

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clonmult said:

If you "row normally" for any of the 100m, you will be slow.

Put the foot plates up a couple of notches and rate up. The 100m is all about rating up, making much greater use of the arms/shoulders/back and actually making slightly less use of the legs. The caveat is that if you truly get the 100m technique right, you're going to increase your chances of a back injury ....

Perfect technique is in this video

I say perfect as Ross holds the outright 100m world record.

Not looking forward to this month - office gym has a 500m and 2k challenge, I won't be in with a chance - third at best, as we have an ex team GB rower and a very serious OTW kayak fella - both will be sub 6:40 over the 2k.

That IS normal surely?

I think it's interesting that Ross Love sets the fan at about half way for his rowing. Sort of debunks the "higher is better for beefy guys" thinking.

Out of interest Clonmult, what times do you predict you will do in the office rowing comp?

[clonmult]

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That IS normal surely?

I think it's interesting that Ross Love sets the fan at about half way for his rowing. Sort of debunks the "higher is better for beefy guys" thinking.

Out of interest Clonmult, what times do you predict you will do in the office rowing comp?

Sure, thats how I row all the time. Be it a 100m, 5k or a 50k ....

Drag factor; these days Ross is using fairly normal levels and working on explosive power - he had a lot of back problems after setting the 100m records. But for the 100m he was max drag. Maybe he'll be hoping to get a decent time at the world championships.

For the 100m max drag tends to be the way, throw caution to the wind, rate over 50spm and just hope your back doesn't explode.

However for older lightweights, high drag does seem to be pretty normal. I've had it explained, still don't understand.

My seasons best 2k is kinda lousy, 7:14. Haven't actually done a 500m this season. But I'd be hoping for sub 1:30 over the 500m and sub 7 over the 2k. I really should be more like 1:25 over the 500m.

[Frimley111R]

Interesting, not seen this before. Surely the resistance has to be the same or does it compensate somehow?