The Official Arsenal - 14 x FA Cup winners thread - Vol 4
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FFS!
I'm no Arse fan, but your lack of , well , anything really is pissing me right off.
My eldest lad made the mistake of supporting Arsenal as a child, and now he's really paying the price for it.
Tonight's result is going to send him into 3 days of miserable moodiness.
Thanks a f
king bunch Arsenal.
I'm no Arse fan, but your lack of , well , anything really is pissing me right off.
My eldest lad made the mistake of supporting Arsenal as a child, and now he's really paying the price for it.
Tonight's result is going to send him into 3 days of miserable moodiness.
Thanks a f
king bunch Arsenal. Carl_Manchester said:
Raygun said:
Carl_Manchester said:
Stay positive my fellow Gooner's. 5 Months until we can jettison this load of ste.
No work at the minute so will probably get drunk and chew this performance out with fellow fans who have travelled down.
Kronke should be buying new players next month.te.No work at the minute so will probably get drunk and chew this performance out with fellow fans who have travelled down.
Fellow posters on here do not agree with me entirely but my point regarding the 3rd tier clubs in the Prem remains, we should have raided them (Watford, Wolves, Burnley etc.) when we had the chance. People are blaming the goings on in the training ground and the truth is, no amount of training is going to fix the back-bone of this team.
Outplayed by Norwich and Brighton, Championship level clubs, what an embarrassment.
I don't know where to begin with this.
I don't blame Fred, he has inherited a cancerous squad. I doubt he can sort it....but would Klopp or Pep? Not without a lot of time and money. Only one of which we have.
Unai had more time to cut it out but failed. Ultimately couldn't address fundamental issues.
Messrs Wenger and Kronke set the rot years ago. From then it was sleep walking into oblivion.
This club is struggling so much for air, it's going to take years to breath again. Here comes the long haul folks....
( I wonder if Alfahorn is still reading here....hope you're ok chief and the recent events haven't given you a coronary
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I don't blame Fred, he has inherited a cancerous squad. I doubt he can sort it....but would Klopp or Pep? Not without a lot of time and money. Only one of which we have.
Unai had more time to cut it out but failed. Ultimately couldn't address fundamental issues.
Messrs Wenger and Kronke set the rot years ago. From then it was sleep walking into oblivion.
This club is struggling so much for air, it's going to take years to breath again. Here comes the long haul folks....
( I wonder if Alfahorn is still reading here....hope you're ok chief and the recent events haven't given you a coronary
) New players won’t help....lets say you get two or three players from a Top 4 side.....I don’t care who it is the way the rest of the team if playing they will just get brought down to the same level. AS Lee Dixon said post match last night they’ve just got to spend days and say on the training pitch learning how to defend as a team....that starts with midfield. As for upfront I’d start by putting Lacazette on the bench, play Aubameyang in the middle and if Pepe and Ozil aren’t prepared to work hard off the ball they can sit on the bench too.
Freddie need to work out which 11 players are prepared to work hard for 90 mins and play them. I love Bellerin but in his post match interview last night he said all the players gave 100%....the one thing you can tell as a fan is that that’s exactly what they didn’t do.
Freddie need to work out which 11 players are prepared to work hard for 90 mins and play them. I love Bellerin but in his post match interview last night he said all the players gave 100%....the one thing you can tell as a fan is that that’s exactly what they didn’t do.
Cheib said:
New players won’t help....lets say you get two or three players from a Top 4 side.....I don’t care who it is the way the rest of the team if playing they will just get brought down to the same level. AS Lee Dixon said post match last night they’ve just got to spend days and say on the training pitch learning how to defend as a team....that starts with midfield. As for upfront I’d start by putting Lacazette on the bench, play Aubameyang in the middle and if Pepe and Ozil aren’t prepared to work hard off the ball they can sit on the bench too.
Freddie need to work out which 11 players are prepared to work hard for 90 mins and play them. I love Bellerin but in his post match interview last night he said all the players gave 100%....the one thing you can tell as a fan is that that’s exactly what they didn’t do.
I'm sorry but most of our players are bang average at best. You might be able to squeeze an extra couple of % improvement out of them but that's all.Freddie need to work out which 11 players are prepared to work hard for 90 mins and play them. I love Bellerin but in his post match interview last night he said all the players gave 100%....the one thing you can tell as a fan is that that’s exactly what they didn’t do.
As for Ozil when will people face up to it that he's no wonder player and if he was Real Madrid wouldn't have sold him to us.
Buying decent defenders is no easy task and even Manchester United are still finding it difficult and they have more buying power than us.
Grim times
I blame Freddie to a large extent. He’s a facking moron clearly.
Yes he has the mess dick left (!) but he’s been part of it all season regardless of how much influence he had or not.
He must seem in training how st Xhaka, Kolasinic and the biggest malign influence Ozil have been, yet he picks them in both his teams. That’s indefensible imo.
We have got worse since uncle stepped away and we all used to moan about him. I have never thought for one minute Freddie is manager material, despite being one of my favourite players, yet here we are.
Viera fills me with no optimism. He wasn’t a shouter he was a quiet captain.
The only hope we have is the Kroenke out campaign begins in earnest but I doubt it will and I doubt it would have much impact as he never sells his franchises!
The only way we can rescue this season imo is if we get a experienced, organised manager in or a huge hitter, for me that’s Benitez, Ancellotti or Allegri.
We all k ow it will be someone cheap though...nice but useless Curbishly Mark 2 Eddie Howe or that Marcelino who no ones heard of, no one wants, has a bang average career in Spain but would be cheap and pliable.
Yet despite the gloating we are only a point behind the scum!
Yes he has the mess dick left (!) but he’s been part of it all season regardless of how much influence he had or not.
He must seem in training how s
t Xhaka, Kolasinic and the biggest malign influence Ozil have been, yet he picks them in both his teams. That’s indefensible imo. We have got worse since uncle stepped away and we all used to moan about him. I have never thought for one minute Freddie is manager material, despite being one of my favourite players, yet here we are.
Viera fills me with no optimism. He wasn’t a shouter he was a quiet captain.
The only hope we have is the Kroenke out campaign begins in earnest but I doubt it will and I doubt it would have much impact as he never sells his franchises!
The only way we can rescue this season imo is if we get a experienced, organised manager in or a huge hitter, for me that’s Benitez, Ancellotti or Allegri.
We all k ow it will be someone cheap though...nice but useless Curbishly Mark 2 Eddie Howe or that Marcelino who no ones heard of, no one wants, has a bang average career in Spain but would be cheap and pliable.
Yet despite the gloating we are only a point behind the scum!
Raygun said:
Cheib said:
New players won’t help....lets say you get two or three players from a Top 4 side.....I don’t care who it is the way the rest of the team if playing they will just get brought down to the same level. AS Lee Dixon said post match last night they’ve just got to spend days and say on the training pitch learning how to defend as a team....that starts with midfield. As for upfront I’d start by putting Lacazette on the bench, play Aubameyang in the middle and if Pepe and Ozil aren’t prepared to work hard off the ball they can sit on the bench too.
Freddie need to work out which 11 players are prepared to work hard for 90 mins and play them. I love Bellerin but in his post match interview last night he said all the players gave 100%....the one thing you can tell as a fan is that that’s exactly what they didn’t do.
I'm sorry but most of our players are bang average at best. You might be able to squeeze an extra couple of % improvement out of them but that's all.Freddie need to work out which 11 players are prepared to work hard for 90 mins and play them. I love Bellerin but in his post match interview last night he said all the players gave 100%....the one thing you can tell as a fan is that that’s exactly what they didn’t do.
As for Ozil when will people face up to it that he's no wonder player and if he was Real Madrid wouldn't have sold him to us.
Buying decent defenders is no easy task and even Manchester United are still finding it difficult and they have more buying power than us.
Grim times
Players may be bang average...but they aren’t even playing to that level at the moment. Freddie unfortunately looks totally out of his depth.
New manager/coach needs to be a pragmatic choice becuase things are bloody desperate. I’d love to see Vieira or Arteta but I doubt the latter would take it in the current circumstances and I think what we need right now is experience and lots of it.
I'd love Benitez. Sure, he doesn't play particularly exciting football, but he can get a team functioning and has oodles of experience. Looks like the tax laws in China would make it very very expensive though.
As a couple of people have mentioned, I'm sure that it'll be a rushed appointment and we'll end up with some ineffective and out of their depth.
Sad times. We might only be a point behind dem man next door right now, but come the end of December that'll be a lot more.
Very little light at the end of the tunnel :/
As a couple of people have mentioned, I'm sure that it'll be a rushed appointment and we'll end up with some ineffective and out of their depth.
Sad times. We might only be a point behind dem man next door right now, but come the end of December that'll be a lot more.
Very little light at the end of the tunnel :/
Cheib said:
Raygun said:
Cheib said:
New players won’t help....lets say you get two or three players from a Top 4 side.....I don’t care who it is the way the rest of the team if playing they will just get brought down to the same level. AS Lee Dixon said post match last night they’ve just got to spend days and say on the training pitch learning how to defend as a team....that starts with midfield. As for upfront I’d start by putting Lacazette on the bench, play Aubameyang in the middle and if Pepe and Ozil aren’t prepared to work hard off the ball they can sit on the bench too.
Freddie need to work out which 11 players are prepared to work hard for 90 mins and play them. I love Bellerin but in his post match interview last night he said all the players gave 100%....the one thing you can tell as a fan is that that’s exactly what they didn’t do.
I'm sorry but most of our players are bang average at best. You might be able to squeeze an extra couple of % improvement out of them but that's all.Freddie need to work out which 11 players are prepared to work hard for 90 mins and play them. I love Bellerin but in his post match interview last night he said all the players gave 100%....the one thing you can tell as a fan is that that’s exactly what they didn’t do.
As for Ozil when will people face up to it that he's no wonder player and if he was Real Madrid wouldn't have sold him to us.
Buying decent defenders is no easy task and even Manchester United are still finding it difficult and they have more buying power than us.
Grim times
Players may be bang average...but they aren’t even playing to that level at the moment. Freddie unfortunately looks totally out of his depth.
New manager/coach needs to be a pragmatic choice becuase things are bloody desperate. I’d love to see Vieira or Arteta but I doubt the latter would take it in the current circumstances and I think what we need right now is experience and lots of it.
I've always had a lot of time for Benitez. He doesn't seem popular, but he's done a great job wherever he's been. He would have the experience to steady the ship, and probably start to grind out some results, I would not be disappointed to see him take the helm, and he would have my full support.
ETA: Apparently it would cost £20m to pry him away from his Chinese outfit, so that'll be a no then.
ETA: Apparently it would cost £20m to pry him away from his Chinese outfit, so that'll be a no then.
Well I guess Amazon got what they wanted from their 8.15ko on a Thursday night.
Same old st, weak midfield (not sure why Ozil was ranting other than he was having to jog with mild non-intent at the opposition), a defense that fall asleep and only looked like Laca gave a st up front. Pepe with a bit of er pep about him was good to see, er thats about only positive I can think of. Brighton should have scored 5 or 6.
The playing out from the back still keeps putting us under unnecessary pressure, and when we attack and get hit by a counter they all panic and run to edge of the box (at least there was some attempt to get back a couple of times) and then keeping backing off until they shoot - we just don't seem to be able to apply any pressure to a top team like Brighton who were putting up triangles to play piggy in the middle.
At least West Ham aren't in any sort of good form before we go there....oh right...and next home match again Citeh, at least they haven't got any clinical finishers or known for creating chances...what's our biggest defeat in the league?
ETA oh and Kroenke only wants us for London real-estate so he couldn't give a toss what our league status is.
Oh and thanks BBC for the Monday night fixture v Leeds that'll be another ghost town show
Same old s
t, weak midfield (not sure why Ozil was ranting other than he was having to jog with mild non-intent at the opposition), a defense that fall asleep and only looked like Laca gave a st up front. Pepe with a bit of er pep about him was good to see, er thats about only positive I can think of. Brighton should have scored 5 or 6.The playing out from the back still keeps putting us under unnecessary pressure, and when we attack and get hit by a counter they all panic and run to edge of the box (at least there was some attempt to get back a couple of times) and then keeping backing off until they shoot - we just don't seem to be able to apply any pressure to a top team like Brighton who were putting up triangles to play piggy in the middle.
At least West Ham aren't in any sort of good form before we go there....oh right...and next home match again Citeh, at least they haven't got any clinical finishers or known for creating chances...what's our biggest defeat in the league?
ETA oh and Kroenke only wants us for London real-estate so he couldn't give a toss what our league status is.
Oh and thanks BBC for the Monday night fixture v Leeds that'll be another ghost town show
Edited by Wonderman on Friday 6th December 11:46
Ascayman said:
You have to go all out for him he's the only top manager i can think of that would take it, anyone half decent with options will be steering well clear imo.
Yes, I think Rafa would take it, but I can't see Kronke splashing the £20m cash to buy out his Chinese contract.......And yes, I also agree that none of the top flight candidates will be touching us with a barge pole.
Glassman said:
Aubameyang did a Jason Puncheon?
I’m pretty sure whatever it was, it was preferable to do it in the bogs rather than on the pitch in front of kids.And yes after another pathetic display of second rate defending I’m thinking Rafa might not be such a bad idea, I still say our problem is more midfield related not giving any cover, purely than just clueless defending.
Edited by Cupramax on Friday 6th December 13:20
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