How far could Celtic go if ???

How far could Celtic go if ???

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JuniorD

8,616 posts

222 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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How far up the EPL would you have to look to find a team that would not get thrashed by PSG

Edited by JuniorD on Thursday 23 November 10:40

JuniorD

8,616 posts

222 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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Nanook said:
JuniorD said:
How far up the EPL would you have to look to find a team that would not get thrashed by PSV
Not sure why that's relevant?
It's relevant because there appears to be undelying suggestion on this thread that celtics performance against PSG is an indicator of how they would perform in the EPL, which indeed is the topic of this thread.



Edited by JuniorD on Thursday 23 November 10:41

JuniorD

8,616 posts

222 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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Nanook said:
JuniorD said:
It's relevant because there appears to be underlying suggestion on this thread that celtics performance against PSV is an indicator of how they would perform in the EPL, which indeed is the topic of this thread.
You're a Celtic fan, yes?

When did they play PSV?
I get you. Auto correct has been changing PSG to PSV. You knew what I meant and what was intended but instead of simply pointing out the error, you had to be smart arse.

JuniorD

8,616 posts

222 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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Nanook said:
JuniorD said:
I get you. Auto correct has been changing PSG to PSV. You knew what I meant and what was intended but instead of simply pointing out the error, you had to be smart arse.
I did?

If you say so. Bit grumpy this morning?
Going back to your original question, now that I've corrected PSV to PSG, do you now see why my question was relevant?

And if not, what was your point?

rsbmw

3,464 posts

104 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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Many people missing the point of the thread really. The topic is about how well would Celtic do in the EPL once they have the status and money to go along with their existing name and fan base and thus can attract the talent. Them with their current lineup getting thrashed by one of the best and most expensive clubs in the world is not surprising and has no bearing on how well they would do once in the EPL with accompanying budget.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,246 posts

149 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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rsbmw said:
Many people missing the point of the thread really. The topic is about how well would Celtic do in the EPL once they have the status and money to go along with their existing name and fan base and thus can attract the talent. Them with their current lineup getting thrashed by one of the best and most expensive clubs in the world is not surprising and has no bearing on how well they would do once in the EPL with accompanying budget.
If that's the question, then the answer is "who knows?" Would they buy the right players, would those players hit the ground running?

Bournemouth and Brighton are in the Prem whilst Leeds, Sunderland, Wolves, Villa and many far bigger clubs than Bournemouth are not. Everton may not be in the Prem next season.

Driver101

14,376 posts

120 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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Nanook said:
JuniorD said:
Going back to your original question, now that I've corrected PSV to PSG, do you now see why my question was relevant?

And if not, what was your point?
Yes, I see your point. And in my opinion, the answer is "not very"

If PSG aren't regularly hammering teams in their own league 7-1, I can't see that they'd be dishing out such a beating to too many teams in the EPL, given that the standard of play is generally higher.
They've scored 4 or more 9 times already this season and it's only November.

Celtic's goal last night was the first they have conceded in the Champions League. Those results included a 3-0 win over Bayern Munich.

PSG would easily win the English Premier league. This is the strongest PSG team ever. They've still managed to knock out the best of English teams in recent years.

Monaco also knocked Man City out last season.

There is a reason PSG are the favourites to win the Champions league.

Driver101

14,376 posts

120 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
If that's the question, then the answer is "who knows?" Would they buy the right players, would those players hit the ground running?

Bournemouth and Brighton are in the Prem whilst Leeds, Sunderland, Wolves, Villa and many far bigger clubs than Bournemouth are not. Everton may not be in the Prem next season.
There was always be exceptions to the rule, but generally the clubs with the most money will be in the top league and doing well.

Everton have made a right mess of their season. They went from a well run club happy with midtable finishes, then squandered lots of money on poor players.

Villa was run into the ground by the owners. Selling all their best players and not investing back into it. Their slump was there to see.

Aren't Leeds and Sunderland where they are to similar financial reasons? Sunderland are up to their necks in debt.

Let's be honest though, The bottom half of the premier league is as weak as it has ever been. They maybe are in the premier league, but they are so far behind it may as well be a different league.


Driver101

14,376 posts

120 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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Nanook said:
4 or more. How many times have they scored 7?

They were beaten 12-1 on aggregate by PSG, and you're going to try and use this to make the point that they'd do well in the EPL? laugh
I didn't say that at all.

PSG would walk the Premier League and hand plenty of thrashing to teams outside the top 3.

The current Celtic team is no worse than half the teams in the premier league.

Granfondo

12,241 posts

205 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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Driver101 said:
I didn't say that at all.

PSG would walk the Premier League and hand plenty of thrashing to teams outside the top 3.

The current Celtic team is no worse than half the teams in the premier league.
Correct,and that is without the £100 odd million budget they have!

2 or 3 seasons in the EPL and Celtic would be top 6.

Driver101

14,376 posts

120 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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Nanook said:
laugh

It's a shame we'll never know.
I've always had the opinion that it would never happen. I'm not so convinced now.

Viewing figures for English football are in serious decline. Sky has attempted to shake things up with new t.v. channels and special offers this year, but the decline is getting worse. They are also highly active in stopping all the illegal streams now.

Even most of the biggest games have drawn in less viewers than last season's average.

Something has to change to stop the rot.




JuniorD

8,616 posts

222 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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Nanook said:
Granfondo said:
Correct,and that is without the £100 odd million budget they have!

2 or 3 seasons in the EPL and Celtic would be top 6.
laugh

It's a shame we'll never know.
I think to 6 is a safe bet, unless they began operating like big old clubs like NUFC, or worse still, Sunderland <shudders>

TwigtheWonderkid

43,246 posts

149 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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Driver101 said:
Nanook said:
laugh

It's a shame we'll never know.
I've always had the opinion that it would never happen. I'm not so convinced now.

Viewing figures for English football are in serious decline. Sky has attempted to shake things up with new t.v. channels and special offers this year, but the decline is getting worse. They are also highly active in stopping all the illegal streams now.

Even most of the biggest games have drawn in less viewers than last season's average.

Something has to change to stop the rot.
It's got nothing to do with the EPL, and everything to do with Sky losing the CL to BT. So people have dropped Sky Sports because they aren't getting both.

drainbrain

5,637 posts

110 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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The last thing the EPL needs is another mediocre team.

And the last thing Celtic need is no further CL action for the foreseeable future.

Both of the above would happen if Celtic went to the EPL.

Being pumped by the big boys and grinding out boring games against other EPL mediocrities might not be every Celtic fan's dream either. And of course that's all there would ever be, outside finishing in the top 6 or winning cups.

Where they are just now they can revel in thrashing dross most weeks and sometimes have the excitement of fighting out narrow wins and draws against said dross too. Plus they get to battle other grim minnows for a CL spot every year and mostly get that spot and then the fans occasionally get to see real teams all of which include some amazing players when a Euro giant comes to Glasgow to give them a CL spanking.

All gotta be more entertaining than languishing mid table in the EPL.

Driver101

14,376 posts

120 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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Every time Celtic have been drawn against an English club in Europe the prediction is always an easy English win.

In the last 20 years Celtic have played English teams in 14 European games.

Have a guess without cheating how many times Celtic have lost.

Driver101

14,376 posts

120 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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Nanook said:
More times than they've won?

I'm genuinely interested though, what's the figure?
4 losses, 4 wins and 6 draws.

Considering they are playing teams representing England in Europe, not the teams at the bottom, that's a very respectable record.