The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 14]

[ferrisbueller]

type-r said:

Interesting comments from Mings:

https://www.thisisanfield.com/2018/08/simon-mignol...

Seems a bit odd. I thought when Ward went that the plan around the 'keeper position must have been sorted. You'd hope there'd be decent communication with the players involved. Can understand why Mings would want to be playing and would be uncomfortable with the situation.

[ferrisbueller]

Keane fractured his skull.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45314844

Hope he makes a full recovery speedily. Everton have had a good start to the season and whilst I don't want to see them above us I do like to see them do well.

[Black can man]

desolate said:

Black can man said:

No offence taken old boy,

You see getting all personal & childish name calling has never been my thing & you'll never find a post where i have sworn at, be rude or call a fellow poster a derogatory name. Some can do a bit of badinage & some cannot.
Feel free to carry on with the name calling i'm a big boy & i can take it & rest assured i will never hit the grass button.

I don't see calling someone "sub human scum" as badinage.

You obviously don’t tune into Radio Norwich FM do you .

That wasn’t a fellow poster though was it .

Anyway shall we man up & call it a day now eh ?

Edited by Black can man on Sunday 26th August 14:59

[jammy-git]

ferrisbueller said:

type-r said:

Interesting comments from Mings:

https://www.thisisanfield.com/2018/08/simon-mignol...

Seems a bit odd. I thought when Ward went that the plan around the 'keeper position must have been sorted. You'd hope there'd be decent communication with the players involved. Can understand why Mings would want to be playing and would be uncomfortable with the situation.

Personally I think I would have preferred to see Karius and Mings go out and for Ward to stay and be understudy to Alisson.

[NRS]

jammy-git said:

ferrisbueller said:

type-r said:

Interesting comments from Mings:

https://www.thisisanfield.com/2018/08/simon-mignol...

Seems a bit odd. I thought when Ward went that the plan around the 'keeper position must have been sorted. You'd hope there'd be decent communication with the players involved. Can understand why Mings would want to be playing and would be uncomfortable with the situation.

Personally I think I would have preferred to see Karius and Mings go out and for Ward to stay and be understudy to Alisson.

Me too. It seems like Mig was not allowed to be loaned earlier this summer as he was already decided to be No. 2 keeper. However the risk is that he doesn't want to be. Sounds like in a window or two we will need a new deputy keeper to replace Simon, unless the youth ones get promoted.

[Black can man]

jammy-git said:

Personally I think I would have preferred to see Karius and Mings go out and for Ward to stay and be understudy to Alisson.

I can't believe Liverpool have let him go on loan to Turkey.


You lot are an orible lot but those Turks are just nasty.

Only joking about being horrible

[ferrisbueller]

jammy-git said:

ferrisbueller said:

type-r said:

Interesting comments from Mings:

https://www.thisisanfield.com/2018/08/simon-mignol...

Seems a bit odd. I thought when Ward went that the plan around the 'keeper position must have been sorted. You'd hope there'd be decent communication with the players involved. Can understand why Mings would want to be playing and would be uncomfortable with the situation.

Personally I think I would have preferred to see Karius and Mings go out and for Ward to stay and be understudy to Alisson.

That's what seemed likely to happen at one point. Someone will have been talking to them all - hope so anyway. So a scenario where you sell the one most likely to be happy as #2, loan one out and leave yourself with the one who doesn't want to be there and is still pissed off you dropped him down behind Karius shouldn't happen.

Of course, all this is based on a few comments he may or may not have made to an overseas paper, possibly in a different language, and with no context.

[type-r]

I guess it came down to a financial decision why Mings was not allowed to leave on loan earlier in the summer. Liverpool could command a fee for Mings but peanuts for Karius. A permanent move to Napoli for Mings collapsed and they loaned Ospina instead. One can only assume Liverpool were commanding a high fee that Napoli baulked at. All conjecture off course but basing it off media reports. Now Mings still wants to leave, understandably, to play 1st team football. First he gets replaced by Karius, then his loan move gets denied, then Karius goes off on loan. He must be feeling pretty sick tbf.

[gadgetmac]

pinchmeimdreamin said:

3 tricky away games in the next month, What would be a good points haul ?

Obviously 12 would be ideal but would 7 or 8 be good enough ?

Yeah, you’re going to need creative thinking like 8 or 12 points from 3 games if you’re going to win the league this season

[Flip Martian]

type-r said:

Interesting comments from Mings:

https://www.thisisanfield.com/2018/08/simon-mignol...

That really is interesting. Does a player really have so little control over his own future? Does no-one really want to sign Mings and only loan deals were available? And those loans refused against his wishes? I assumed he was happy to stay, if Karius was being let go, but clearly players are the last people consulted... Surely Klopp doesn't just expect him to stay if Karius leaves?

[m3sye]

He will get over it
If He was more consistent he wouldn't be in this problem
Type R was right, we wanted to sell no offers came in, Why should we just loan him and jeopardise the team he signed a contract with...
I imagine if we could get good enough cover we would let him go on loan but only if it suits the club..he will play facup and caraboa I imagine...

[Flip Martian]

m3sye said:

He will get over it
If He was more consistent he wouldn't be in this problem
Type R was right, we wanted to sell no offers came in, Why should we just loan him and jeopardise the team he signed a contract with...
I imagine if we could get good enough cover we would let him go on loan but only if it suits the club..he will play facup and caraboa I imagine...

There is that...

Mind you, I was a fan of Ward being the number 2 too. Hey ho.

[m3sye]

Flip Martian said:

There is that...

Mind you, I was a fan of Ward being the number 2 too. Hey ho.

13m for a number 3 as of last year, is too good for any club to turn down..especially when Alison was 54m rising to 63m

[General Price]

m3sye said:

Flip Martian said:

There is that...

Mind you, I was a fan of Ward being the number 2 too. Hey ho.

13m for a number 3 as of last year, is too good for any club to turn down..especially when Alison was 54m rising to 63m

I think you will find Alisson was £68 million,I've seen it in the papers so it must be true.

[ferrisbueller]

Just seen Seri's goal. Tidy.

[Adam B]

We’ve just hird a throw in coach.

www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/08/26/jurgen-klo...

Apparently that’s a thing now

[Flip Martian]

No danger of Karius’ move not being made permanent I think...his statements today mention hoping to help Besiktas to as many titles as possible and being proud to be part of their family now.

Unless no-one told his PR people it was a loan...

[RobDickinson]

Tbh I think you need to publicly appear dedicated to the new cause whenever you move in football

[Pommy]

Adam B said:

We’ve just hird a throw in coach.

www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/08/26/jurgen-klo...

Apparently that’s a thing now

I read that somewhere else also. Makes a lot of sense when you think about it hey given its a possession point. Its intruiging.

[NRS]

Flip Martian said:

That really is interesting. Does a player really have so little control over his own future? Does no-one really want to sign Mings and only loan deals were available? And those loans refused against his wishes? I assumed he was happy to stay, if Karius was being let go, but clearly players are the last people consulted... Surely Klopp doesn't just expect him to stay if Karius leaves?

If a player has a contract they are stuck if a club doesn't want to sell. Then it goes down to the player - will they go on strike/make so much noise etc to force a move? I suspect Simon is not that sort of player, but it does seem he will make more noises after being somewhat screwed over. Demoted to number 2, then number 1 does such a bad job Karius is still replaced but appears to be the safe back up option so is not allowed to be sold as we already had got rid of the other 2 who might be back up.