The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 13]
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TTmonkey said:
Miss RedTrident on days like these..... 
Dont be stupid.He’s be on here ranting about FSG, the stadium and all sorts of unrelated crap.
What he certainly wouldn’t be doing is clearly pointing at Klopp and this results sits at his feet and some very specific players.
Simple.
Klopp out? I don’t believe so as there’s a very good manager in there - I just wonder where the f*** he is.
Pommy said:
Klopp out? I don’t believe so as there’s a very good manager in there - I just wonder where the f*** he is.
My thoughts too at the moment. A year ago he was looking like a genius, the way he had the team playing (ie before xmas 2016). The wheels look like they've well and truly fallen off at the moment.type-r said:
anniesdad said:
I thought Henderson, your captain, was your first choice CDM?
No, he is our short side pass specialist. 
There are a lot better footballing brains on this site but I cannot understand how everyone from pundits to fan sites all constantly say that the defence is truly awful with too many mistakes game after game and to be honest, yet again today it happens again.
Can someone please explain why we keep buying similar players that have similar roles (Ox, Keita) when we already have a load that are quite similar such Firmino, Couts, Sturridge, Lalllana, Salah etc etc when we actually need 3 or 4+ at the back and even then we looked at 1 (VVD) and had not one other option on the books. I just wish a pundit would just ask Klopp that question
Flip Martian said:
Pommy said:
Klopp out? I don’t believe so as there’s a very good manager in there - I just wonder where the f*** he is.
My thoughts too at the moment. A year ago he was looking like a genius, the way he had the team playing (ie before xmas 2016). The wheels look like they've well and truly fallen off at the moment.
Not long been back.
Tottenham had their tactics spot on today. They defended in numbers and were really well organised, but they always had 2-3 players ready to hit us on the break. Though in the first half, the number of long balls that were causing us problems was ridiculous.
We were better once Loren came off. Matip and Gomez is the partnership I'd like to see going forward. Gomez looked much more assured than Lovren. The Ox also looks much improved from earlier in the season.
Can, Henderson and Firmino continued their average starts to the season.
Today was definitely a mix of individual errors and Kopp not getting things right.
Tottenham had their tactics spot on today. They defended in numbers and were really well organised, but they always had 2-3 players ready to hit us on the break. Though in the first half, the number of long balls that were causing us problems was ridiculous.
We were better once Loren came off. Matip and Gomez is the partnership I'd like to see going forward. Gomez looked much more assured than Lovren. The Ox also looks much improved from earlier in the season.
Can, Henderson and Firmino continued their average starts to the season.
Today was definitely a mix of individual errors and Kopp not getting things right.
I didn't think it was too bad. Getting in took a while, missed the first few minutes. We were just sitting down when the first goal went in.
Getting out was OK. Though there were tens of thousands of people stopped on Wembley Way. We took a side road and managed to bypass a lot of the queue. Took just over 2 hours to get home and it usually takes 50-60 minutes to get from Canterbury to St Pancras anyway. Stayed to the final whistle so didn't jump the queue by getting out early either.
Getting out was OK. Though there were tens of thousands of people stopped on Wembley Way. We took a side road and managed to bypass a lot of the queue. Took just over 2 hours to get home and it usually takes 50-60 minutes to get from Canterbury to St Pancras anyway. Stayed to the final whistle so didn't jump the queue by getting out early either.
GloverMart said:
desolate said:
'When enough is enough' just before this thread. Quite apposite - is that it for Lovren?
I said it on here not long after you signed him and he started wobbling. He needs a competent CDM in front of him to protect him.... he had Wanyama and Schneiderlin at Southampton but he has no guard at Liverpool. Fonte looks poor at West Ham too for a similar reason.It will be all very well spending megabucks on VVD in January or next summer but if you don't have a decent CDM in front of him, it'll be a waste of money.
phil_cardiff said:
ferrisbueller said:
anniesdad said:
I thought Henderson, your captain, was your first choice CDM?
We don't play a CDM. Klopp doesn't believe in CDMs.
He wants to win the ball high up and counter from there. Not sit deep and counter punch. TBF there's not an awful lot of difference between his ideology and Rodgers' IMO.
When it's your job and your back room teams job to put out a competitive team on the pitch then Klopp failed months ago and has not rectified it through tactics or personnel.
For me Klopp cannot bring us level with the teams we seek to emulate, he is gambling red / black each week that we will score more than we concede, I don't see the worlds great teams doing that.
For me Klopp cannot bring us level with the teams we seek to emulate, he is gambling red / black each week that we will score more than we concede, I don't see the worlds great teams doing that.
I watched the game next too a spurs mate. When those first two goals went in was not unexpected.
Lovren can go. Mings can go.
They are not good enough we simply had to sign players.
If you had to choose an eleven between spurs and Liverpool I would only take three Liverpool players. Tells you everything from our point of view.
Well done to spurs. Deserved. Hope they win the league.
Lovren can go. Mings can go.
They are not good enough we simply had to sign players.
If you had to choose an eleven between spurs and Liverpool I would only take three Liverpool players. Tells you everything from our point of view.
Well done to spurs. Deserved. Hope they win the league.
ferrisbueller said:
GloverMart said:
desolate said:
'When enough is enough' just before this thread. Quite apposite - is that it for Lovren?
I said it on here not long after you signed him and he started wobbling. He needs a competent CDM in front of him to protect him.... he had Wanyama and Schneiderlin at Southampton but he has no guard at Liverpool. Fonte looks poor at West Ham too for a similar reason.It will be all very well spending megabucks on VVD in January or next summer but if you don't have a decent CDM in front of him, it'll be a waste of money.
type-r said:
Klopp's stubborness is really starting to get on my nerves now. Sort out the f
king defence. Change something FFS!
Was at the game yesteerday and it was laughable. You could see that Spurs could break with ease, and at no time did Klopp decide to sit someone in front of the back 4. king defence. Change something FFS!Milner, Henderson and Cann offered nothing going forward, nothing defensively, just seemed to be there in numbers and thats it.
Challo said:
Was at the game yesteerday and it was laughable. You could see that Spurs could break with ease, and at no time did Klopp decide to sit someone in front of the back 4.
Milner, Henderson and Cann offered nothing going forward, nothing defensively, just seemed to be there in numbers and thats it.
Our performance yesterday was indefensible - however all 4 goals were basic errors on our part. Spurs are a proper side, but what did they create beyond the Son chance that hit the bar?Milner, Henderson and Cann offered nothing going forward, nothing defensively, just seemed to be there in numbers and thats it.
I accept that being so far ahead meant that they didn't need to push.
On the negative - if you were part of the attack you would definitely be thinking "what's the point?" by now.
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