The Official West Ham United Thread. Vol 2

The Official West Ham United Thread. Vol 2

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TwigtheWonderkid

27,598 posts

87 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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sjc said:
It didn't have to look that bad to be a yellow,let alone the fact it was on other days quite possibly a straight red being halfway up his shin. If you look how late it was,(and I mean in real time)the only possible conclusion you could draw was that Taylor was aware it would mean a second yellow.... Same went for Kante.
I don't agree. When I was watching it I didn't even think he'd touched the goalie. I thought the goalie had made a meal of it. Replays obviously showed otherwise.

People are very quick to say the ref's a cheat, he bottled it, etc. I sometimes make mistakes at work. I'm not a cheat or a bottler. Sometimes I just make the wrong decision.

sjc

10,486 posts

207 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
sjc said:
It didn't have to look that bad to be a yellow,let alone the fact it was on other days quite possibly a straight red being halfway up his shin. If you look how late it was,(and I mean in real time)the only possible conclusion you could draw was that Taylor was aware it would mean a second yellow.... Same went for Kante.
I don't agree. When I was watching it I didn't even think he'd touched the goalie. I thought the goalie had made a meal of it. Replays obviously showed otherwise.

People are very quick to say the ref's a cheat, he bottled it, etc. I sometimes make mistakes at work. I'm not a cheat or a bottler. Sometimes I just make the wrong decision.
No-one said he was a cheat.
We will agree to disagree.
I'd bet my house that if Costa and Kante didn't already have yellows, they would have got one for those challenges.So to make the same mistake twice, it's either incompetence or a choice.Either way, it's done now.

RichB

40,967 posts

221 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
RichB said:
Kante got a soft 1st card but Costa yes, new rules 1st yellow had to have it and bad foul on Adrian was a 2nd yellow. Simple. Ref bottled it! mad
How do you know he bottled it? Maybe at a glance it didn't look that bad. Having seen 9 replays from 9 different angles, of course it was a yellow...at least. But in real time when I was watching, I thought it was something and nothing.

You don't know he bottled it, maybe he just got it wrong.
I don't "know" however as you are well aware it's footballing parlance for not making a hard decision which, in my opinion is exactly what he avoided. Now I'm not saying we deserved anything from the game, but I'm sorry TTWK I reckon he bottled it. biglaugh

TwigtheWonderkid

27,598 posts

87 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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I think to get to be a PL ref, you need to have gone thru so many levels, and reffed so many matches, that I don't think you get up to that level by bottling decisions.

The time to bottle it is on Hackney marshes, when showing a red is likely to get your face smashed in!

bad company

9,466 posts

203 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
How do you know he bottled it? Maybe at a glance it didn't look that bad. Having seen 9 replays from 9 different angles, of course it was a yellow...at least. But in real time when I was watching, I thought it was something and nothing.

You don't know he bottled it, maybe he just got it wrong.
If somebody showed you a black piece of wood you would argue vociferously that it was white.
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TwigtheWonderkid

27,598 posts

87 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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bad company said:
If somebody showed you a black piece of wood you would argue vociferously that it was white.
Find a dictionary. Look up 2 words. Opinion and fact.

RichB

40,967 posts

221 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
bad company said:
If somebody showed you a black piece of wood you would argue vociferously that it was white.
Find a dictionary. Look up 2 words. Opinion and fact.
And yours is an opinion that just about every pundit and referee today disagrees with saying he should have been off, still have it your way Wonderkid rolleyes

TwigtheWonderkid

27,598 posts

87 months

Wednesday 17th August 2016
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RichB said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
bad company said:
If somebody showed you a black piece of wood you would argue vociferously that it was white.
Find a dictionary. Look up 2 words. Opinion and fact.
And yours is an opinion that just about every pundit and referee today disagrees with saying he should have been off, still have it your way Wonderkid rolleyes
But I agree with them, that he should have been sent off! confused

Are you hard of reading?

sjc

10,486 posts

207 months

Wednesday 17th August 2016
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Just to make you aware,you can disagree with something on the internet and and just move on with your life.

bad company

9,466 posts

203 months

Wednesday 17th August 2016
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So moving on I going to my first game at the OS on Sunday v Bournemouth , can't wait. I just hope we play better than we did Monday and against Bournemouth last season.

Deanno1dad

581 posts

161 months

Wednesday 17th August 2016
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Taking my lad to his first match at the OS next thursday for the Europa League tie...he's chuffed to bits

RichB

40,967 posts

221 months

Wednesday 17th August 2016
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Are you hard of reading?
Normally the football threads on Pistonheads are lighthearted and one of the few places without rudeness and insults - unlife GG, F1 etc. etc.. Supporters of different teams that visit other teams' threads usually even join in the banter. Then there's you... I assume you're special.

ascayman

10,398 posts

153 months

Wednesday 17th August 2016
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RichB said:
ormally the football threads on Pistonheads are lighthearted and one of the few places without rudeness and insults - unlife GG, F1 etc. etc.. Supporters of different teams that visit other teams' threads usually even join in the banter. Then there's you... I assume you're special.
Ignore, Chelsea fan that doesn't even support his own team half the time, could start an argument in an empty phone box.

Interested to see how infrastructure round the stadium holds up on Sunday given the shopping centre

pincher

5,371 posts

154 months

Wednesday 17th August 2016
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Was ok for the Juve match which will be a similar crowd, I should think.

sjc

10,486 posts

207 months

Wednesday 17th August 2016
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ascayman said:
RichB said:
ormally the football threads on Pistonheads are lighthearted and one of the few places without rudeness and insults - unlife GG, F1 etc. etc.. Supporters of different teams that visit other teams' threads usually even join in the banter. Then there's you... I assume you're special.
Ignore, Chelsea fan that doesn't even support his own team half the time, could start an argument in an empty phone box.
But it would be the telephone box that was wrong.

bad company

9,466 posts

203 months

Wednesday 17th August 2016
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sjc said:
But it would be the telephone box that was wrong.
Correct. laugh

He's not just argumentative on football threads either.

sjc

10,486 posts

207 months

Wednesday 17th August 2016
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Deanno1dad said:
Taking my lad to his first match at the OS next thursday for the Europa League tie...he's chuffed to bits
I'm sure he'll love it.
still can't get my head round the fact that we actually play there!

bad company

9,466 posts

203 months

Wednesday 17th August 2016
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sjc said:
I'm sure he'll love it.
still can't get my head round the fact that we actually play there!
I can't get my head around the fact that I will never again watch a football match at Upton Park. cry

sjc

10,486 posts

207 months

Wednesday 17th August 2016
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bad company said:
sjc said:
I'm sure he'll love it.
still can't get my head round the fact that we actually play there!
I can't get my head around the fact that I will never again watch a football match at Upton Park. cry
That' true as well.
But it's nice to know I can now go to a match in flip flops without risk of swapping them for flippers when I want a waz !

RichB

40,967 posts

221 months

Wednesday 17th August 2016
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pincher said:
Was ok for the Juve match which will be a similar crowd, I should think.
Interesting, I wonder if they made changes after the NK Domzal game?

Getting back to the tube station was a nightmare that thursday.