Michelin Power RS

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AdamLoewy

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176 posts

193 months

Monday 20th March 2017
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Anyone running these yet? - http://www.motorcyclenews.com/product-reviews/tyre...

Launch reviews seem to be positive but always good to hear from real world usage.

Mr OCD

6,388 posts

210 months

Monday 20th March 2017
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AdamLoewy said:
Anyone running these yet? - http://www.motorcyclenews.com/product-reviews/tyre...

Launch reviews seem to be positive but always good to hear from real world usage.
Yep... done about 1000 miles on them.

Too early to say though really as not pushed them hard due to weather conditions.

Birky_41

4,276 posts

183 months

Monday 20th March 2017
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I'll be subscribing to this one. Not run Michelin before other than wets on a track bike which are excellent

Currently running M7RR after lots of recommendations. No questioning cold/wet grip. Best I've used, but I have on a couple occasions wanted a bit more on the rear which has stepped out

These say slightly longer warm up but better dry grip and same wet grip...so time will tell

Mr OCD

6,388 posts

210 months

Monday 20th March 2017
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Birky_41 said:
I'll be subscribing to this one. Not run Michelin before other than wets on a track bike which are excellent

Currently running M7RR after lots of recommendations. No questioning cold/wet grip. Best I've used, but I have on a couple occasions wanted a bit more on the rear which has stepped out

These say slightly longer warm up but better dry grip and same wet grip...so time will tell
I've gone from the M7RR's to Pirelli Diablo Rosso 3's to the RS's in the space of 18 months...

The M7's were very good on the blade but slowed the steering a touch, didn't give me good mileage and were the only tyre that let go on me a couple of times including a nasty moment at Donington last year. TBF to the tyres the previous two sets were spot on... so it may have been suspension issues or stty surface...

Regardless it affected my confidence a little so I thought would try the Pirelli DR3's which were absolutely brilliant on the blade but always liking to try new st for the sake of it I thought I'd give the RS's a go... the cheap £49 track day deal made it a no brainer! biggrin

Initial impressions are pretty good but very quick steering on the blade and do take a little longer to warm up than the Pirelli's I had before (I've had the back move a little when cold) ... no issues at all in the wet either despite very little tread grooves!

IMHO all of them are better than we are ... but at the moment my favourite is the Pirelli DR3's. They suit the blade and my riding.

Birky_41

4,276 posts

183 months

Monday 20th March 2017
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Mr OCD said:
I've gone from the M7RR's to Pirelli Diablo Rosso 3's to the RS's in the space of 18 months...

The M7's were very good on the blade but slowed the steering a touch, didn't give me good mileage and were the only tyre that let go on me a couple of times including a nasty moment at Donington last year. TBF to the tyres the previous two sets were spot on... so it may have been suspension issues or stty surface...

Regardless it affected my confidence a little so I thought would try the Pirelli DR3's which were absolutely brilliant on the blade but always liking to try new st for the sake of it I thought I'd give the RS's a go... the cheap £49 track day deal made it a no brainer! biggrin

Initial impressions are pretty good but very quick steering on the blade and do take a little longer to warm up than the Pirelli's I had before (I've had the back move a little when cold) ... no issues at all in the wet either despite very little tread grooves!

IMHO all of them are better than we are ... but at the moment my favourite is the Pirelli DR3's. They suit the blade and my riding.
Good bit of info there. Someone else mentioned DR3's better in dry M7RR's better in wet but both very similar and excellent tyres. I ran Rosso Corsa last year at IOM and had no slides or grip issues at all but it was dry pretty much the whole week

AdamLoewy

Original Poster:

176 posts

193 months

Monday 20th March 2017
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Mr OCD said:
I've gone from the M7RR's to Pirelli Diablo Rosso 3's to the RS's in the space of 18 months...

The M7's were very good on the blade but slowed the steering a touch, didn't give me good mileage and were the only tyre that let go on me a couple of times including a nasty moment at Donington last year. TBF to the tyres the previous two sets were spot on... so it may have been suspension issues or stty surface...

Regardless it affected my confidence a little so I thought would try the Pirelli DR3's which were absolutely brilliant on the blade but always liking to try new st for the sake of it I thought I'd give the RS's a go... the cheap £49 track day deal made it a no brainer! biggrin

Initial impressions are pretty good but very quick steering on the blade and do take a little longer to warm up than the Pirelli's I had before (I've had the back move a little when cold) ... no issues at all in the wet either despite very little tread grooves!

IMHO all of them are better than we are ... but at the moment my favourite is the Pirelli DR3's. They suit the blade and my riding.
That's a good comparison, I've had DRC's, Supercorsa's & Racetec RR's on the 1198. The Racetec's (K3) have been the best so far (good mileage, lovely when cranked over) but tempted by a bit more longevity and larger operating window.
I had Power Pure's on my old S1K, which I liked and then Power 3's which felt horrible, no confidence once cranked over. Don't want to have a few thousand miles of that again!


spareparts

6,777 posts

226 months

Monday 20th March 2017
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Birky_41 said:
Good bit of info there. Someone else mentioned DR3's better in dry M7RR's better in wet but both very similar and excellent tyres. I ran Rosso Corsa last year at IOM and had no slides or grip issues at all but it was dry pretty much the whole week
I would say it's the other way around: M7RRs better in dry compared to DR3s. DRC >= M7RR > DR3.

Also be keen to see how the new Michelin Power RS is... I've never been a fan of Michelin tyres because of the very pointy tyre carcass which means overly quick steering, not progressive on turn in, and numb when laid over. So will be keen to know if the new PowerRS is shaped any different.

Mr OCD

6,388 posts

210 months

Monday 20th March 2017
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spareparts said:
I've never been a fan of Michelin tyres because of the very pointy tyre carcass which means overly quick steering, .
Agree on the overly quick steering... to the point I've made suspension changes to calm it down a bit.

The front on the RS is also dual compound apparently ... which might go some way to improving feedback from the front (softer shoulders) I would hope.

spareparts

6,777 posts

226 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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Any further feedback on the Michelin RSes? I need to replace the DR3 which I was not overly impressed with, and thought the DRCs outperformed them. So Michelin RS - yay or nay?

3DP

9,912 posts

233 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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Mr OCD said:
Birky_41 said:
I'll be subscribing to this one. Not run Michelin before other than wets on a track bike which are excellent

Currently running M7RR after lots of recommendations. No questioning cold/wet grip. Best I've used, but I have on a couple occasions wanted a bit more on the rear which has stepped out

These say slightly longer warm up but better dry grip and same wet grip...so time will tell
I've gone from the M7RR's to Pirelli Diablo Rosso 3's to the RS's in the space of 18 months...

The M7's were very good on the blade but slowed the steering a touch, didn't give me good mileage and were the only tyre that let go on me a couple of times including a nasty moment at Donington last year. TBF to the tyres the previous two sets were spot on... so it may have been suspension issues or stty surface...

Regardless it affected my confidence a little so I thought would try the Pirelli DR3's which were absolutely brilliant on the blade but always liking to try new st for the sake of it I thought I'd give the RS's a go... the cheap £49 track day deal made it a no brainer! biggrin

Initial impressions are pretty good but very quick steering on the blade and do take a little longer to warm up than the Pirelli's I had before (I've had the back move a little when cold) ... no issues at all in the wet either despite very little tread grooves!

IMHO all of them are better than we are ... but at the moment my favourite is the Pirelli DR3's. They suit the blade and my riding.
I've found the M7RR wanting a little when part worn at the rear, although generally I've found the M7RR works best running the rear tyre on the road between 34 and 36psi. If your bike recommends 42psi at the rear it just feels a little loose.

Birky_41

4,276 posts

183 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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spareparts said:
Any further feedback on the Michelin RSes? I need to replace the DR3 which I was not overly impressed with, and thought the DRCs outperformed them. So Michelin RS - yay or nay?
Im guessing you must run a fast road pace. Anyone that rides like they are used to SC or DRC say that about the Rosso3 or M7RR

Also I second the tyre pressure bit. Metz said run 42 rear...it was a joke, like seriously you cannot ride at pace, lean over and wind it on. TC comes on or if you ride a low setting/off it comes round on you. 34/35psi rear for me is much better with 33/4 front

For summer I will also switch to a stickier DRC or SC and will leave the M7RR as a cold/winter tyre. They are great for this but move about too much in the summer for my liking (rear only front has been fine)

3DP

9,912 posts

233 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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Birky_41 said:
spareparts said:
Any further feedback on the Michelin RSes? I need to replace the DR3 which I was not overly impressed with, and thought the DRCs outperformed them. So Michelin RS - yay or nay?
Im guessing you must run a fast road pace. Anyone that rides like they are used to SC or DRC say that about the Rosso3 or M7RR

Also I second the tyre pressure bit. Metz said run 42 rear...it was a joke, like seriously you cannot ride at pace, lean over and wind it on. TC comes on or if you ride a low setting/off it comes round on you. 34/35psi rear for me is much better with 33/4 front

For summer I will also switch to a stickier DRC or SC and will leave the M7RR as a cold/winter tyre. They are great for this but move about too much in the summer for my liking (rear only front has been fine)
Might try this Michelin Power RS then - I love the DRC on the road. Hate the SCs as just too pointed profile and wooden unless hot and loaded. Trouble is a rear DRC lasts me 1000 miles. An M7RR is about 2200 on the Blade and looking like nearly 3000 on the Speed Triple rear.

Front M7RR I have no problems with but rear definitely needs the pressure drop. I run 35psi front and rear on Blade and 34f 36r on the Speed Triple

No TC on my bikes though - generally when the rear gets loose, I'm reacting like this baby...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9oxmRT2YWw

Mr OCD

6,388 posts

210 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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I've done a few miles now and have been able to push the RS's a bit on the road and track.

A very good tyre for sure and the front is superb ... but you do need to play with the pressures.

I've settled on 35:35 on the blade and it's spot on. Michelins recommended road pressures were frankly ridiculous... the recommended track pressure was pretty much spot on now.

Be interested to hear other people's feedback or whether I'm just talking ste (as usual) lol biggrin

spareparts

6,777 posts

226 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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Birky_41 said:
spareparts said:
Any further feedback on the Michelin RSes? I need to replace the DR3 which I was not overly impressed with, and thought the DRCs outperformed them. So Michelin RS - yay or nay?
Im guessing you must run a fast road pace. Anyone that rides like they are used to SC or DRC say that about the Rosso3 or M7RR

Also I second the tyre pressure bit. Metz said run 42 rear...it was a joke, like seriously you cannot ride at pace, lean over and wind it on. TC comes on or if you ride a low setting/off it comes round on you. 34/35psi rear for me is much better with 33/4 front

For summer I will also switch to a stickier DRC or SC and will leave the M7RR as a cold/winter tyre. They are great for this but move about too much in the summer for my liking (rear only front has been fine)
On a 1098, I run Pirelli road pressures at about 33f/32r which seems to work well. My criticism of the DR3 is that they lack outright dry grip compared to the DRC. The M7RR offers more dry grip too. I prefer the carcass shape of the DRC and DR3, however, to the M7RR. There are definitely faster road riders than me, but I find SCs rarely get up to their optimal temperature on the road. DRCs are still my favourite, but the tyre is at least 6 years old now! Amazed that they are still in Pirelli's lineup, they are that good.

Mr OCD said:
I've done a few miles now and have been able to push the RS's a bit on the road and track.

A very good tyre for sure and the front is superb ... but you do need to play with the pressures.

I've settled on 35:35 on the blade and it's spot on. Michelins recommended road pressures were frankly ridiculous... the recommended track pressure was pretty much spot on now.

Be interested to hear other people's feedback or whether I'm just talking ste (as usual) lol biggrin
Really tempted to give these a try for a change. Not sure if they have a less pointy carcass compared to previous Michelin tyres?

Ho Lee Kau

2,278 posts

124 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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Birky_41 said:
I'll be subscribing to this one. Not run Michelin before other than wets on a track bike which are excellent

Currently running M7RR after lots of recommendations. No questioning cold/wet grip. Best I've used, but I have on a couple occasions wanted a bit more on the rear which has stepped out

These say slightly longer warm up but better dry grip and same wet grip...so time will tell
So how about commenting on my thread where I described exactly that problem and asked for people to post their tire pressures?

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...


Edited by Ho Lee Kau on Tuesday 25th April 14:49

Ho Lee Kau

2,278 posts

124 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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Mr OCD said:
Birky_41 said:
I'll be subscribing to this one. Not run Michelin before other than wets on a track bike which are excellent

Currently running M7RR after lots of recommendations. No questioning cold/wet grip. Best I've used, but I have on a couple occasions wanted a bit more on the rear which has stepped out

These say slightly longer warm up but better dry grip and same wet grip...so time will tell
I've gone from the M7RR's to Pirelli Diablo Rosso 3's to the RS's in the space of 18 months...

The M7's were very good on the blade but slowed the steering a touch, didn't give me good mileage and were the only tyre that let go on me a couple of times including a nasty moment at Donington last year. TBF to the tyres the previous two sets were spot on... so it may have been suspension issues or stty surface...

Regardless it affected my confidence a little so I thought would try the Pirelli DR3's which were absolutely brilliant on the blade but always liking to try new st for the sake of it I thought I'd give the RS's a go... the cheap £49 track day deal made it a no brainer! biggrin

Initial impressions are pretty good but very quick steering on the blade and do take a little longer to warm up than the Pirelli's I had before (I've had the back move a little when cold) ... no issues at all in the wet either despite very little tread grooves!

IMHO all of them are better than we are ... but at the moment my favourite is the Pirelli DR3's. They suit the blade and my riding.
Did your rear step out? Was it on public road? What ambient temp was it at the time, was it wet? What tire pressure were you using?

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Ho Lee Kau

2,278 posts

124 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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3DP said:
Mr OCD said:
Birky_41 said:
I'll be subscribing to this one. Not run Michelin before other than wets on a track bike which are excellent

Currently running M7RR after lots of recommendations. No questioning cold/wet grip. Best I've used, but I have on a couple occasions wanted a bit more on the rear which has stepped out

These say slightly longer warm up but better dry grip and same wet grip...so time will tell
I've gone from the M7RR's to Pirelli Diablo Rosso 3's to the RS's in the space of 18 months...

The M7's were very good on the blade but slowed the steering a touch, didn't give me good mileage and were the only tyre that let go on me a couple of times including a nasty moment at Donington last year. TBF to the tyres the previous two sets were spot on... so it may have been suspension issues or stty surface...

Regardless it affected my confidence a little so I thought would try the Pirelli DR3's which were absolutely brilliant on the blade but always liking to try new st for the sake of it I thought I'd give the RS's a go... the cheap £49 track day deal made it a no brainer! biggrin

Initial impressions are pretty good but very quick steering on the blade and do take a little longer to warm up than the Pirelli's I had before (I've had the back move a little when cold) ... no issues at all in the wet either despite very little tread grooves!

IMHO all of them are better than we are ... but at the moment my favourite is the Pirelli DR3's. They suit the blade and my riding.
I've found the M7RR wanting a little when part worn at the rear, although generally I've found the M7RR works best running the rear tyre on the road between 34 and 36psi. If your bike recommends 42psi at the rear it just feels a little loose.
That's like 2.3-2.5 bar, I do not even go that low. Is that cold pressure? On a dry day? Does it not affect longevity quite negatively?
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Ho Lee Kau

2,278 posts

124 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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Birky_41 said:
spareparts said:
Any further feedback on the Michelin RSes? I need to replace the DR3 which I was not overly impressed with, and thought the DRCs outperformed them. So Michelin RS - yay or nay?
Im guessing you must run a fast road pace. Anyone that rides like they are used to SC or DRC say that about the Rosso3 or M7RR

Also I second the tyre pressure bit. Metz said run 42 rear...it was a joke, like seriously you cannot ride at pace, lean over and wind it on. TC comes on or if you ride a low setting/off it comes round on you. 34/35psi rear for me is much better with 33/4 front
For summer I will also switch to a stickier DRC or SC and will leave the M7RR as a cold/winter tyre. They are great for this but move about too much in the summer for my liking (rear only front has been fine)
That low, really? How long do your tires last?
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Mr OCD

6,388 posts

210 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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spareparts said:
Really tempted to give these a try for a change. Not sure if they have a less pointy carcass compared to previous Michelin tyres?
I would say they do ... however, they are still pretty quick steering. They don't seem as pointy compared to the PP3's I had a couple years ago imho.


Jazoli

9,086 posts

249 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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Ho Lee Kau said:
That low, really? How long do your tires last?
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
why are you constantly quoting your own post? if people want to comment they will, its annoying when the last six posts on a thread are yours.