The Official Chelsea Thread [Vol 3]

[jcremonini]

martinbiz said:

trackdemon said:

Adam. said:

You poor things, maybe set up a charity so we can contribute

( 127m is our biggest net spend in history, and by quite some way)

And?

Still needing to buy success like the northern lot. Don’t you think TT is good enough to improve most of what you already have?

Name me a club that hasn’t needed to buy success. They all do in one way or another.

No other club in the EPL has used as many academy players as we, regularly, have this year.

Supplementing those players is where we spend, Hopefully, going forward, we’ll do it with a bit more caution than we have in the past. I suspect the new owners will be a little more patient than Roman in this respect.

All this talk of a war chest is pure press speculation anyway - and you’d have to be a bit of a moron to take what they say as gospel.

[A Winner Is You]

martinbiz said:

trackdemon said:

Adam. said:

You poor things, maybe set up a charity so we can contribute

( 127m is our biggest net spend in history, and by quite some way)

And?

Still needing to buy success like the northern lot. Don’t you think TT is good enough to improve most of what you already have?

Everyone buys success though, the days of signing players who lived within walking distance of the ground are gone forever.

[jammy-git]

A Winner Is You said:

martinbiz said:

trackdemon said:

Adam. said:

You poor things, maybe set up a charity so we can contribute

( 127m is our biggest net spend in history, and by quite some way)

And?

Still needing to buy success like the northern lot. Don’t you think TT is good enough to improve most of what you already have?

Everyone buys success though, the days of signing players who lived within walking distance of the ground are gone forever.

Were they ever really here?

[trackdemon]

martinbiz said:

trackdemon said:

Adam. said:

You poor things, maybe set up a charity so we can contribute

( 127m is our biggest net spend in history, and by quite some way)

And?

Still needing to buy success like the northern lot. Don’t you think TT is good enough to improve most of what you already have?

That argument is beyond tired. Who's the arbiter of how much a club is allowed to invest in playing staff, with the hope of improved performance.... you, and it'd be £127m because saying anything else would be hypocrisy? Maybe Brentford would say you buy success, and maybe Southend would say it of Brentford.... so where do you draw the line?

[trackdemon]

jcremonini said:

martinbiz said:

trackdemon said:

Adam. said:

You poor things, maybe set up a charity so we can contribute

( 127m is our biggest net spend in history, and by quite some way)

And?

Still needing to buy success like the northern lot. Don’t you think TT is good enough to improve most of what you already have?

Name me a club that hasn’t needed to buy success. They all do in one way or another.

No other club in the EPL has used as many academy players as we, regularly, have this year.

Supplementing those players is where we spend, Hopefully, going forward, we’ll do it with a bit more caution than we have in the past. I suspect the new owners will be a little more patient than Roman in this respect.

All this talk of a war chest is pure press speculation anyway - and you’d have to be a bit of a moron to take what they say as gospel.

I may resemble that remark then , because Talksport have a pretty decent record of being fairly on the money (pun intended) with their reporting (yes one is aware it's elsewhere now too). And whilst I wouldn't go as far as to take it as 'gospel' I bet there's some substance to it - maybe not the precise amount, but hardly anyone buys a big business (yes sadly that's all we can view Football clubs as nowadays) and fails to invest in it.

[hemidom]

We've done pretty well on net spend in the last decade. The decade before that is probably grim reading though.

Sales of Hazard, Costa, Morata et al have brought a lot in during recent seasons. Even last year's outlay was offset by departures. The problem is when we've spent big in that same period we've generally wasted it.

[blue al]

I suppose Madrid haven’t been spending

[TwigtheWonderkid]

trackdemon said:

That argument is beyond tired. Who's the arbiter of how much a club is allowed to invest in playing staff, with the hope of improved performance.... you, and it'd be 127m because saying anything else would be hypocrisy? Maybe Brentford would say you buy success, and maybe Southend would say it of Brentford.... so where do you draw the line?

People draw the line at a million pounds more than their club has spent. We think Man City have bought success, Spurs think we've bought success, WHU think Spurs have bought their top 4 finish, Orient think WHU bought their place at the Olympic Stadium, and so on.

[Dblue]

GT03ROB said:

Well seasons now over......

3rd is a fair enough finish. Taking the high points it could be seen as a good season, but ultimately nowhere near consistent enough or creative enough when it mattered. The Abramovich saga had to have taken a toll over the last couple of months.

Highpoints...the 1st 80mins in the Bernabau,

Low points.... the dire draws (Manchester united twice, Brighton twice), chilwells injury, the dire 1st leg against Madrid.

Hopefully the new owners deal will go through in the next week or so & Tuchal can get the players he wants. There is something missing in this current group & it's hard to put a finger on it, but watching city yesterday, you can start to see the differences. The pace of play is higher; the ball is moved forward much quicker (much less side to side); the precision of the passing is far higher (its a basic but our passing is frequently very poor when it comes to allowing the recipient to move forward).

I've said what i think about squad changes & i do think they need to be extensive if we are to compete next year.

Agree with most of this. The other high points were the dismantling of Juve at home and Leicester away and the fanatstic head to heads with Liverpool (All of them were great, but the 2-2 and the Carabao final were absolute classics)

The low points were numerous but the feeling of anxiety and being under siege after the sanctioning was like nothing I've ever felt. The level of vitriol was unbelievable , from hitherto reasonable journalists like Oliver Holt and Henry Winter to the rabid usual suspects , it honestly felt like we (All Chelsea's fans) were personally responsible for the invasion.
A friends 6 year old daughter was asked to go home and change when she went to school in a Chelsea branded polo shirt!

Will personally struggle to ever overlook some of that kicking us when we're down crap from them.

I'm optimistic that if Boehly fulfils his potential and backs us as he has the Dodgers we will be good

[Pinkie15]

martinbiz said:

trackdemon said:

Adam. said:

You poor things, maybe set up a charity so we can contribute

( 127m is our biggest net spend in history, and by quite some way)

And?

Still needing to buy success like the northern lot. Don’t you think TT is good enough to improve most of what you already have?

Personally, I don't think he's good enough full stop.

Conservative, slow, seems horrified if anyone passes the ball more than 5 yds, clueless on substitutions (can't think of a single one that turned a game in our favour), plays players out of position, no idea what to do with Lukaku.

[Adam.]

trackdemon said:

That argument is beyond tired. Who's the arbiter of how much a club is allowed to invest in playing staff, with the hope of improved performance.... you, and it'd be 127m because saying anything else would be hypocrisy? Maybe Brentford would say you buy success, and maybe Southend would say it of Brentford.... so where do you draw the line?

I wasn’t saying what anyone could or couldn’t spend (that’s FFPs job and it does it so well).

My comment was a reaction to someone saying 200m won’t be enough for Chelsea, when every manager apart from Pep would dream of such funds.

[smn159]

Adam. said:

trackdemon said:

That argument is beyond tired. Who's the arbiter of how much a club is allowed to invest in playing staff, with the hope of improved performance.... you, and it'd be 127m because saying anything else would be hypocrisy? Maybe Brentford would say you buy success, and maybe Southend would say it of Brentford.... so where do you draw the line?

I wasn’t saying what anyone could or couldn’t spend (that’s FFPs job and it does it so well).

My comment was a reaction to someone saying 200m won’t be enough for Chelsea, when every manager apart from Pep would dream of such funds.

Well of course they would, but context is everything. Which of those managers / teams would be able lose a couple of key first team players, including one who's probably near the best in the world in his position and seriously challenge for the PL and CL with £200m?

[Yidwann]

Adam. said:

You poor things, maybe set up a charity so we can contribute

( 127m is our biggest net spend in history, and by quite some way)

And yet, you still seem completely oblivious as to why everyone dislikes you?

[Adam.]

smn159 said:

Well of course they would, but context is everything. Which of those managers / teams would be able lose a couple of key first team players, including one who's probably near the best in the world in his position and seriously challenge for the PL and CL with 200m?

Maybe opinion differ when you are a fan vs looking in from the outside, but I look at this Chelsea squad who finished 3rd and see a lot of quality and decent depth. Yes you are losing Rudiger and he will be xpensive to replace but otherwise you still look very strong IMHO and have a good manager. Need to just get a tune out Lukaku and/or Werner

[Dblue]

Adam. said:

smn159 said:

Well of course they would, but context is everything. Which of those managers / teams would be able lose a couple of key first team players, including one who's probably near the best in the world in his position and seriously challenge for the PL and CL with 200m?

Maybe opinion differ when you are a fan vs looking in from the outside, but I look at this Chelsea squad who finished 3rd and see a lot of quality and decent depth. Yes you are losing Rudiger and he will be xpensive to replace but otherwise you still look very strong IMHO and have a good manager. Need to just get a tune out Lukaku and/or Werner

I would agree with this , the very difficult few months we've been through and 2 agonizing losses in finals , have had an effect on the supporters too for sure.
But the core is pretty good, the returnees, Gallagher, Broja , Colwill and Gilmour all offer something to look at , Chilwell is back and TT is clearly chomping at the bit. All good.
The problem is we're losing too many players in the same area of the team and the natural successors off the Cobham production line have been sold off! (Tomori, Guehi, Livramento and Lamptey)
And good as our forwards are they all lack the ruthlessness of a Salah or Mane. It means we don't kill off teams we dominate

[aeropilot]

Adam. said:

smn159 said:

Well of course they would, but context is everything. Which of those managers / teams would be able lose a couple of key first team players, including one who's probably near the best in the world in his position and seriously challenge for the PL and CL with 200m?

Maybe opinion differ when you are a fan vs looking in from the outside, but I look at this Chelsea squad who finished 3rd and see a lot of quality and decent depth. Yes you are losing Rudiger and he will be xpensive to replace but otherwise you still look very strong IMHO and have a good manager.

Losing Rudiger and Christensen.

[GT03ROB]

Haters gonna hate but Chelsea have just been awarded another trophy....

...Football club with the best reputation by the Worlds Sports Organisation, awarded for promoting peace, and opposing discrimination, inequality and poverty.

[GT03ROB]

Club has announced the deal is done.

[Riff Raff]

Someone linked to this on Chelsea Chat.

Worth a post here, just to bring back some good memories.....

[GT03ROB]

Riff Raff said:

Someone linked to this on Chelsea Chat.

Worth a post here, just to bring back some good memories.....

Some super strikes there. A real shame his off field problems impacted his stay