The Official Manchester United Thread [Vol 6]

[likesachange]

Gavia said:

Lots of newspaper talk about Martial wanting to leave. Disappointed if that's true, as we need youth. Cue lots of gloating from Spuds and Scousers

Yeah that would be hugely disappointing if its true. He will become a fantastic player.

Was hoping for some more exciting signings by now tbh but maybe Rodriguez and Morata will still be arriving

[London424]

Gavia said:

Lots of newspaper talk about Martial wanting to leave. Disappointed if that's true, as we need youth. Cue lots of gloating from Spuds and Scousers

It shouldn't be much of a surprise though should it? Jose has never been one to play young players unless forced too (injury/suspension etc).

[GTO-3R]

He's just tweeted to say the rumours are false

[ORD]

Martial remains a "maybe" player for me. Still far too lazy and far too patchy in his form.

[Alpinestars]

ORD said:

Martial remains a "maybe" player for me. Still far too lazy and far too patchy in his form.

Agreed. Needs a change in attitude. Has the ability to be really good.

[Ascayman]

Hopefully the signing of Matic will mean that the pursuit of dier has been unsuccessful. £40m for him looks desperate though.

[chrisb92]

Ascayman said:

Hopefully the signing of Matic will mean that the pursuit of dier has been unsuccessful. £40m for him looks desperate though.

Thank fk. Dier is bang average

[ORD]

He is average. Not sure Matic is hugely better.

[m3sye]

Ascayman said:

Hopefully the signing of Matic will mean that the pursuit of dier has been unsuccessful. £40m for him looks desperate though.

City to announce Alves in next couple of days too - so you maybe keeping your team together

[uk66fastback]

m3sye said:

City to announce Alves in next couple of days too - so you maybe keeping your team together

Don't think they were that bothered. Trippier is at least as good as Walker - and better defensively in my book - and they could have used the money to buy Martial

[Ascayman]

m3sye said:

Ascayman said:

Hopefully the signing of Matic will mean that the pursuit of dier has been unsuccessful. £40m for him looks desperate though.

City to announce Alves in next couple of days too - so you maybe keeping your team together

What would papers talk about if that were true

[so called]

Challo said:

selym said:

Black can man said:

No chance, he has at least another year @ £300k a week & Coleen is far too smart .

Agreed, what a ridiculous statement. He's only looking fat on holiday; if that is grounds for bankruptcy, 3/4 of pistonheads wouldn't have a pot to piss in.

I agree. Not exactly piling on the pounds.

ORD has got some emotional problems where Rooney is concerned. Strange.
A so called United fan constantly slagging off one of our players starts to make me question his true loyalties.
Change the record or find another team.

He's not fat and is allowed a beer or two on holiday ffs.

[m3sye]

so called said:

ORD has got some emotional problems where Rooney is concerned. Strange.
A so called United fan constantly slagging off one of our players starts to make me question his true loyalties.
Change the record or find another team.

He's not fat and is allowed a beer or two on holiday ffs.

The thing is having a little bit more fat than say Valencia does not mean Valencia has fitter than him

I have mates who have proper beer bellies yet run the 3 peaks in times I could only dream of - they are super fit yet to the eye you would say they wouldn't be able to run around the corner never mind moutains for 27 miles or so...

[Challo]

m3sye said:

so called said:

ORD has got some emotional problems where Rooney is concerned. Strange.
A so called United fan constantly slagging off one of our players starts to make me question his true loyalties.
Change the record or find another team.

He's not fat and is allowed a beer or two on holiday ffs.

The thing is having a little bit more fat than say Valencia does not mean Valencia has fitter than him

I have mates who have proper beer bellies yet run the 3 peaks in times I could only dream of - they are super fit yet to the eye you would say they wouldn't be able to run around the corner never mind moutains for 27 miles or so...

I think he does struggle with genetics and that means he has struggled with weight at times. Also there is a perception he is fat and its no where near correct.

Rooney burst onto the scene at 16, has become England & United's leading goal scorer but his form has fallen off a cliff. Not the player he was, but rather than adjust his game he is trying to still be that same player and its a shame.

[ORD]

m3sye said:

so called said:

ORD has got some emotional problems where Rooney is concerned. Strange.
A so called United fan constantly slagging off one of our players starts to make me question his true loyalties.
Change the record or find another team.

He's not fat and is allowed a beer or two on holiday ffs.

The thing is having a little bit more fat than say Valencia does not mean Valencia has fitter than him

I have mates who have proper beer bellies yet run the 3 peaks in times I could only dream of - they are super fit yet to the eye you would say they wouldn't be able to run around the corner never mind moutains for 27 miles or so...

Unfit person A who is fat is fitter than very unfit person B. Irrelevant to a discussion about elite fitness levels. We are all grossly unfit compared to a PL footballer. To even be a PL footballer, you need to be a genetic freak in terms of CV fitness potential.

We are talking here about elite athletes whose job involves a lot of sprinting. A body fat percentage like Rooney's is a sign that something has gone very wrong. In his case, it is beers and staying up gambling.

Genetics schmenetics. If he stayed sober and did his training properly and ate properly, he would be ripped.

[Gavia]

ORD said:

Unfit person A who is fat is fitter than very unfit person B. Irrelevant to a discussion about elite fitness levels. We are all grossly unfit compared to a PL footballer. To even be a PL footballer, you need to be a genetic freak in terms of CV fitness potential.

We are talking here about elite athletes whose job involves a lot of sprinting. A body fat percentage like Rooney's is a sign that something has gone very wrong. In his case, it is beers and staying up gambling.

Genetics schmenetics. If he stayed sober and did his training properly and ate properly, he would be ripped.

No he wouldn't. Way back when Rooney first signed for United the fitness coach had a body fat target for all players. One of his first discussions with SAF was that there was no way he could get Rooney down to that level. Rooney has won the footballing ability lottery, not the male model lottery. The original Ronaldo and Maradona spring to mind of two ridiculously talented p,ayers, who struggled with their weight. Rooney will explode when he quits football a la Steve Bruce / Micky Quinn, so keeping it in check now is a major feat.

None of the above is to defend his form or position in the team now though. It's time to move on, we've lost great players at the ends of their careers before and always moved forwards from it.

[Black can man]

GTO-3R said:

Matic would do a great job for us just sat behind Pogba and Herrera. He's a player like Carrick that does a lot which goes un noticed, I'd prefer him to Fabinho tbh

You can afford someone far better than him surely.

[ORD]

Black can man said:

You can afford someone far better than him surely.

Nobody springs immediately to mind, but I do tend to agree. It just seems a very obvious and expensive choice when we have a huge and vastly expensive scouting network.

[Black can man]

ORD said:

Black can man said:

You can afford someone far better than him surely.

Nobody springs immediately to mind, but I do tend to agree. It just seems a very obvious and expensive choice when we have a huge and vastly expensive scouting network.

I Can understand Jose wanting to free up Pogba a little but i just don't think he's good enough or young enough to warrant 40 odd Million.

[jammy-git]

Black can man said:

I Can understand Jose wanting to free up Pogba a little but i just don't think he's good enough or young enough to warrant 40 odd Million.

If you guys thought Walker was worth £60m+ then I think Matic, a title winner, is worth £40m.