The Official Arsenal - 14 x FA Cup winners thread - Vol 4
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Glassman said:
I get the impression there's something between the players.
It also doesn't help when the fans don't hold the boos back. Booing at half time is shameful. Get behind the team. There aren't many players who don't feed off the fans.
I think there was just a level of despair at the performance we'd put in that first half. We were awful. I agree, half time booing is not on, but neither is appearing to simply not care/try as a player. It also doesn't help when the fans don't hold the boos back. Booing at half time is shameful. Get behind the team. There aren't many players who don't feed off the fans.
Cupramax said:
And yes after another pathetic display of second rate defending I’m thinking Rafa might not be such a bad idea, I still say our problem is more midfield related not giving any cover, purely than just clueless defending.
It's defence and midfield that are weak and our expensive forward line is lacking.Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 6th December 13:20
Stick with Freddie, miss out on both Euro comps, play next season with new manager, Saliba and only three domestic comps.
Auba will be in his final year of contract by then - we're not getting CL this season of course, and I can't this team winning the EL so we can roll the dice next season, try to get back into the top four and hope he signs a new deal.
Auba will be in his final year of contract by then - we're not getting CL this season of course, and I can't this team winning the EL so we can roll the dice next season, try to get back into the top four and hope he signs a new deal.
Except the risk of sticking with Freddie is that it could lead us into a relegation scrap. Let's be honest, you could make a case for arsenal being the worst team in the league currently. You wouldn't back us to beat anyone.
If you look at the list of favourites then it's Freddie, Arteta and Vieira. Allegri is there but he won't go anywhere till the summer, Rafa is going to cost too much (though I'm sure he'd bite our hand off if offered), Rodgers is high on the list of favourites but he's just been ruled out with the new contract.
Pochettino is still available and surely ancelloti will be available soon. The list is shrinking.
If you look at the list of favourites then it's Freddie, Arteta and Vieira. Allegri is there but he won't go anywhere till the summer, Rafa is going to cost too much (though I'm sure he'd bite our hand off if offered), Rodgers is high on the list of favourites but he's just been ruled out with the new contract.
Pochettino is still available and surely ancelloti will be available soon. The list is shrinking.
cbmotorsport said:
An unproven manager should view this situation as career suicide. I should think Pep is advising Arteta to bide his time and wait, don't take the hospital pass that is Arsenal at the moment.
I am sure he is being advised that.....this isn’t a job for a first time manager. There are clearly huge issues within the squad (Ozil was calling out Lacazette as he walked off the pitch last night)....just don’t think a new manager or even say PV4 would be right for this squad in this situation.The thing that worries me is that Raul having appointed Emery can’t f
k this up or he’ll be gone too. That makes me worry that he’ll go for something populist like Arteta and look to hide behind that is if goes wrong JaFool1 said:
Is this a squad issue or a mentality issue? If it is the latter then surely hiring a manager of different style (Simeone, Allegri) would be the better than looking for managers of a similar style to the past?
It’s a combination of mentality, what looks like piss poor coaching to me (which is what ex players like Less Dixon are saying) and I think squad. Which is why there is no easy fix.You can have the best manager in the world with a squad coached and playing a great system but if you have individuals who are capable of basic errors then you have problems. Our problem is we seem to have the latter....like Xhaka getting dispossessed last night. Some of the individual errors you can put down to the system...Sokratis has made a few hideous errors playing out from the back but he should never be asked to do so.
Cheib said:
cbmotorsport said:
An unproven manager should view this situation as career suicide. I should think Pep is advising Arteta to bide his time and wait, don't take the hospital pass that is Arsenal at the moment.
I am sure he is being advised that.....this isn’t a job for a first time manager. There are clearly huge issues within the squad (Ozil was calling out Lacazette as he walked off the pitch last night)....just don’t think a new manager or even say PV4 would be right for this squad in this situation.The thing that worries me is that Raul having appointed Emery can’t f
k this up or he’ll be gone too. That makes me worry that he’ll go for something populist like Arteta and look to hide behind that is if goes wrong The name I keep seeing in the press is Marcelino, the former Valencia manager.
He did a pretty good job at Valencia until falling out with the nutty club owner over the summer.
aeropilot said:
I hope Pep can convince Arteta to stay at City, as I don't think he's the answer, well not yet at any rate. A virgin coach/manager is NOT what we need right now, old boy or not.
The name I keep seeing in the press is Marcelino, the former Valencia manager.
He did a pretty good job at Valencia until falling out with the nutty club owner over the summer.
Yes because what you want is a Premiership virgin manager to take over in December, that always goes well The name I keep seeing in the press is Marcelino, the former Valencia manager.
He did a pretty good job at Valencia until falling out with the nutty club owner over the summer.
TEKNOPUG said:
aeropilot said:
I hope Pep can convince Arteta to stay at City, as I don't think he's the answer, well not yet at any rate. A virgin coach/manager is NOT what we need right now, old boy or not.
The name I keep seeing in the press is Marcelino, the former Valencia manager.
He did a pretty good job at Valencia until falling out with the nutty club owner over the summer.
Yes because what you want is a Premiership virgin manager to take over in December, that always goes well The name I keep seeing in the press is Marcelino, the former Valencia manager.
He did a pretty good job at Valencia until falling out with the nutty club owner over the summer.
But, unless they ring Big Fat Sam I don't see any of the likely incoming options having much PL experience, so we're largely fooked anyway in that regard.
At least BFS would sort out the ruddy defense though.....
I guess it depends whether the board recognise that current form could potentially lead to a relegation fight and therefore appoint someone accordingly to guarantee avoiding the unthinkable; eg BFS to the end of the season. Or assume things will turn around a d there are worse teams so stick with Fred and wait until there are better options in the summer. Or appoint a proven outside the Prem manager and hope it doesn't take him 3 months to get up speed.
Everything suggests that Stan is happy just picking up the 9 figure Prem TV money associated sponsorship, so you'd assume he realise that relegation (a foreign concept to a Yank) would be a disaster. Mind you, if you want the ownership to change, relegation may be the quickest route.
Woukd love to be a fly on the wall at the board meetings.
Everything suggests that Stan is happy just picking up the 9 figure Prem TV money associated sponsorship, so you'd assume he realise that relegation (a foreign concept to a Yank) would be a disaster. Mind you, if you want the ownership to change, relegation may be the quickest route.
Woukd love to be a fly on the wall at the board meetings.
Gadgetmac said:
Glassman said:
Losses published.
This should kick something into action.
A £23m loss for 18/19, astounding.This should kick something into action.
What action do you think this will jump start?
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