The Official Liverpool Thread, Volume 4

The Official Liverpool Thread, Volume 4

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TheHeretic

73,668 posts

255 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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I reckon you will have the same spend as you had last year, about 25-30 million. A new manager won't come in to a club like Liverpool without a transfer kitty of that sort of size, especially with that sort of expectation.

GALLARDOGUY

8,160 posts

219 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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A reasonable assumption.

deadmau5

3,197 posts

180 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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TheHeretic said:
I reckon you will have the same spend as you had last year, about 25-30 million. A new manager won't come in to a club like Liverpool without a transfer kitty of that sort of size, especially with that sort of expectation.
Let's hope they're not vetting the prospective managers on the least amount of transfer funds they'd settle for...

Raja

8,290 posts

235 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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Rafa - pick a fight in an empty room and given time will ps off the best of players
AVB - doesn't need time it seems to ps off his players - maybe Chelsea was just a bad fit.
Martinez - flavour of the month, talked up for beating relegation. Potential?

Maybe other names in the reckoning yet. Time will tell

m3sye

26,231 posts

201 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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Rafa would be my choice if they said look here is 50/60m sell a few then spend! If we give him 15/20m no good ! He is good at buying quality players, the others I'm not convinced!

VB - from what I can read there seems to be so much crap coming people on the inside at Chelsea with things he did and try to do! Yes he problems with older players but it seems there is more than that!

Rogers- pointless ruled himself out

Maybe gamble with Martinez based on his philosphy like Barca did with Pep ??

hornetrider

63,161 posts

205 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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For all those championing Martinez, seriously, wtf. Wigan have been st ever since he's been there. They do not play pretty football. After what he did at Swansea this has always puzzled me - but it is a fact. Half a dozen games to escape relegation do not a good manager make.

Eddw86

742 posts

187 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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Raja said:
Rafa - pick a fight in an empty room and given time will ps off the best of players
AVB - doesn't need time it seems to ps off his players - maybe Chelsea was just a bad fit.
Martinez - flavour of the month, talked up for beating relegation. Potential?

Maybe other names in the reckoning yet. Time will tell
Rafa, picked a lot of fights, at a time when IMO they needed fighting - the stories I've hear about Purslow playing football manager with Liverpool & turning down Rafas requests - he touted Lucas around that summer for example. Plus the fights with the yanks go without saying.

He did piss of some players but he also got the best out of them, some of the best players still speak very highly of him. Gerrard, Torres etc all peaked under Rafa. Tactically brilliant.

Rafa gave me my best memories of football - 4-1 against Real Madrid, & Man Utd as well as the obvious.

However can't see it happening.

AVB, undoubtedly did a great job at Porto etc but there have been some disturbing stories from inside Chelsea - incredibly arrogant man some say.

I think AVB is the front runner.

Martinez - saved them from relegation yes, also got them in to it... Flavour of the month which makes me wary.

Black can man

31,838 posts

168 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2012
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http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/wigan-...


Second interview ? looks like he's going to be the new man


I like him & hope he does well

Uhura fighter

7,018 posts

183 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2012
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Black can man said:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/wigan-...


Second interview ? looks like he's going to be the new man


I like him & hope he does well
hehe

Fast running out of targets..... Who at the mirror knows the targets? People like De Boer who have ruled themselves out never actualy made the shortlist. Well, other than the one sky drew up....

I am pinning my hope on that chap that lives near Raja and runs the under 11s side, he hasn't ruled himself out has he?

Wadeski

8,157 posts

213 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2012
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I think all the chat of liverpool spending another 30m is crazy optimism. They spent big last year and had their worst performance in over a decade - no way the owners are going to shell out again.

if you were the boss, you would be saying "make do with the 30m worth of players from last year and we'll see about some new ones"

deadmau5

3,197 posts

180 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2012
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Wadeski said:
I think all the chat of liverpool spending another 30m is crazy optimism. They spent big last year and had their worst performance in over a decade - no way the owners are going to shell out again.

if you were the boss, you would be saying "make do with the 30m worth of players from last year and we'll see about some new ones"
If they want to find the right man for the job, they are almost certainly going to have to offer him some funds. Baring in mind £15m doesn't go very far unless you're Newcastle, £30m maybe the minimum we need to spend.

Pommygranite

14,250 posts

216 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2012
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I don't mind who they appoint as long as we, the board and the players get behind him and return to the unity we used to see. They, with their advisers, I would think know more than we do.

2seas

3,678 posts

183 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2012
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Look at the number of big name managers who have been sacked by Chelsea. Surely that many good managers can't all have failed to get the tactics/strategy/formations right? It suggests to me that Chelsea as a club (probably the owner and the big players) are a nightmare to deal with, and none of those managers got a fair shot... Classic example of not giving managers enough time to exert their influence.

I think RDM did well because he just let the players get on with it and fed their egos. This clearly had a great short term affect but does he have what it takes to steer the club in the long term? - the latter meaning he will at some point have to force his own strategy on the players.

For this reason I wouldn't say that AVB being sacked by Chelsea suggests he can't do a job give the right support.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

205 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2012
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I think it's fair to say all the speculation about names at the moment is coming from the press, not the club.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/li...

Black can man

31,838 posts

168 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2012
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2seas said:
Look at the number of big name managers who have been sacked by Chelsea. Surely that many good managers can't all have failed to get the tactics/strategy/formations right? It suggests to me that Chelsea as a club (probably the owner and the big players) are a nightmare to deal with, and none of those managers got a fair shot... Classic example of not giving managers enough time to exert their influence.

I think RDM did well because he just let the players get on with it and fed their egos. This clearly had a great short term affect but does he have what it takes to steer the club in the long term? - the latter meaning he will at some point have to force his own strategy on the players.

For this reason I wouldn't say that AVB being sacked by Chelsea suggests he can't do a job give the right support.
The fans would soon get fed up with their defensive tactics every time they come up against someone decent , Think it's obvious that the old guard at Chelsea a running the team

The players have to be happy with their manager & i feel AVB may not get the respect by some of the more senior pro's at liverpool , of course i could be wrong ,

Whom ever FSG decide to bring it will be a hard task fill the boots of your previous manager & be accepted by the players & fans

Dav_s

1,774 posts

192 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2012
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(cough)...Rafa...(cough)

The Highway Man

6,008 posts

178 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2012
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Dav_s said:
(cough)...Rafa...(cough)
Ditto!! would love to see him back. wink

im

34,302 posts

217 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2012
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Dav_s said:
(cough)...Rafa...(cough)
(cough)...not gonna happen...(cough)

im

34,302 posts

217 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2012
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Whoever's chosen is on hiding to nothing: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18157122

Flip Martian

19,654 posts

190 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2012
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hornetrider said:
I think it's fair to say all the speculation about names at the moment is coming from the press, not the club.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/li...
It is definitely an art - writing an article totally based on your own ideas and presenting it as fact...
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