The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 12]

The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 12]

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eyebeebe

2,962 posts

232 months

Friday 28th April 2017
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type-r said:
I don't think it is in our hands?

Arsenal have to play United, so only one can get maximum points. Don't we have to rely also on City dropping points at some stage?
Our goal difference is better than Arsenal +4 and Man Utd +2 though. They'd have to win everything by a bigger margin than us (not impossible obviously).

If we win all our games, I see us finishing 4th below City, as I think Utd will drop points against the north London clubs. I just don't think we will!

anonymous-user

53 months

Friday 28th April 2017
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type-r said:
I don't think it is in our hands?

Arsenal have to play United, so only one can get maximum points. Don't we have to rely also on City dropping points at some stage?
City and Utd can finish above us, with Arsenal being equal and V close on goal difference. (Presuming all games won)

Not everyone can get max points, but our general form leaves me looking at 6th, perhaps 5th.

jammy-git

29,776 posts

211 months

Friday 28th April 2017
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It's not in our hands at the moment, but I can't see both Utd and Arsenal beating Spurs. And I think Utd and Arsenal and City will drop points in 1-2 games too, just like us.

What we really need is a good, big win to improve our goal difference as I can see one team finishing on the same points as us.

RedTrident

8,290 posts

234 months

Friday 28th April 2017
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My fear is that we've blown it. If we qualify it won't be because we win our remaining games, it will be because the others do even worse.

We have perhaps Lallana coming back which will mean Lucas dropping and a midfield 3 where Can plays deeper. He looked poor playing that role before.

I'd prefer to play Lallana in a front 3 of Coutinho Firmino Lallana rather than have Origi starting a game.

type-r

13,918 posts

212 months

Friday 28th April 2017
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I don't think we've blown it. I still think we'll get top 4... we still have good enough players to do it and Lallana coming back is a bonus.

The Palace game was a real downer but one win can change expectations again.

type-r

13,918 posts

212 months

Friday 28th April 2017
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Lovren not going anywhere soon. He has just a new contract until 2021.

Despite his mistakes, would be a useful backup next season, as third choice, rather than having to rely on the likes of Lucas (who has done as well as could have been expected but he is no defender). We still need to sign a first choice defender to complement Matip.

epom

11,396 posts

160 months

Friday 28th April 2017
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RedTrident said:
I have only worn one Liverpool top. Hitachi....

Nice kit though, will look good with the nivea face cream.
Credit where it's due RT, u never miss out on an opportunity. Some aren't bad either smile

Pothole

34,367 posts

281 months

Friday 28th April 2017
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DSLiverpool said:
Didn't want to go yesterday as feeling rough and I knew we would fk up.
Had to go as no one wanted the seats and there we go - what a piss taking annoying afternoon that just served to frustrate. One step forward 2 steps back.
Klopp bought on everyone and swapped formation so he couldn't ne accused of no plsn b but nothing improved.
We're linked with no one worth having and if we were the spenders would blow us out.
It's been emperors new clothes since December - yesterday we were starkers.
Think yourself lucky you weren't standing in with the away fans. I was. My wife and MiL are Palace fans.

RedTrident

8,290 posts

234 months

Friday 28th April 2017
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type-r said:
Lovren not going anywhere soon. He has just a new contract until 2021.

Despite his mistakes, would be a useful backup next season, as third choice, rather than having to rely on the likes of Lucas (who has done as well as could have been expected but he is no defender). We still need to sign a first choice defender to complement Matip.
As long as that's all he is. Whilst much improved under Klopp he's too rash and weak imo. Much prefer Sakho. How bad was his injury by the way? Enough to not sell him in the summer....

m3sye

26,231 posts

200 months

Saturday 29th April 2017
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Out for 4 weeks..so expect him gone

DSLiverpool

14,670 posts

201 months

Saturday 29th April 2017
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type-r said:
I don't think we've blown it. I still think we'll get top 4... we still have good enough players to do it and Lallana coming back is a bonus.

The Palace game was a real downer but one win can change expectations again.
My fear is the other teams will give us the opportunity but we will be too shyte to take advantage starting at Watford - a season defining must win seasonal climax of a game!

Alex Langheck

835 posts

128 months

Saturday 29th April 2017
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Slightly underwhelmed by the Lovren news; he's best as a back up, as he still has too many brainfarts for a top defender. As for Monday - not at all confident. Troy Deeney is bound to be licking his lips in anticipation of bullying the weak defence.

Pommygranite

14,229 posts

215 months

Saturday 29th April 2017
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If Lovren hadn't had a stinker in the last game no one would be 'meh' I think. We hadn't lost all season with him and Matip together so he obviously adds something.

SydneyBridge

8,500 posts

157 months

Saturday 29th April 2017
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Apparently Lovren is now the 5th best paid defender in the PL

RedTrident

8,290 posts

234 months

Saturday 29th April 2017
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Paying Lovren that much money to be 3rd choice centre back is an interesting decision. My own thoughts are that he's actually average and that his better performances are fewer and what we saw against Palace is what he's like more of the time.

We need a leader at the back. One who's voice I can hear from where I'm sat, who marshalls the defence and is a beast in the air, someone who has the pace and the power to compliment the composure of Matip. Get that defender in and do absolutely nothing else in the window, and we will be a better team than we are now.

anonymous-user

53 months

Saturday 29th April 2017
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The wages are a result of market timing.

We are mid cycle in a round of significant increases in player wages - others will overtake him over the next couple of years.

Either that or Klopp thinks he's fking brilliant.

Black can man

31,816 posts

167 months

Saturday 29th April 2017
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Alex Langheck said:
Slightly underwhelmed by the Lovren news; he's best as a back up, as he still has too many brainfarts for a top defender. As for Monday - not at all confident. Troy Deeney is bound to be licking his lips in anticipation of bullying the weak defence.
Maybe they have just got him on a longer deal to increase his value .

There must be loads of teams queuing up snap him up.

RedTrident

8,290 posts

234 months

Saturday 29th April 2017
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Not at those wages.

If next season we do get a defender in to play alongside Matip and Lovren becomes a squad player. If such a thing happens how long before he starts trying to force a move and we end up subsiding the loan/sale because of his high wages.

In the premier league, of the teams in the top 8, who would consider buying Lovren?

Shamrock_

874 posts

87 months

Sunday 30th April 2017
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RedTrident said:
Not at those wages.

If next season we do get a defender in to play alongside Matip and Lovren becomes a squad player. If such a thing happens how long before he starts trying to force a move and we end up subsiding the loan/sale because of his high wages.

In the premier league, of the teams in the top 8, who would consider buying Lovren?
There's only the cheque book clubs that could afford him.

RedTrident

8,290 posts

234 months

Sunday 30th April 2017
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Maybe Newcastle buy him... 30 million and give him a pay rise. Could be the table leg that Rafa always wanted. Or was it a lampshade?
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