The Official Chelsea Thread [Vol 3]

The Official Chelsea Thread [Vol 3]

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Adam B

27,219 posts

254 months

Saturday 17th August 2019
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Don’t get this biggest clubs bks, Chelsea don’t have the stature or history of a Liverpool or United but young players probably care less about that. Much more interested in current ambitions and intent, who they will play with and what they get paid, and location. City have fk all history or culture but continue to attract talent because they pay huge wages, have a great squad and Pep.

Chelsea pay high wages, have a decent squad and London is way more desirable than the damp NW for foreign players (and I say this as a London based Liverpool fan)

monty999

1,120 posts

105 months

Saturday 17th August 2019
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Adam B said:
Don’t get this biggest clubs bks, Chelsea don’t have the stature or history of a Liverpool or United but young players probably care less about that. Much more interested in current ambitions and intent, who they will play with and what they get paid, and location. City have fk all history or culture but continue to attract talent because they pay huge wages, have a great squad and Pep.

Chelsea pay high wages, have a decent squad and London is way more desirable than the damp NW for foreign players (and I say this as a London based Liverpool fan)
When people talk about 'biggest' clubs what they really mean is 'wealthiest' clubs, history means fk all to the modern mercenary footballer who is controlled by some ruthless agent. After all, the likes of Blackpool and Notts county have a st load of history and bugger all money.

wjb

5,100 posts

131 months

Sunday 18th August 2019
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Should be an entertaining game today, 2-2 with a sprinkling of VAR, same as yesterday evening biggrin

Hope Tammy gets a goal, especially after his treatment the other night.

jcremonini

2,099 posts

167 months

Sunday 18th August 2019
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Adam B said:
Don’t get this biggest clubs bks, Chelsea don’t have the stature or history of a Liverpool or United but young players probably care less about that. Much more interested in current ambitions and intent, who they will play with and what they get paid, and location. City have fk all history or culture but continue to attract talent because they pay huge wages, have a great squad and Pep.

Chelsea pay high wages, have a decent squad and London is way more desirable than the damp NW for foreign players (and I say this as a London based Liverpool fan)
Don’t have the history of Liverpool ? Eh ? We are 114 years old and have won the premier league a few times. We even won the old Division 1 if you care to look ( as well as loads of other cups) You, on the other hand, haven’t The premier league at all, so I’m puzzled by your statement. Or do you only count the 70s and 80s towards ‘history’ and forget the stuff either side ?

I’m even more perplexed by your ‘city don’t have culture’ statement. What is that supposed to mean ?

Adam B

27,219 posts

254 months

Sunday 18th August 2019
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jcremonini said:
Don’t have the history of Liverpool ? Eh ? We are 114 years old and have won the premier league a few times. We even won the old Division 1 if you care to look ( as well as loads of other cups) You, on the other hand, haven’t The premier league at all, so I’m puzzled by your statement. Or do you only count the 70s and 80s towards ‘history’ and forget the stuff either side ?

I’m even more perplexed by your ‘city don’t have culture’ statement. What is that supposed to mean ?
I was actually supporting the notion that a player would want to play for Chelsea when someone suggested they should move to a “big club”

I can’t be bothered to engage on the rest as it was all pretty clear what I meant

smn159

12,644 posts

217 months

Sunday 18th August 2019
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jcremonini said:
Adam B said:
Don’t get this biggest clubs bks, Chelsea don’t have the stature or history of a Liverpool or United but young players probably care less about that. Much more interested in current ambitions and intent, who they will play with and what they get paid, and location. City have fk all history or culture but continue to attract talent because they pay huge wages, have a great squad and Pep.

Chelsea pay high wages, have a decent squad and London is way more desirable than the damp NW for foreign players (and I say this as a London based Liverpool fan)
Don’t have the history of Liverpool ? Eh ? We are 114 years old and have won the premier league a few times. We even won the old Division 1 if you care to look ( as well as loads of other cups) You, on the other hand, haven’t The premier league at all, so I’m puzzled by your statement. Or do you only count the 70s and 80s towards ‘history’ and forget the stuff either side ?

I’m even more perplexed by your ‘city don’t have culture’ statement. What is that supposed to mean ?
I've always assumed that the 'History / Culture' jibes from Liverpool fans are references to them winning the league back in the 80's, when most of the fans making them were presumably growing up. In fact Liverpool have no more history / culture than any other club formed at around the same time

trackdemon

12,177 posts

261 months

Sunday 18th August 2019
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Adam B said:
I can’t be bothered to prove I was wrong
Fixed that for you. HTH

trackdemon

12,177 posts

261 months

Sunday 18th August 2019
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Good start. Then......

hilly10

7,105 posts

228 months

Sunday 18th August 2019
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No problem to start out at a blistering pace but a whole lot harder to keep it going for 90 mins

BMW A6

1,911 posts

64 months

Sunday 18th August 2019
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trackdemon said:
Good start. Then......
Chelsea fans shouldn't fret too much.

You were always going to struggle against a strong, determined, pacy Utd side looking for silverware this season.

You played well against Liverpool and should have won comfortably.

You should let fat Frank settle in for a few seasons.

Gadgetmac

14,984 posts

108 months

Sunday 18th August 2019
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BMW A6 said:
You should let fat Frank settle in for a few seasons.
This is Abramovitch you're talking about...you can win the Champions League and still get sacked a few weeks later.

Snow has more chance of "settling in" in the Sahara.

A Winner Is You

24,972 posts

227 months

Sunday 18th August 2019
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The transfer ban, loss of Hazard and connection to the club means he'll get more of a chance than anyone before him.

smn159

12,644 posts

217 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Anyone calling him Fat Frank should be obliged to post a selfie and their own BMI wink

ChevyChase77

1,079 posts

58 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Adam B said:
Don’t get this biggest clubs bks, Chelsea don’t have the stature or history of a Liverpool or United but young players probably care less about that. Much more interested in current ambitions and intent, who they will play with and what they get paid, and location. City have fk all history or culture but continue to attract talent because they pay huge wages, have a great squad and Pep.

Chelsea pay high wages, have a decent squad and London is way more desirable than the damp NW for foreign players (and I say this as a London based Liverpool fan)
We won a European trophy before Liverpool did. We don't have the history though.

ChevyChase77

1,079 posts

58 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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smn159 said:
jcremonini said:
Adam B said:
Don’t get this biggest clubs bks, Chelsea don’t have the stature or history of a Liverpool or United but young players probably care less about that. Much more interested in current ambitions and intent, who they will play with and what they get paid, and location. City have fk all history or culture but continue to attract talent because they pay huge wages, have a great squad and Pep.

Chelsea pay high wages, have a decent squad and London is way more desirable than the damp NW for foreign players (and I say this as a London based Liverpool fan)
Don’t have the history of Liverpool ? Eh ? We are 114 years old and have won the premier league a few times. We even won the old Division 1 if you care to look ( as well as loads of other cups) You, on the other hand, haven’t The premier league at all, so I’m puzzled by your statement. Or do you only count the 70s and 80s towards ‘history’ and forget the stuff either side ?

I’m even more perplexed by your ‘city don’t have culture’ statement. What is that supposed to mean ?
I've always assumed that the 'History / Culture' jibes from Liverpool fans are references to them winning the league back in the 80's, when most of the fans making them were presumably growing up. In fact Liverpool have no more history / culture than any other club formed at around the same time
Quite.

Leicester Loyal

4,541 posts

122 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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We could have been 4 or 5 goals behind after the first 15 minutes, but then I thought we were unlucky not to win it at the end. I think our first couple of games show its going to be close for the 6th 7th and 8th positions in the table.

ChevyChase77

1,079 posts

58 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Leicester Loyal said:
We could have been 4 or 5 goals behind after the first 15 minutes, but then I thought we were unlucky not to win it at the end. I think our first couple of games show its going to be close for the 6th 7th and 8th positions in the table.
Still too early to tell. I don't know your squad that well, but we were missing quite a few - and had to play Liverpool in Istanbul on Wednesday where as you had a free week - that quick start from us really took it's toll in the 2nd half....

TwigtheWonderkid

43,342 posts

150 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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I didn't celebrate mount's goal. At first glance, it looked like there might have been a foul on Indeedi, so I was waiting to see if there would be a VAR check. Then, after about 30 seconds, it appeared all was good, but by then the moment had passed.

The game is dead as far as I am concerned. This'll be my last season I think. Gutted. Used to love football.

My brother is a Brighton fan and their VAR check that eventually disallowed their goal on Saturday didn't get resolved until the ball was on the centre spot waiting for WHU to kick off. He also says he's done with it.

monty999

1,120 posts

105 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
I didn't celebrate mount's goal. At first glance, it looked like there might have been a foul on Indeedi, so I was waiting to see if there would be a VAR check. Then, after about 30 seconds, it appeared all was good, but by then the moment had passed.

The game is dead as far as I am concerned. This'll be my last season I think. Gutted. Used to love football.

My brother is a Brighton fan and their VAR check that eventually disallowed their goal on Saturday didn't get resolved until the ball was on the centre spot waiting for WHU to kick off. He also says he's done with it.
We've been told to stop moaning about it and it's here to stay but so many moaners can't be wrong !! Even the pundits are now seeing the damage it's causing the game, as Danny Murphy said "football has never been a perfect game and never should be", I totally agree.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,342 posts

150 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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monty999 said:
as Danny Murphy said "football has never been a perfect game and never should be", I totally agree.
I've been having this conversation from when it was first muted

Football will be better when we get the big decisions right.
Me: why?
Well...it's obvious innit.
Me: not to me, so tell me why.
Coz the big decisions will be right.
Me: err, that may be, but why is that better?
What d'ya mean mate...obviously that's better.
Me: why?
Coz they're right.
Me: err, that may be, but why is that better?

Rinse and repeat. Still waiting for an answer.

Sometimes I get "the big teams get it all their own way, VAR will stop that"

Mmmmm, let's see the table at the end of the season. I have a hunch the top 6 might not look too different to last season.

I think Man City will get more pens than Sheff Utd......because they'll spend a lot longer in the opposition pen area.