Cristiano Ronaldo
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okgo said:
I don’t doubt however that PED use is common in football, tennis and rugby is basically like Mr World these days owning to lack of testing. But someone being lean isn’t exactly a red alarm for it.
He’s a walking chemistry set. He isn’t just lean, he has that dry look and excessive vascularity, where the veins become more prominent in the surface of the skin. He changed overnight, I think Gary Neville suspects what is going on. markcoznottz said:
okgo said:
I don’t doubt however that PED use is common in football, tennis and rugby is basically like Mr World these days owning to lack of testing. But someone being lean isn’t exactly a red alarm for it.
He’s a walking chemistry set. He isn’t just lean, he has that dry look and excessive vascularity, where the veins become more prominent in the surface of the skin. He changed overnight, I think Gary Neville suspects what is going on. Ronaldo is obsessive about his condition and fitness. Lots of stories about him always doing additional training, hitting the gym etc.
Fantastic athlete and one of the best of all time.
Ronaldo is the greatest striker for me, the fact he didn't start playing as an out an out striker until his move to Madrid, yet still scored a ridiculous amount for ManU. He is unbelievable, so single minded, I love watching him play.
He has also adapted his game as he's aged, 36, and still brilliant.
He has also adapted his game as he's aged, 36, and still brilliant.
markcoznottz said:
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
markcoznottz said:
Ronald definitely on peds of some sort, I can’t find the article but he has been down to about 7% body fat at times. That’s not possible naturally.
Yes it is, because I'm under 7% (measured in a lab). I'm only 5ft 6in but weigh 53kgs as a hill-climbing cyclist and runner.I eat a whole foods diet, I eat no artificial or man made crap, loads of fruit and veg in my diet (approx 10-15 portions/day). Saying someone's on PEDs because of their body fat is absurd. It absolutely can be done.
You're a plonker.
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
markcoznottz said:
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
markcoznottz said:
Ronald definitely on peds of some sort, I can’t find the article but he has been down to about 7% body fat at times. That’s not possible naturally.
Yes it is, because I'm under 7% (measured in a lab). I'm only 5ft 6in but weigh 53kgs as a hill-climbing cyclist and runner.I eat a whole foods diet, I eat no artificial or man made crap, loads of fruit and veg in my diet (approx 10-15 portions/day). Saying someone's on PEDs because of their body fat is absurd. It absolutely can be done.
You're a plonker.
https://twitter.com/ckelly52/status/50009665207062...
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
So you've posted a twitter post which doesn't actually have any evidence behind it, just someone's thoughts. People have got far more muscular that that without doing steroids. You are just a moron making assumptions.
I remember a time when people came on forums to ‘find stuff out’ or to share ideas. When did that change to cheap insults? Is this the way now?. Here’s a question then. The big R. What is he doing now that other players in the 80’s-90’s weren’t? , because I never saw any footballers at his age as ripped as that, and the training was brutal back then, especially the wenger era onwards. What’s the difference, be specific if you can without resorting to throwing round insults. markcoznottz said:
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
So you've posted a twitter post which doesn't actually have any evidence behind it, just someone's thoughts. People have got far more muscular that that without doing steroids. You are just a moron making assumptions.
I remember a time when people came on forums to ‘find stuff out’ or to share ideas. When did that change to cheap insults? Is this the way now?. Here’s a question then. The big R. What is he doing now that other players in the 80’s-90’s weren’t? , because I never saw any footballers at his age as ripped as that, and the training was brutal back then, especially the wenger era onwards. What’s the difference, be specific if you can without resorting to throwing round insults. There might not be much difference in training on the pitch, but what is evident from his various postings (social media etc) is that he takes his health very, very seriously. Many of the footballers in the 80s and 90s were happy to go to get pissed at a club on a Saturday night after a match, Ronaldo doesn't.
Is it hard to imagine that Ronaldo simply does more core stability training than your average footballer and therefore has a physique matching someone who does more core stability training? Someone who looks after themselves, clearly has a very good work ethic (as expressed by his peers) and takes eating very cleanly seriously has a different physique from someone who doesn't do the same, and you say he's taking drugs, despite passing drugs tests being harder than ever.....
Might I suggest you tell FIFA and WADA about his drug scandals, because clearly you know more than they do.
Edited by TyrannosauRoss Lex on Sunday 20th June 10:54
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
markcoznottz said:
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
So you've posted a twitter post which doesn't actually have any evidence behind it, just someone's thoughts. People have got far more muscular that that without doing steroids. You are just a moron making assumptions.
I remember a time when people came on forums to ‘find stuff out’ or to share ideas. When did that change to cheap insults? Is this the way now?. Here’s a question then. The big R. What is he doing now that other players in the 80’s-90’s weren’t? , because I never saw any footballers at his age as ripped as that, and the training was brutal back then, especially the wenger era onwards. What’s the difference, be specific if you can without resorting to throwing round insults. There might not be much difference in training on the pitch, but what is evident from his various postings (social media etc) is that he takes his health very, very seriously. Many of the footballers in the 80s and 90s were happy to go to get pissed at a club on a Saturday night after a match, Ronaldo doesn't.
Is it hard to imagine that Ronaldo simply does more core stability training than your average footballer and therefore has a physique matching someone who does more core stability training? Someone who looks after themselves, clearly has a very good work ethic (as expressed by his peers) and takes eating very cleanly seriously has a different physique from someone who doesn't do the same, and you say he's taking drugs, despite passing drugs tests being harder than ever.....
Might I suggest you tell FIFA and WADA about his drug scandals, because clearly you know more than they do.
Edited by TyrannosauRoss Lex on Sunday 20th June 10:54
Zen_Master said:
Messi managed to drag an Argentina team which was way worse than this current Portugal team to extra time in a World Cup final against a far stronger Germany team compared to their current squad.
Ronaldo could never.
Ronaldo is 36 now. Ronaldo has already dragged Portugal to a euros win. Whats your point? A young messi in peak years didn't win a world cup? When a still old Ronaldo at 32 end of peak still managed to win the euros? Ronaldo could never.
markcoznottz said:
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
markcoznottz said:
Ronald definitely on peds of some sort, I can’t find the article but he has been down to about 7% body fat at times. That’s not possible naturally.
Yes it is, because I'm under 7% (measured in a lab). I'm only 5ft 6in but weigh 53kgs as a hill-climbing cyclist and runner.I eat a whole foods diet, I eat no artificial or man made crap, loads of fruit and veg in my diet (approx 10-15 portions/day). Saying someone's on PEDs because of their body fat is absurd. It absolutely can be done.
markcoznottz said:
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
markcoznottz said:
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
So you've posted a twitter post which doesn't actually have any evidence behind it, just someone's thoughts. People have got far more muscular that that without doing steroids. You are just a moron making assumptions.
I remember a time when people came on forums to ‘find stuff out’ or to share ideas. When did that change to cheap insults? Is this the way now?. Here’s a question then. The big R. What is he doing now that other players in the 80’s-90’s weren’t? , because I never saw any footballers at his age as ripped as that, and the training was brutal back then, especially the wenger era onwards. What’s the difference, be specific if you can without resorting to throwing round insults. There might not be much difference in training on the pitch, but what is evident from his various postings (social media etc) is that he takes his health very, very seriously. Many of the footballers in the 80s and 90s were happy to go to get pissed at a club on a Saturday night after a match, Ronaldo doesn't.
Is it hard to imagine that Ronaldo simply does more core stability training than your average footballer and therefore has a physique matching someone who does more core stability training? Someone who looks after themselves, clearly has a very good work ethic (as expressed by his peers) and takes eating very cleanly seriously has a different physique from someone who doesn't do the same, and you say he's taking drugs, despite passing drugs tests being harder than ever.....
Might I suggest you tell FIFA and WADA about his drug scandals, because clearly you know more than they do.
Edited by TyrannosauRoss Lex on Sunday 20th June 10:54
hotchy said:
Ronaldo is 36 now. Ronaldo has already dragged Portugal to a euros win. Whats your point? A young messi in peak years didn't win a world cup? When a still old Ronaldo at 32 end of peak still managed to win the euros?
Dragged them to win he says Ronaldo dragged Portugal to a Euros final, not to a win.
What’s better, dragging a team to the finals of the Euros or dragging them to the finals of the World Cup?
Zen_Master said:
hotchy said:
Ronaldo is 36 now. Ronaldo has already dragged Portugal to a euros win. Whats your point? A young messi in peak years didn't win a world cup? When a still old Ronaldo at 32 end of peak still managed to win the euros?
Dragged them to win he says Ronaldo dragged Portugal to a Euros final, not to a win.
What’s better, dragging a team to the finals of the Euros or dragging them to the finals of the World Cup?
No-one is ever going to deny Ronald is an exceptionally gifted athlete and has made himself into a very good footballer, but after all the build-up from Lineker and Ferdinand last night what did he do in the match? He scored two penalties but apart from that did next to nothing, just jogged about a bit upfront 9maybe that’s his role now) and tried a few tricks unsuccessfully and lost the ball through good tackles more often than not.
As a footballer he’s a distant second, sadly for him.
As a footballer he’s a distant second, sadly for him.
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