Scots to bring in minimum price booze

Scots to bring in minimum price booze

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crankedup

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25,764 posts

243 months

Wednesday 15th November 2017
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Supreme court find in favour of the Scottish Government and it is now to bring into law the minimum price unit of alcohol.
Announcement on price is awaited however it is generally understood that most but the very cheapest of alcohols will be unaffected at introduction. Thin end of wedge maybe?
This opens the door for our Government to follow the Scots and then perhaps we will see rises in alcohol prices every budget, just like the old days.
Only the lowest income individuals will be affected and this will do nothing to arrest the increase in alcohol abuse (or enjoyment)

Jockman

17,917 posts

160 months

Wednesday 15th November 2017
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So long as the price of batter remains unaffected I don't foresee any large scale social unrest.

crankedup

Original Poster:

25,764 posts

243 months

Wednesday 15th November 2017
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As in fish’n chips.
Can’t beat Northern variety still fried in proper fat.
As for booze price, I agree it will not make a jot of difference to drinking habits wherever one happens to live in the UK. What it could do is drive those dependant on booze to forgo other essentials to feed the habit perhaps.
Just another case of a nannying Government who pretends to be doing the right thing for Society.?

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 15th November 2017
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I have a friend who lives in a poor area of Glasgow. The local culture is , in her words, soaked in booze, and that has consequences in terms of health, violence, other crime and so on. I am not generally in favour of top down social engineering, but there may be a case for it here.

FourWheelDrift

88,510 posts

284 months

Wednesday 15th November 2017
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But if that leads to less sales Buckfast Abbey might have to lay off some monks.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 15th November 2017
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Oh yes, another example of Scotland leading the world, according to Sturgeon........ scratchchin

TheJimi

24,983 posts

243 months

Wednesday 15th November 2017
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Won't make a blind bit of difference, imo.

Just means that those desperate enough for alcohol who are priced out by the changes will be either driven to more desperate measures to get their hands on it, or will revert to some other form of high.




TheJimi

24,983 posts

243 months

Wednesday 15th November 2017
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FourWheelDrift said:
But if that leads to less sales Buckfast Abbey might have to lay off some monks.
I'm not even sure Buckfast will be affected; it's already more expensive than some ordinary wines.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 15th November 2017
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FourWheelDrift said:
But if that leads to less sales Buckfast Abbey might have to lay off some monks.
FEWER sales, Goddammit! Standards, man, standards!

kiethton

13,895 posts

180 months

Wednesday 15th November 2017
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Surely when the levy reaches a point (it will be increased mercilessly I bet) anybody on the border or within x miles will just travel down to England, buy it and head back up north surely.

At least it keeps more tax/employment in England and may even result in a few booze cash and carry's on the border!

55palfers

5,909 posts

164 months

Wednesday 15th November 2017
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...they'll be runnin' moonshine over the border from Carlisle soon

moanthebairns

17,937 posts

198 months

Wednesday 15th November 2017
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Breadvan72 said:
I have a friend who lives in a poor area of Glasgow. The local culture is , in her words, soaked in booze, and that has consequences in terms of health, violence, other crime and so on. I am not generally in favour of top down social engineering, but there may be a case for it here.
What you mean like any area of high unemployment in the UK.

It will make fk all difference to levels of alcohol consumption. All it will stop is dependants spending money they would elsewhere on their own well being or families.

I cannot stand that Sturgeon, I am not a heavy drinker, I would struggle to drink a weeks allowance in a month. But I object to the government telling me I must now pay more due to them coming up with a plan they think will help a small few.

I assume the money will now be spent on the underprivileged kids in the area and give them funding for sports and after school activities every day of the week. Whilst increasing mental health facilities for dependants.

Jockman

17,917 posts

160 months

Wednesday 15th November 2017
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REALIST123 said:
Oh yes, another example of Scotland leading the world, according to Sturgeon........ scratchchin
Indeed.

I'm not sure that being FM of a nation that feels the need to cushion its people from alcohol is much to brag about.

Cold

15,246 posts

90 months

Wednesday 15th November 2017
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Where's the extra revenue going? Has it been ringfenced for some sort of rehab programme or does it just go into the pot?

TheJimi

24,983 posts

243 months

Wednesday 15th November 2017
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Breadvan72 said:
I have a friend who lives in a poor area of Glasgow. The local culture is , in her words, soaked in booze, and that has consequences in terms of health, violence, other crime and so on. I am not generally in favour of top down social engineering, but there may be a case for it here.
Glasgow and the surrounding area already has some of Europe’s most deprived communities, which incidentally also has serious crime, alcohol and drug addiction issues.

So you’ve already got people with nary a ha’penny to rub together, and there exists a drug and alcohol problem - do they *really* think implementing a minimum pricing strategy is going to do anything, realistically?

Scotland, and in particular, Glasgow, has a relationship with alcohol that transcends any kind of cost issue. Education is the key here, not half arsed knee jerk policies.


Boydie88

3,283 posts

149 months

Wednesday 15th November 2017
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Cold said:
Where's the extra revenue going? Has it been ringfenced for some sort of rehab programme or does it just go into the pot?
More money to seek to prosecute jokes on the internet.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/co...

drainbrain

5,637 posts

111 months

paulrockliffe

15,698 posts

227 months

Wednesday 15th November 2017
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As a minimum price, rather than a tax I guess it goes to the capitalist pig dogs that make the booze.

Ali G

3,526 posts

282 months

Wednesday 15th November 2017
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Righto, that'll work.

Meths with a lighter fuel chaser, perhaps a spot of Eau de posh for classy nights oot.

technodup

7,580 posts

130 months

Wednesday 15th November 2017
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REALIST123 said:
Oh yes, another example of Scotland leading the world, according to Sturgeon........ scratchchin
Thankfully she's not allowed to do anything significant.