Evora vs Emira
Discussion
(Based on the Emira reviews, to date) I can’t decide if I’m pleased that the Emira doesn’t seem to have blown my Evora (GT410 Sport) out of the water (the Evora is faster, lighter and sounds better), or disappointed that it doesn’t offer an obvious choice as my next car (probably 18 months away, anyway).
The answer is probably to drive one and take a view on the car, then. Maybe there’ll be a second gen car (lighter, more powerful) shortly?
The answer is probably to drive one and take a view on the car, then. Maybe there’ll be a second gen car (lighter, more powerful) shortly?
You`re forgetting what a great car the Evora especially in it`s latest guise is/was...just overpriced when new due to the very low production volumes...
Don`t get hung up on the main stream media reviews as like any corporation they'll bend to who ever pays them the biggest advertising budget!
Watch Harry`s garage, he absolutely knows what he is talking about having set up Evo magazine, been racing, testing, working on development plus being a bit of a journo for many years. He absolutely loves it...in touring guise.
Don`t get hung up on the main stream media reviews as like any corporation they'll bend to who ever pays them the biggest advertising budget!
Watch Harry`s garage, he absolutely knows what he is talking about having set up Evo magazine, been racing, testing, working on development plus being a bit of a journo for many years. He absolutely loves it...in touring guise.
An interesting comment in the EVO video;
Bovingdon said:
It's such a big step on from the Evora. I've watched a few videos on this car, read a few things early on about it and I was really frustrated that no one compared it to an Evora. But now I sort of understand why because it doesn't call to mind an Evora, it doesn't feel like a re-bodied or a development of the Evora. There's... it's just a different feel. The interior is so much better, the quality feels better it just... for the money, for the first time ever a Lotus feels like a bargain rather than something that's really pushing and will only occur to super hardcore Lotus enthusiasts
Make of that what you will. CTE said:
You`re forgetting what a great car the Evora especially in it`s latest guise is/was...just overpriced when new due to the very low production volumes...
Don`t get hung up on the main stream media reviews as like any corporation they'll bend to who ever pays them the biggest advertising budget!
Watch Harry`s garage, he absolutely knows what he is talking about having set up Evo magazine, been racing, testing, working on development plus being a bit of a journo for many years. He absolutely loves it...in touring guise.
Sure - all good points. Interestingly, it was Harry (almost single-handedly) that persuaded me to buy the Evora GT410 Sport! Don`t get hung up on the main stream media reviews as like any corporation they'll bend to who ever pays them the biggest advertising budget!
Watch Harry`s garage, he absolutely knows what he is talking about having set up Evo magazine, been racing, testing, working on development plus being a bit of a journo for many years. He absolutely loves it...in touring guise.
otolith said:
An interesting comment in the EVO video;
Yep, interesting commentary. And actually emphasise my point. The ‘upgrades’ he calls out, namely interior and ‘quality’ are not the elements I prioritised when choosing the Evora. I wanted light, agile, exotic(ish) looking, grin inducing drive and spine tingling sound. Evora delivers in spades. I’m keen to find out how the Emira rates on the same basis…Bovingdon said:
It's such a big step on from the Evora. I've watched a few videos on this car, read a few things early on about it and I was really frustrated that no one compared it to an Evora. But now I sort of understand why because it doesn't call to mind an Evora, it doesn't feel like a re-bodied or a development of the Evora. There's... it's just a different feel. The interior is so much better, the quality feels better it just... for the money, for the first time ever a Lotus feels like a bargain rather than something that's really pushing and will only occur to super hardcore Lotus enthusiasts
Make of that what you will. CTE said:
Watch Harry`s garage, he absolutely knows what he is talking about having set up Evo magazine, been racing, testing, working on development plus being a bit of a journo for many years. He absolutely loves it...in touring guise.
9:20 is when he starts smilinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaYGanifXsk
14:40 grins
When it comes to cars, Lotus is my one true love and I've owned a few. When the Evora first came out I wasn't that struck with it's looks. As an Esprit lover I didn't think it was dramatic or outrageous enough and hoped that over time I would be bought over.
Over the years, I've become used to the look and now love them. My favourite being the gt410 sport with the carbon and more angular front. I'm planning to own my first one some time soon with a main factor being price. I think having one now is a bit like musical chairs, you shouldn't want to be owning one should the prices crash and bottom out.
Current owner seem to talk about Lotus in a contradiction: on one hand they are brilliant, and on the other hand a lack of confidence that their next car will be better than their last. Possibly a defence mechanism to protect their cars value.
For me, the new Emira looks amazing right from the first, unlike the Evora, and the tech, performance and finish, I'm also sure will be better, ( though the Evora's is great ).So to read that Evora fans / owners comments imply that they feel the Emira is little or no improvement, I find odd. Especially as the car isn't available to see, touch or test yet. Plus if your a Lotus fan, you would naturally expect improvements.
I understand that owners wish to protect their investment, but the new car will be very competitively priced ( provided this doesn't change ). Evora owners seem to be holding on to the notion that scarcity factor and their brilliance will keep prices fixed. However, once the Emira becomes readily available on the used car market........ They could be in for a rude awakening !
As I've already said, I plan to buy an Evora but I'm expecting a very late gt410 sport to bottom out on price. Cars at nearly £70k, I believe will be around £50k - £55k. As I said, it's like musical chairs. I wouldn't want to be owning one now with the pending risk. Unless your planning very long term ownership.
There is no point speculating whether I am right or wrong, we will just have to wait and see. For me, my game of musical chairs will end when I feel their values are safe. Should I be proved wrong and their values stay high, I will just wait a bit longer and buy a used Emira, as according to current prices, they will be the cheaper option. However, I don't think I will be proved wrong.
N.B. There are a certain number 2017 and newer cars for sale. These same cars have been for sale for some time and not been sold. I believe that most interested parties are thinking the same as me. As we move closer to the availability of the Emira, selling them will only become increasingly difficult and this will cause the inevitable price shift. I only hope that at that point I will be in a position to buy.
Over the years, I've become used to the look and now love them. My favourite being the gt410 sport with the carbon and more angular front. I'm planning to own my first one some time soon with a main factor being price. I think having one now is a bit like musical chairs, you shouldn't want to be owning one should the prices crash and bottom out.
Current owner seem to talk about Lotus in a contradiction: on one hand they are brilliant, and on the other hand a lack of confidence that their next car will be better than their last. Possibly a defence mechanism to protect their cars value.
For me, the new Emira looks amazing right from the first, unlike the Evora, and the tech, performance and finish, I'm also sure will be better, ( though the Evora's is great ).So to read that Evora fans / owners comments imply that they feel the Emira is little or no improvement, I find odd. Especially as the car isn't available to see, touch or test yet. Plus if your a Lotus fan, you would naturally expect improvements.
I understand that owners wish to protect their investment, but the new car will be very competitively priced ( provided this doesn't change ). Evora owners seem to be holding on to the notion that scarcity factor and their brilliance will keep prices fixed. However, once the Emira becomes readily available on the used car market........ They could be in for a rude awakening !
As I've already said, I plan to buy an Evora but I'm expecting a very late gt410 sport to bottom out on price. Cars at nearly £70k, I believe will be around £50k - £55k. As I said, it's like musical chairs. I wouldn't want to be owning one now with the pending risk. Unless your planning very long term ownership.
There is no point speculating whether I am right or wrong, we will just have to wait and see. For me, my game of musical chairs will end when I feel their values are safe. Should I be proved wrong and their values stay high, I will just wait a bit longer and buy a used Emira, as according to current prices, they will be the cheaper option. However, I don't think I will be proved wrong.
N.B. There are a certain number 2017 and newer cars for sale. These same cars have been for sale for some time and not been sold. I believe that most interested parties are thinking the same as me. As we move closer to the availability of the Emira, selling them will only become increasingly difficult and this will cause the inevitable price shift. I only hope that at that point I will be in a position to buy.
I bought my Evora 400 in January. I was specifically looking for the 400 as I prefer the styling to that of the 410. I know that probably makes me odd. It's a 2016 car and had done 23,000 miles when I purchased it. It's now on 29,000 miles! During that time I have had a couple of issues, a window actuator that failed and a faulty MAF sensor. But nothing major.
This is only my second ever Lotus and I bought it with a view to running it for a couple of years and then maybe swapping it for an Emira. For me the only real world difference that the Emira has over the Evora is the exterior styling and the quality of the interior.
At the moment I am still very very happy with the Evora and actually love the fact that it doesn't feel like a mainstream car with all it little "built in a shed" foibles. Will I swap for an Emira? I don't know TBH, I am certainly in no rush to at the moment but I guess I am still in the honeymoon period with the Evora. Time will tell.
This is only my second ever Lotus and I bought it with a view to running it for a couple of years and then maybe swapping it for an Emira. For me the only real world difference that the Emira has over the Evora is the exterior styling and the quality of the interior.
At the moment I am still very very happy with the Evora and actually love the fact that it doesn't feel like a mainstream car with all it little "built in a shed" foibles. Will I swap for an Emira? I don't know TBH, I am certainly in no rush to at the moment but I guess I am still in the honeymoon period with the Evora. Time will tell.
ziggy328 said:
I bought my Evora 400 in January. I was specifically looking for the 400 as I prefer the styling to that of the 410. I know that probably makes me odd. It's a 2016 car and had done 23,000 miles when I purchased it. It's now on 29,000 miles! During that time I have had a couple of issues, a window actuator that failed and a faulty MAF sensor. But nothing major.
This is only my second ever Lotus and I bought it with a view to running it for a couple of years and then maybe swapping it for an Emira. For me the only real world difference that the Emira has over the Evora is the exterior styling and the quality of the interior.
At the moment I am still very very happy with the Evora and actually love the fact that it doesn't feel like a mainstream car with all it little "built in a shed" foibles. Will I swap for an Emira? I don't know TBH, I am certainly in no rush to at the moment but I guess I am still in the honeymoon period with the Evora. Time will tell.
I also own a 400, I didn’t really like the styling of the original Evora but seeing a 400on display at an airport! The black pack and redesign sold me. This is only my second ever Lotus and I bought it with a view to running it for a couple of years and then maybe swapping it for an Emira. For me the only real world difference that the Emira has over the Evora is the exterior styling and the quality of the interior.
At the moment I am still very very happy with the Evora and actually love the fact that it doesn't feel like a mainstream car with all it little "built in a shed" foibles. Will I swap for an Emira? I don't know TBH, I am certainly in no rush to at the moment but I guess I am still in the honeymoon period with the Evora. Time will tell.
I agree, there is a bit “built in shed” and that struck a cord with me, there a bit more hand made and analog and I like the classic instruments.
I love the EMIRA styling, but as some quoted on a forum there a bit famine.
The number of Evoras (all marks) available to buy continues to decrease circa only 15 x comparable-ish one’s available (and most of those have 4 x seats). Prices seem to have already adjusted with the new Emira inbound. I am still expecting Evora prices to continue their gradual decline. As has been said before, the Emira doesn’t cover the same bases as all the marks of Evora and anyone expecting a sudden price drop is dreaming (even if it is a nice dream!).
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