Evora - first 200 models

[RonnieP]

bordseye said:

Stu_00 said:

I wonder if the Lotus team read this over a cup of tea and a biscuit during there breaks to have a chuckle.

The way that their efforts are endlessly and unrealistically criticised by forum members, I would guess they avoid reading what is said here if they can.

Well said - there are folk (no names but you know who you are ) on here who reckon their mission in life is to criticise Lotus at every opportunity. Not me just bought a SC Elise to keep the 111s company in the garage - it really is a lovely car

[RobM77]

RonnieP said:

bordseye said:

Stu_00 said:

I wonder if the Lotus team read this over a cup of tea and a biscuit during there breaks to have a chuckle.

The way that their efforts are endlessly and unrealistically criticised by forum members, I would guess they avoid reading what is said here if they can.

Well said - there are folk (no names but you know who you are ) on here who reckon their mission in life is to criticise Lotus at every opportunity. Not me just bought a SC Elise to keep the 111s company in the garage - it really is a lovely car

Maybe I've been turning a blind eye, but I haven't noticed much Lotus criticism on here of late? Yes, the Evora's pig ugly, but I think most of us agree on that. I haven't heard any specific criticism of Lotus - they build the best driver's cars in the world, and I think almost everyone has that opinion don't they?..

[RonnieP]

Perhaps my forum thread reading is in the third dimension then or you are more selective in your reading Rob

[RobM77]

RonnieP said:

Perhaps my forum thread reading is in the third dimension then or you are more selective in your reading Rob

Probably the latter

[Twit]

RobM77 said:

Maybe I've been turning a blind eye, but I haven't noticed much Lotus criticism on here of late? Yes, the Evora's pig ugly, but I think most of us agree on that. I haven't heard any specific criticism of Lotus - they build the best driver's cars in the world, and I think almost everyone has that opinion don't they?..

Spot on, all I, and others, have ever said is the car is ugly and seems a bit expensive. I bet its great to drive and I'm looking forward to driving it! You never know even the looks will be ok in real life!

Everyone wants Lotus to go from strength to strength and I really hope this car does it for them!

[RobM77]

Twit said:

RobM77 said:

Maybe I've been turning a blind eye, but I haven't noticed much Lotus criticism on here of late? Yes, the Evora's pig ugly, but I think most of us agree on that. I haven't heard any specific criticism of Lotus - they build the best driver's cars in the world, and I think almost everyone has that opinion don't they?..

Spot on, all I, and others, have ever said is the car is ugly and seems a bit expensive. I bet its great to drive and I'm looking forward to driving it! You never know even the looks will be ok in real life! Everyone wants Lotus to go from strength to strength

Thanks. I've seen the car in the flesh and it does have more presence and grace than in photos. It's still not a pretty car though and yes, no one can deny it's very expensive for a car with an off the shelf engine, but it was always going to be expensive given that a relatively small manufacturer is making it. The benefits of that focus should be obvious in driving it :-)

[Monkey boy 1]

bordseye said:

Stu_00 said:

I wonder if the Lotus team read this over a cup of tea and a biscuit during there breaks to have a chuckle.

The way that their efforts are endlessly and unrealistically criticised by forum members, I would guess they avoid reading what is said here if they can.

No, some of us have a good chuckle at what people "think" is happening. Some if it is wildly inaccurate, others are not far off the mark, but as said before, confidentiality restricts what can be said.

[cyberface]

Monkey boy 1 said:

bordseye said:

Stu_00 said:

I wonder if the Lotus team read this over a cup of tea and a biscuit during there breaks to have a chuckle.

The way that their efforts are endlessly and unrealistically criticised by forum members, I would guess they avoid reading what is said here if they can.

No, some of us have a good chuckle at what people "think" is happening. Some if it is wildly inaccurate, others are not far off the mark, but as said before, confidentiality restricts what can be said.

So the electric 'Tesla' Evora with the nuclear batteries isn't happening then?

Or the Lotusified Tesla Roadster with an onboard 1.5 litre V12 to provide power to the batteries - that been scrapped as well?

Damn de damn damn. Really fancied a nuclear electric Evora

[sone]

Don't know if anyone else has said this so sorry if they have but the Evora has 2 problems 1 is it's to expensive for what it is but more importantly it's lacking grunt. I thought this would be the car to get me back in a Lotus but I think not. Think I will hang on for the Esprit, but then again using this as a yard stick it will be around the 100k mark.

[bogie]

you can always go faster for quicker, and cheaper...the Evora is bang on the performance and price of the benchmark Cayman S, and theyve achieved the aim of meeting that benchmark according to the reviews so far.....

I think the new Esprit will be more like £120-140K and compete with Lamborghini and Ferrari ...where it should be if it wants to be a "supercar" these days

[TIPPER]

sone said:

Don't know if anyone else has said this so sorry if they have but the Evora has 2 problems 1 is it's to expensive for what it is but more importantly it's lacking grunt. I thought this would be the car to get me back in a Lotus but I think not. Think I will hang on for the Esprit, but then again using this as a yard stick it will be around the 100k mark.

More focused and powerful versions are in the pipeline. I'd put aside about £70k given current pricing.
Re lacking grunt: to me a Lotus has never been neccessarily about straight line speed. Its more about the purity of the driving experience. I currently run a very raw (but not particularly fast) S1 Elise that is a tremendously rewarding drive. Eventually I know I'll be too old to keep getting in and out of the thing and up till now an XK or 911 had been on my radar as a sporting GT. The reviews I've read of the Evora seem to put it into that camp but with the added bonus of being a very rewarding drive.
2,000 units a year Globally is Lotus sales target: I think the buyers are there and the car will be another success for Lotus. If it is then we can look forward to the Esprit.