The Official Manchester United Thread [Vol 6]

The Official Manchester United Thread [Vol 6]

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selym

9,544 posts

171 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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ORD said:
jammy-git said:
Well we know how good you are with league predictions! biggrin
Touche.

But my guess is that you're starting to see the quality in Utd that ABUs were able to deny last year.
You've played nobody yet.

jammy-git

29,778 posts

212 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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GTO-3R said:
End of his career? He's in his prime ffs and has at least 4 years at this level.
End of career maybe a bad choice of words. Last major transfer/contract.

And I very much doubt he'll still be putting in the same level of performances at 33. You've probably got 2 good years left from him before he becomes too slow to be considered automatic XI - he'll be the player you bring on at 70 minutes to shore up a lead.

ORD

18,120 posts

127 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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selym said:
ORD said:
jammy-git said:
Well we know how good you are with league predictions! biggrin
Touche.

But my guess is that you're starting to see the quality in Utd that ABUs were able to deny last year.
You've played nobody yet.

I have pointed this out to dampen enthusiasm. But, to be fair, the other top sides have looked pretty bad even against weak teams.

ORD

18,120 posts

127 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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jammy-git said:
GTO-3R said:
End of his career? He's in his prime ffs and has at least 4 years at this level.
End of career maybe a bad choice of words. Last major transfer/contract.

And I very much doubt he'll still be putting in the same level of performances at 33. You've probably got 2 good years left from him before he becomes too slow to be considered automatic XI - he'll be the player you bring on at 70 minutes to shore up a lead.
All depends, doesnt it?

Players tend to trail off at some time between 31 and 35, but its guesswork to say when that time will be for any particular player (although players with a lot of technical ability and strength tend to last a bit longer compared to players that rely on speed and/or power). I suppose Utd are betting on the possibility that Matic will not start to struggle for 3 years or more. I think that is realistic.

The physical drop off probably has more to do with miles on the clock and wear and tear than it does with chronological age. A player that has taken excellent care of himself might well see no major drop off until well into his 30s (says a 34 year-old who still has not peaked...)

franki68

10,390 posts

221 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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jammy-git said:
GTO-3R said:
End of his career? He's in his prime ffs and has at least 4 years at this level.
End of career maybe a bad choice of words. Last major transfer/contract.

And I very much doubt he'll still be putting in the same level of performances at 33. You've probably got 2 good years left from him before he becomes too slow to be considered automatic XI - he'll be the player you bring on at 70 minutes to shore up a lead.
Pace is not what defines him,he will be decent for another 3-4 years.He will however have no resale value ,so from that perspective 40m is a lot,but if he helps win the title what value would you place on the deal?


Gone a bit AMG

6,710 posts

197 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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jammy-git said:
Delusional.

I think most people's criticism of Matic was that it was a lot of money to spend on someone at the end of their career. Personally I thought it was a lot but understood that there is a premium to pay when buying off a top six rival.
It seemed a lot but then we've had walker and neymar. Seems a bargain now.

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

244 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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selym said:
ORD said:
jammy-git said:
Well we know how good you are with league predictions! biggrin
Touche.

But my guess is that you're starting to see the quality in Utd that ABUs were able to deny last year.
You've played nobody yet.
That's a rather arrogant view.

ORD

18,120 posts

127 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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Gone a bit AMG said:
It seemed a lot but then we've had walker and neymar. Seems a bargain now.
Absolute steal.

If Walker is £50 million, Matic is £100m at least.

Gone a bit AMG

6,710 posts

197 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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ORD said:
Gone a bit AMG said:
It seemed a lot but then we've had walker and neymar. Seems a bargain now.
Absolute steal.

If Walker is £50 million, Matic is £100m at least.
Exactly. Transfers have gone nuts and now makes our early business even more satisfying. And Martial's early season form would have been missed had a winger come in.


selym

9,544 posts

171 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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Alpinestars said:
selym said:
ORD said:
jammy-git said:
Well we know how good you are with league predictions! biggrin
Touche.

But my guess is that you're starting to see the quality in Utd that ABUs were able to deny last year.
You've played nobody yet.
That's a rather arrogant view.
No more than your arrogance when bigging up your chances after two games....against much less competitive clubs.

Helicopter123

8,831 posts

156 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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Gone a bit AMG said:
jammy-git said:
Delusional.

I think most people's criticism of Matic was that it was a lot of money to spend on someone at the end of their career. Personally I thought it was a lot but understood that there is a premium to pay when buying off a top six rival.
It seemed a lot but then we've had walker and neymar. Seems a bargain now.
Biggest bargain of all now is Pogba surely?

Gone a bit AMG

6,710 posts

197 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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Helicopter123 said:
Gone a bit AMG said:
jammy-git said:
Delusional.

I think most people's criticism of Matic was that it was a lot of money to spend on someone at the end of their career. Personally I thought it was a lot but understood that there is a premium to pay when buying off a top six rival.
It seemed a lot but then we've had walker and neymar. Seems a bargain now.
Biggest bargain of all now is Pogba surely?
Looking that way.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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ORD said:
Gone a bit AMG said:
It seemed a lot but then we've had walker and neymar. Seems a bargain now.
Absolute steal.

If Walker is £50 million, Matic is £100m at least.
Sigurddson at £45m as well. Mental.

ORD

18,120 posts

127 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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selym said:
No more than your arrogance when bigging up your chances after two games....against much less competitive clubs.
Success breeds confidence. You wouldn't know.

selym

9,544 posts

171 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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ORD said:
selym said:
No more than your arrogance when bigging up your chances after two games....against much less competitive clubs.
Success breeds confidence. You wouldn't know.
Two games. You were bang average last season and worse the season before and so on. Misplaced confidence?

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

244 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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selym said:
Alpinestars said:
selym said:
ORD said:
jammy-git said:
Well we know how good you are with league predictions! biggrin
Touche.

But my guess is that you're starting to see the quality in Utd that ABUs were able to deny last year.
You've played nobody yet.
That's a rather arrogant view.
No more than your arrogance when bigging up your chances after two games....against much less competitive clubs.
Care to point me in the direction of my posts bigging up our chances?

selym

9,544 posts

171 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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Alpinestars said:
Care to point me in the direction of my posts bigging up our chances?
The royal you! You don't predict, you just deflect attention by asking people to go back through reams of posts or similar.

ORD

18,120 posts

127 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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selym said:
ORD said:
selym said:
No more than your arrogance when bigging up your chances after two games....against much less competitive clubs.
Success breeds confidence. You wouldn't know.
Two games. You were bang average last season and worse the season before and so on. Misplaced confidence?
I meant the trophies. You wouldn't know about trophies.

selym

9,544 posts

171 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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ORD said:
I meant the trophies. You wouldn't know about trophies.
Trophies can be such a loose term.

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

244 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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selym said:
Alpinestars said:
Care to point me in the direction of my posts bigging up our chances?
The royal you! You don't predict, you just deflect attention by asking people to go back through reams of posts or similar.
Oh dear. Do you ever post anything that's right?
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