The Official Arsenal - 14 x FA Cup winners thread - Vol 4

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anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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jammy-git said:
Tbh, I think this paints Arsenal in a very minor shade of better light regarding Sanchez. If Sanchez is being a tt about moving to City, one can only imagine how difficult he's been with Arsenal!
He's been a tt for at least two years now. Wenger should of shipped him out long ago and got in a replacement. It was obvious letting it fester for so long there was only going to be one loser, Arsenal.

Black can man

31,830 posts

168 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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aeropilot said:
And yet we might seem to want to go through the same again with Aubameyang.
He seems to come with a lot of baggage, He sounds a bad egg to me.

Great striker mind.

Glassman

22,519 posts

215 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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Someone on Twitter said:
If I had Wengers money I'd be staying in some hotel in Vegas, buried under alcohol bottles with strippers sniffing coke from my arsecrack, not spending my last few years screwing up a football club and having my santity questioned by millions of pissed off Arsenal fans.
hehe but yes

Ascayman

12,746 posts

216 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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Glassman said:
Someone on Twitter said:
If I had Wengers money I'd be staying in some hotel in Vegas, buried under alcohol bottles with strippers sniffing coke from my arsecrack, not spending my last few years screwing up a football club and having my santity questioned by millions of pissed off Arsenal fans.
hehe but yes
Vegas is for your twenties and thirties, personally i couldn't think of anything better to do in semi retirement than spending my last few years screwing up arsenal football club and having my santity questioned by millions of pissed off Arsenal fans

aeropilot

34,477 posts

227 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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Black can man said:
aeropilot said:
And yet we might seem to want to go through the same again with Aubameyang.
He seems to come with a lot of baggage, He sounds a bad egg to me.

Great striker mind.
Indeed.
The fact that the 'bigger' European teams have not shown interest in a striker with his stats says to me that his baggage out-weighs his on-field performances......which to me says we should stay well clear as well..........so I'm he'll be an Arsenal player by the end of the month laugh


Ascayman

12,746 posts

216 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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He's a top striker in the prime of his career, only an arsenal fan could turn that into a negative.

If you can get rid of Sanchez, who lets face it has barely turned up for two years and is complete poison in the dressing room and replace him with a combination off Aubameyang / Malcom or Aubameyang / Mkhitaryan, then arsenal going into the business end of the season are a much stronger outfit.

IMHO.

m3sye

26,231 posts

201 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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Ascayman said:
He's a top striker in the prime of his career, only an arsenal fan could turn that into a negative.

If you can get rid of Sanchez, who lets face it has barely turned up for two years and is complete poison in the dressing room and replace him with a combination off Aubameyang / Malcom or Aubameyang / Mkhitaryan, then arsenal going into the business end of the season are a much stronger outfit.

IMHO.
Totally agree,

Sanchez not been the player he was for a while now - also nearing 30 and how many strikers do you see 30+ who rely on pace really making an impact
Pace players are always in their prime <30

leglessAlex

5,431 posts

141 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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Ascayman said:
He's a top striker in the prime of his career, only an arsenal fan could turn that into a negative.

If you can get rid of Sanchez, who lets face it has barely turned up for two years and is complete poison in the dressing room and replace him with a combination off Aubameyang / Malcom or Aubameyang / Mkhitaryan, then arsenal going into the business end of the season are a much stronger outfit.

IMHO.
While I agree Sanchez is not good for the team spirit/health, He's been one of Arsenal's best performers over the last two years, and was their top scorer in 14/15 and 16/17. He did pretty well in 15/16 too, three goals less than Giroud (who I rate highly) and the second top scorer.

I'd take Aubameyang. He's obviously a brat but the Bournemouth game (and others recently) showed us what life is going to be like without Ozil and Sanchez, and I didn't like it much. I don't think we're attractive enough as a club to be picky about that talent we get, and we certainly don't spend enough for it. As long as we get someone that does actually have talent that's about as much as we can hope for.

Not sure if I'd rather have Miki or Malcom, I don't know enough about either really.

StonedRollin

1,672 posts

210 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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Glassman said:
From an Arsenal point of view, the Sanchez situation is a shambles..................
Indeed it is. Alongwith letting Ozil be out of contract at the end of the season and no deal done with him. And not selling Walcott in the summer when he clearly was out of favour and replacing him with someone else. And also for persisting to play the Ox when he clearly wanted to go. And don't forget this is on the back of the club being stupid enough to allow Wenger's contract to run down at the end of last season with no plan B (heard that before?) thus allowing him to be in a position of strength.

And people on here wonder why we are so fed up with the clustercensoredk of a club that AFC is at the moment.

Yidwann

1,872 posts

210 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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London424 said:
Arsene is in total control at the club, so it all comes back to him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spiAqsdvZnA

Fittster

20,120 posts

213 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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Ascayman said:
He's a top striker in the prime of his career, only an arsenal fan could turn that into a negative.

IMHO.
Prime of his career? He's 29 and relies on his pace.

Ascayman

12,746 posts

216 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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Fittster said:
Prime of his career? He's 29 and relies on his pace.
He's 28,

last 3 seasons have gone

49 games 39 goals
46 games 40 goals
and this season 23 games 21 goals

So yeah prime

Adam B

27,206 posts

254 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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he is a bloody good player who doesn't strike me as pace dependent, given his ability on the ball- also has a fine eye for a killer pass

admittedly I don't watch every Arsenal game but he seems to alternate between giving his all (and being one of the few that does, Ox did to) and sulking on the bench

he could be a poisonous greedy st

he could be a player who is as pissed off with AW and the club as all the fans are so wants out, and knows the next signing is his last chance at a big pay cheque

aeropilot

34,477 posts

227 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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Adam B said:
he is a bloody good player who doesn't strike me as pace dependent, given his ability on the ball- also has a fine eye for a killer pass

admittedly I don't watch every Arsenal game but he seems to alternate between giving his all (and being one of the few that does, Ox did to) and sulking on the bench

he could be a poisonous greedy st

he could be a player who is as pissed off with AW and the club as all the fans are so wants out, and knows the next signing is his last chance at a big pay cheque
Indeed.

Could be either/or, or a bit of both more than likely.

For example, if his prime motivation was wanting out and wanting to go to Pep again at City, he (or his greedy agent) wouldn't have pitched his wage demands at a point that would see your desired move go down the swanny?
So, the fact that City have supposedly pulled the plug on the deal says there is definitely an element of poisonous greedy git there somewhere......although, that could very likely also be the manipulations of a poisonous greedy agent/advisor rather than the player..?







Fittster

20,120 posts

213 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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Ascayman said:
Fittster said:
Prime of his career? He's 29 and relies on his pace.
He's 28,

last 3 seasons have gone

49 games 39 goals
46 games 40 goals
and this season 23 games 21 goals

So yeah prime
https://statsbomb.com/2016/07/player-aging-attacking-players/

Aging striker, long contract, big wages.

Ascayman

12,746 posts

216 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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Fittster said:
Ascayman said:
Fittster said:
Prime of his career? He's 29 and relies on his pace.
He's 28,

last 3 seasons have gone

49 games 39 goals
46 games 40 goals
and this season 23 games 21 goals

So yeah prime
https://statsbomb.com/2016/07/player-aging-attacking-players/

Aging striker, long contract, big wages.
wtf is that ? some people have too much time on their handslaugh

Most people will say that 27/28 is a players prime and his goals prove that. Im not sure what the pretty graphs are saying but theres no way im going to waste any more time looking at that laugh





Adam B

27,206 posts

254 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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aeropilot said:
So, the fact that City have supposedly pulled the plug on the deal says there is definitely an element of poisonous greedy git there somewhere......although, that could very likely also be the manipulations of a poisonous greedy agent/advisor rather than the player..?
City pretend to cool off, after agreeing a fatter sign on bonus for player/agent at end of season, given City save 35M have Jesus back?

how many millions does Sanchez give up for a league winners medal this season?

aeropilot

34,477 posts

227 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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Adam B said:
aeropilot said:
So, the fact that City have supposedly pulled the plug on the deal says there is definitely an element of poisonous greedy git there somewhere......although, that could very likely also be the manipulations of a poisonous greedy agent/advisor rather than the player..?
City pretend to cool off, after agreeing a fatter sign on bonus for player/agent at end of season, given City save 35M have Jesus back?
If he's not signed for Utd by the weekend and still with us after the end of the transfer window, then definitely that's the deal.


theplayingmantis

3,729 posts

82 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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Glassman said:
Two seasons ago, the start of our league campaign was made bearable by Francis Coquelin's performances. He was on fire, and many of us couldn't believe he was on loan at Charlton. He went on and had a decent start to the league campaign until injuries and suspensions phased him out of the first team selection.

Whilst he's not the finished article (still fairly young) what does it say about our planning and foresight that a year after extending his contract (and only using him as a bit part player) the club is willing to sell him to Wet Spam.

I can see this one dividing opinion. I've always liked le coq and thought he could potentially give us the midfield bite we were lacking. He lost his place to Xhaka who isn't exactly the midfield general we need (gives away far too much possession).

Sadly, he joins a list of promising young Gooners who fell by the wayside trying to realise their potential.
wtf, on fire?! he was always has been and always will be bang average. some idiots thought he was good as we hadnt played such a player for a while.

charlton was his level. why he was at the club so long is the big question. francis coqulin as your holding midfielder and you know your in trouble.

theplayingmantis

3,729 posts

82 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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Ascayman said:
Arsenal finished 2nd season before last and have won 3 FA Cups in 4 years.

Tainted legacy or ungrateful fans...
fa cup that no one cares about since united devalued it and 2nd in a 1 horse race...yeah we are so ungrateful...
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