The Official Arsenal - 14 x FA Cup winners thread - Vol 4
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gadgetmac said:
You Arsenal fans are a fickle bunch. Do you not support your team through the bad times as well as the good? Hate to say it but the Spuds supporters put you to shame.
I'm going to tomorrow night to the Red Star Belgrade game.....still watch every game I can. Doesn't mean I am not pissed off at the current malaise. Cheib said:
gadgetmac said:
You Arsenal fans are a fickle bunch. Do you not support your team through the bad times as well as the good? Hate to say it but the Spuds supporters put you to shame.
I'm going to tomorrow night to the Red Star Belgrade game.....still watch every game I can. Doesn't mean I am not pissed off at the current malaise. gadgetmac said:
You Arsenal fans are a fickle bunch. Do you not support your team through the bad times as well as the good? Hate to say it but the Spuds supporters put you to shame.
Support the team, not the regime is where the majority of Arsenal fans lie.Spuds are used to underperforming, we Arsenal fans expect/demand better.
Insert Coin said:
gadgetmac said:
You Arsenal fans are a fickle bunch. Do you not support your team through the bad times as well as the good? Hate to say it but the Spuds supporters put you to shame.
Support the team, not the regime is where the majority of Arsenal fans lie.Spuds are used to underperforming, we Arsenal fans expect/demand better.
Dinlowgoon said:
jammy-git said:
Dinlowgoon said:
Just seeing how well the English teams are doing this season in the CL is an indication of how Arse FC have been holding back our influence in Europe.
AW only ever looked at getting past group phase and extra £££'S for him and his t*sspots. W*nker
I don't think you can make that point until a few English teams have made it through the group stages and into the finals.AW only ever looked at getting past group phase and extra £££'S for him and his t*sspots. W*nker
Besides which, however Arsenal did had no bearing on how the rest of the English teams did. In fact I seem to remember Arsenal frequently being the last English team in the competition.
Time to move over and make way for others who don't just use the CL as a cash cow.
Insert Coin said:
g7jhp said:
Under performing!
A genuine congrats, that's a great result, but hardly representative of the last X number of seasons.I wonder though how long it will be before Real or Barca make Poch an offer he won't be able to refuse.......
aeropilot said:
Insert Coin said:
g7jhp said:
Under performing!
A genuine congrats, that's a great result, but hardly representative of the last X number of seasons.I wonder though how long it will be before Real or Barca make Poch an offer he won't be able to refuse.......
Barca because he’s Espanyol through and through and Madrid because you can’t ‘build’ anything there only buy it. Add to that if Ronaldo or a few other galacticos don’t like you then...
So, you’ll get, on average, 2 years (maybe 3 if you win the ECL a couple of times) and then you are dismissed. It’s a poisoned chalice and I think he knows that.
The same applies at Chelsea and Man City and to a lesser extent United. That only leaves 2 clubs where he’ll be indulged, both in North London, and he’s already at one of them.
Liverpool isn’t even a sideways step at this time and they have Klopp anyway who appears to be very similar to Poch in ‘philosophy’ and personal charm.
At Spuds he appears to have found the almost perfect position for him. He’ll get the time he needs (good knows they’ve waited long enough, a few more years won’t matter) and if they start winning silverware he can build his CV slowly but surely. As I say, I think he’ll be there for a long time.
I’d actually worry more that they are becomming very attractive to top players around the world after matches like last nights and that will increase the competition for the rest of us when looking for fresh talent. 2 years ago I’d have said we were favourites to get Bale should he leave Madrid, now I think its 50/50 that he would return to Spurs.
Depends on trophies in next two seasons, how ambitious Poch is and how much get he gets backed I suspect. Levy drives a hard bargain but with their current wage structure they'll do well to keep that team together....I know there are a lot of players on long contracts but their top players are probably earning 50% of what they could elsewhere. If Levy opens the coffers and retains the quad and adds a few players why wouldn't Poch stay. Whether that happens or not is another issue.
On an Arsenal front having gone to last night's game I enjoyed watching the kids and Wilshere....some of the other senior squad players didn't do themselves favours. Macey and Willock both did well first half and the other kids grew into the game Wilshere was the only player on the pitch who showed any moments of genuine class with the ball at his feet.
Coquelin is woeful if he need to pass the ball more than 10 yards, Walcott only look dangerous if an opportunity is created by the team (he's just a non-event unless surrounded by top class players), Giroud is similar in that vane to Walcott but has a much better touch, Elneny and Holding both did okay at the back though.
On an Arsenal front having gone to last night's game I enjoyed watching the kids and Wilshere....some of the other senior squad players didn't do themselves favours. Macey and Willock both did well first half and the other kids grew into the game Wilshere was the only player on the pitch who showed any moments of genuine class with the ball at his feet.
Coquelin is woeful if he need to pass the ball more than 10 yards, Walcott only look dangerous if an opportunity is created by the team (he's just a non-event unless surrounded by top class players), Giroud is similar in that vane to Walcott but has a much better touch, Elneny and Holding both did okay at the back though.
Axionknight said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Yipper said:
It must be hard for Arsenal fans to watch Tottenham matching giants like Real, while they slum it against minnows like Red Star. Tottenham is fast becoming London's top team.
Red Star are not minnows, they won the European Cup in the 90s and back when Yugoslavia existed they were a team no one wanted to draw. The game finished 0-0
TEKNOPUG said:
mylesmcd said:
TEKNOPUG said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Red Star are not minnows, they won the European Cup in the 90s and back when Yugoslavia existed they were a team no one wanted to draw.
They won the European Cup in 1991. That's like saying Leeds are good because they won the EPL in 1992....Everyone who knows anything about football (that possibly excludes all Spurs fans) knows RSB are a huge club, with a great history, and are not minnows. Regardless of what tough times they've fallen upon.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
TEKNOPUG said:
mylesmcd said:
TEKNOPUG said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Red Star are not minnows, they won the European Cup in the 90s and back when Yugoslavia existed they were a team no one wanted to draw.
They won the European Cup in 1991. That's like saying Leeds are good because they won the EPL in 1992....Everyone who knows anything about football (that possibly excludes all Spurs fans) knows RSB are a huge club, with a great history, and are not minnows. Regardless of what tough times they've fallen upon.
19 November 1996 – 22 March 1997: Mass protests in response to electoral fraud attempted by the regime of Slobodan Milošević after local elections.
21 February 1997: The first non-communist city government since 1944, with Zoran Đinđić as the first non-communist Mayor of Belgrade.
24 March – 10 June 1999: NATO bombing of Yugoslavia. The buildings of the Government of Serbia, Yugoslav Ministry of Defence building, Radio Television of Serbia, Hotel Jugoslavija, Avala Tower, Batajnica Air Base, Chinese embassy, University Hospital Center Dr Dragiša Mišović, and many other buildings and structures in Belgrade are partly or completely destroyed.
5 October 2000: Slobodan Milošević removed from power after huge protests in Belgrade. The House of the National Assembly was set on fire.
4 February 2003: Federal Republic of Yugoslavia changed into Serbia and Montenegro.
12 March 2003: Serbian Prime Minister Zoran Đinđić is assassinated in front of the Government of Serbia building in Nemanjina Street.
21 August 2003: The official opening of the first Belgrade Beer Fest.
31 July 2004: Belgrade Arena, one of the largest multifunctional indoor arenas in Europe officially opened
10 January 2005: The organization of the 2009 Summer Universiade is awarded to Belgrade.
February 2006: Belgrade proclaimed City of Future of South Europe by fDi magazine, a Financial Times publication.
Might be understandable that they couldnt attract the top talent, eh?
gadgetmac said:
aeropilot said:
Insert Coin said:
g7jhp said:
Under performing!
A genuine congrats, that's a great result, but hardly representative of the last X number of seasons.I wonder though how long it will be before Real or Barca make Poch an offer he won't be able to refuse.......
Barca because he’s Espanyol through and through and Madrid because you can’t ‘build’ anything there only buy it. Add to that if Ronaldo or a few other galacticos don’t like you then...
So, you’ll get, on average, 2 years (maybe 3 if you win the ECL a couple of times) and then you are dismissed. It’s a poisoned chalice and I think he knows that.
The same applies at Chelsea and Man City and to a lesser extent United. That only leaves 2 clubs where he’ll be indulged, both in North London, and he’s already at one of them.
Liverpool isn’t even a sideways step at this time and they have Klopp anyway who appears to be very similar to Poch in ‘philosophy’ and personal charm.
At Spuds he appears to have found the almost perfect position for him. He’ll get the time he needs (good knows they’ve waited long enough, a few more years won’t matter) and if they start winning silverware he can build his CV slowly but surely. As I say, I think he’ll be there for a long time.
I’d actually worry more that they are becomming very attractive to top players around the world after matches like last nights and that will increase the competition for the rest of us when looking for fresh talent. 2 years ago I’d have said we were favourites to get Bale should he leave Madrid, now I think its 50/50 that he would return to Spurs.
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