The Official Arsenal - 14 x FA Cup winners thread - Vol 4
Discussion
Ascayman said:
jammy-git said:
Quite. Almost the opposite of Liverpool. Our fans have propelled our team on to win games we've had no right to win.
Stick Arsenal in that final in Istanbul and the stadium would have been emptying to the sounds of boos and Wenger Out chants at half time.
They wouldn't have waited that long, their blind hatred of their greatest ever manager over rules everything, they even boo'd him whilst winning the NLD, its beyond belief Stick Arsenal in that final in Istanbul and the stadium would have been emptying to the sounds of boos and Wenger Out chants at half time.
brian clough was forests greatest manager he got them relgated as wouldnt leave when he was past it and the club were to respectful to put save themselves.
Ascayman said:
theplayingmantis said:
Ascayman said:
Arsenal finished 2nd season before last and have won 3 FA Cups in 4 years.
Tainted legacy or ungrateful fans...
fa cup that no one cares about since united devalued it and 2nd in a 1 horse race...yeah we are so ungrateful...Tainted legacy or ungrateful fans...
aeropilot said:
Black can man said:
Glassman said:
As soon as Theo saw how well equipped the physio room is at Goodison Park he knew it was the right move to sign for Everton.
it does indicate that hopefully, Sven and Raul are starting to have some influence, in clearing out the dross at last, especially if giroud goes and we get aubyamang (i don't believe it and even if we do AW will try to trun him inot a left winger...) now any one want ramsey on a free??
Cupramax said:
Don't see the negativity towards Giroud, he's been pretty efficient this season especially with the lack of starts. I'd rather we kept hold of him. If anyone needs to go it's Welbeck.
Agree 100%.Different to the other options and has been a pretty reliable source of goals from the bench. Him leaving (if he does) will more be down to him- it's World Cup year and pretty sure he's still considered first choice striker for France, but that won't continue whilst he's playing the role of super-sub at club level. He needs regular starts now and he's just not going to get that at Arsenal.
theplayingmantis said:
Ascayman said:
theplayingmantis said:
Ascayman said:
Arsenal finished 2nd season before last and have won 3 FA Cups in 4 years.
Tainted legacy or ungrateful fans...
fa cup that no one cares about since united devalued it and 2nd in a 1 horse race...yeah we are so ungrateful...Tainted legacy or ungrateful fans...
ok fair enough on giroud, he is a decent impact sub, and useful change of plan, but i maintain you couldn't seriously challenge for a title with him as the main man as he was for years.
plus we need to remember he is also on well north of 100k a week which is astonishing given how little he is used. I would still rather have Aubyamang and Lacazette than him if its a straight choice, even if OG is ahead in the French pecking order than AL. all 3 would be together would be nice.
i think he would be very useful if we played 2 up front, but with AW we will never do that.
the decline of lackofthreat as some wags have started using is another issue with the system. I think hes a decent striker but his time in Lyon was spent running onto through balls and scoring. i havent seen him score one goal like that for us (actually not a surprise as i dont bother to watch us anymore as its groundhog day). Those who do still go concur, we are playing him as the focal point in pur silly formation and asking him to hold it up. hes simply not that sort of srtiker.
plus we need to remember he is also on well north of 100k a week which is astonishing given how little he is used. I would still rather have Aubyamang and Lacazette than him if its a straight choice, even if OG is ahead in the French pecking order than AL. all 3 would be together would be nice.
i think he would be very useful if we played 2 up front, but with AW we will never do that.
the decline of lackofthreat as some wags have started using is another issue with the system. I think hes a decent striker but his time in Lyon was spent running onto through balls and scoring. i havent seen him score one goal like that for us (actually not a surprise as i dont bother to watch us anymore as its groundhog day). Those who do still go concur, we are playing him as the focal point in pur silly formation and asking him to hold it up. hes simply not that sort of srtiker.
Ascayman said:
theplayingmantis said:
Ascayman said:
theplayingmantis said:
Ascayman said:
Arsenal finished 2nd season before last and have won 3 FA Cups in 4 years.
Tainted legacy or ungrateful fans...
fa cup that no one cares about since united devalued it and 2nd in a 1 horse race...yeah we are so ungrateful...Tainted legacy or ungrateful fans...
the big clubs have been fielding weakened team in it ever since. its willful blindness to claim they haven't. even those who haven't won a pot in years like totnum don't go all out for it.
The traditionalists and BBC maintain the magic of the FA cup but since the premier league ate itself and money became the be all and end all the cup has been dying ever since.
Its not even the big clubs, premier league survival and championship promotion are given priority of it too look at the teams put out in recent seasons when a league game is shortly before or after. Most championship managers see it as an inconvenience. Ask Mick McCarthy. A cup run will still generate worthwhile cash for a non league or league 2 club but its simply not what it was for the rest.
the romance of the cup is dying, thats modern football for you.
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