The Official West Ham United Thread. Vol 2
Discussion
Einion Yrth said:
I don't know what you chaps need, but I can tell you what you don't need, and that's David Moyes.
Nice uninformed opinion there. He's done well since he has come in. Everyone in football expects top drawer performances and victories for their team week-in, week-out and that can never happen. We'll stay up this season and see what happens next. I'd like Moyes to stay in charge, he's not the negative tactician I discredited him as before his arrival.BrabusMog said:
Einion Yrth said:
I don't know what you chaps need, but I can tell you what you don't need, and that's David Moyes.
Nice uninformed opinion there. He's done well since he has come in. Everyone in football expects top drawer performances and victories for their team week-in, week-out and that can never happen. We'll stay up this season and see what happens next. I'd like Moyes to stay in charge, he's not the negative tactician I discredited him as before his arrival.BrabusMog said:
Einion Yrth said:
I don't know what you chaps need, but I can tell you what you don't need, and that's David Moyes.
Nice uninformed opinion there. He's done well since he has come in. Everyone in football expects top drawer performances and victories for their team week-in, week-out and that can never happen. We'll stay up this season and see what happens next. I'd like Moyes to stay in charge, he's not the negative tactician I discredited him as before his arrival.Moyes is definitely a step up from Bilic, there have been enough player interviews outlining what a shoddy ship Bilic ran. Its all about relativities, you know what Guardiola is not going to join next year so we don't have the pick of the managers, Koeman turned us down, etc etc. He is getting more out of the players than Bilic but we were woeful in the Jan transfer market as predicted with the Daves wanting to do the Premier League on a shoestring.
I guess City shipped goals against Liverpool, so why wouldn't we. Anyway...
Swansea away is a huge game now, then Burnley (terrible form right now) and Southampton - a run of three huge games that we should be targeting 7 points from. Then hope to scrape enough from the Stoke, Leicester and Everton games. I cannot see us getting points against Arsenal, Chelsea and City.
Swansea away is a huge game now, then Burnley (terrible form right now) and Southampton - a run of three huge games that we should be targeting 7 points from. Then hope to scrape enough from the Stoke, Leicester and Everton games. I cannot see us getting points against Arsenal, Chelsea and City.
10th March March has been officially called off by RWHFAG admin and a news story on WHUFC.com stating the march is off.
Other groups such as KUMB, Crossed Hammers etc are saying they haven't called it off.
it appears the march will go ahead with Crossed Hammers now taking the lead on it.
Other groups such as KUMB, Crossed Hammers etc are saying they haven't called it off.
it appears the march will go ahead with Crossed Hammers now taking the lead on it.
coldel said:
I guess if all the appropriate notification is still in place they can still march. I read about some of the promises made by Brady in the summaries of the letter and it was a bit superficial and half hearted - surprised they have caved in on that.
Perhaps rather than caving in, the more intelligent among them have realised that it's damaging to the team we all support. There was a great article ridiculing the name, why are they any more "real" than the other supporters who follow the Hammers. I have no time for them... RichB said:
coldel said:
I guess if all the appropriate notification is still in place they can still march. I read about some of the promises made by Brady in the summaries of the letter and it was a bit superficial and half hearted - surprised they have caved in on that.
Perhaps rather than caving in, the more intelligent among them have realised that it's damaging to the team we all support. There was a great article ridiculing the name, why are they any more "real" than the other supporters who follow the Hammers. I have no time for them... Well the issue was much more wide ranging than just being allowed to put up a few more banners and some paraphernalia outside the stadium. Yet those are the proposals and they have caved in and called it off.
Clearly the stadium isn't fit for purpose. The message from the board was that the move would involve permanent solutions to the seating being too far from the pitch, that investment in players would be increased etc. and none of that has happened (as most people on here have said) - those are more substantial issues that are yet to be resolved.
Would a march have damaged the team? Who knows, there are players echoing the issues in interviews.
Personally I was not bothered about the march in reality, but it does seem like a substantial cave in from a group that seemed to have principles for their formation not addressed by the club.
Clearly the stadium isn't fit for purpose. The message from the board was that the move would involve permanent solutions to the seating being too far from the pitch, that investment in players would be increased etc. and none of that has happened (as most people on here have said) - those are more substantial issues that are yet to be resolved.
Would a march have damaged the team? Who knows, there are players echoing the issues in interviews.
Personally I was not bothered about the march in reality, but it does seem like a substantial cave in from a group that seemed to have principles for their formation not addressed by the club.
coldel said:
Clearly the stadium isn't fit for purpose.
Haven't the owners rather 'burnt their bridges' on that particular issue now?You can't return to UP, the current stadium must retain the athletics option and building a new stadium, even if the process were started now, would be at least 10 years off - and thats assuming the owners wanted it and could get finance and god knows where would be available to accommodate a new stadium.
LoonyTunes said:
Haven't the owners rather 'burnt their bridges' on that particular issue now?
You can't return to UP, the current stadium must retain the athletics option and building a new stadium, even if the process were started now, would be at least 10 years off - and thats assuming the owners wanted it and could get finance and god knows where would be available to accommodate a new stadium.
There were promises made about making the stadium much more football orientated ie with proper retractable seating etc. which havent been followed through. The interior was plain and dull and carries no experience. The board promised it would by moving there address this, until a march was threatened nothing really was done. You can't return to UP, the current stadium must retain the athletics option and building a new stadium, even if the process were started now, would be at least 10 years off - and thats assuming the owners wanted it and could get finance and god knows where would be available to accommodate a new stadium.
Understand that now we are there, we are stuck with it, but the board is just behaving in a reactionary manner like some stuttering business that is going under (cite Maplin or the like) instead of having had loads of time to collect feedback from the fans and implement it as part of the deal of moving to the stadium. The Daves do strike me as the very old fashioned type of business people who are just simply not agile and slow to move no issues.
coldel said:
...Would a march have damaged the team? Who knows, there are players echoing the issues in interviews..
I know you have strong opinions but I will stick my neck out here and say categorically that boneheads holding up placards suggesting the change of stadium was more damaging than the 30,000 people killed in the blitz is damaging. The negativity that surrounds such nonsense blatantly rubs off onto the pitch. No one will convince me that it is better than supporting and fervently cheering on the team. I was at the 2004 play off semi final and the atmosphere created carried the team through that game. No, the boneheads and morons can f
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