RE: BMW M3 CRT: Spotted

RE: BMW M3 CRT: Spotted

Wednesday 25th April 2018

BMW M3 CRT: Spotted

Always fancied one of the very special, very rare M3s? This dealer has two!



Think you know your M3s? A car like the CRT (Carbon Racing Technology) is always a good test for true aficionados. Rather like the E36 M3 Lightweight and the E46 GTR, it's one of those M3s that's both incredibly rare as well as quite a lot more serious than the standard version. Which makes it really rather cool.

If you haven't heard of the CRT, here's a brief rundown: using carbon parts - clue's in the name - shed 50kg from the weight of an E90 M3 saloon, while using a powertrain from the GTS meant 450hp at 8,300rpm and a 180mph top speed. Just 67 were made (65 customer cars; two for press use) and they cost 130,000 euros, with none for the UK.


A very special M car then, but made the more interesting because of its unique status in the M3 range. A logical link could be made back from the contemporary GTS to the E46 CSL, and of course that name continues to this day. But for the CRT there wasn't a similarly hardcore four-door to emulate, and it doesn't seem like BMW will embrace the idea once more - nice though an M3 CS certainly will be, it's not quite as focused as a CRT.

Moreover, nothing from M Division is ever again going to have an engine quite like that 4.0-litre V8. In this configuration it's making more than 100hp per litre, revs to way beyond 8,000rpm, and sounds utterly magnificent - see here for some proof of that.

So you want one - who wouldn't? The running gear from the fastest M3 of its generation dropped into the more subtle, more unassuming saloon body. Unsurprisingly you'll be expected to pay for the privilege, even without the UK ever officially receiving the CRT. Incredibly this dealer has a pair of cars available, one with 2,000 miles and the other with 3,000, both very close to £130,000. When you could buy a regular E90 M3 saloon with just 30hp less for £100,000 less, that might look a lot to some observers.


However, there's always another way to look at things. For the M3 CRT, there are quite a few different ways. Firstly it's for sale at the same money as the E92 M3 GTS is offered at currently, and the M4 GTS for that matter. In addition, you can still pay more than £100,000 for a considerably more common C63 AMG Black Series. Finally, being such a rare M3 and such a significant one as the very last naturally aspirated special edition, it's difficult to imagine the CRT ever plummeting in value.

Sure, it's left-hand drive. But so are all E30 M3s, Delta Integrales and F40s. Throw in a CRT and you're not going to turn that down as a four-car garage now, are you?


SPECIFICATION - BMW M3 CRT

Engine: 4,360cc, V8
Transmission: 7-speed dual-clutch auto, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 450@8,300rpm
Torque (lb ft): 324@3,750rpm
MPG: 22.2
CO2: 295g/km
First registered: 2012
Recorded mileage: 2,359
Price new: 130,000 euros
Yours for: £129,995

See the original advert here.

 

 

 

 

 

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downhillmalins

Original Poster:

149 posts

146 months

Wednesday 25th April 2018
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undoubtedly a cool car but that is serious cash!

in the realms of all sorts of other amazing metal at that price tag.

ManOpener

12,467 posts

169 months

Wednesday 25th April 2018
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This was always my favourite E9x generation special: 4 door saloon so much better proportioned than the coupé, with the running gear from the GTS but none of the GTS' garish addons.

Diesel Meister

2,044 posts

201 months

Wednesday 25th April 2018
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Personally, I think these are epic. The 4.4 V8 is about perfect and the other changes make this nigh on impossible to improve aside from attainability (and a Spanish option, although the DCT probably works better overall with the engine characteristics. And the need to hold on on quite firmly.).

Oz83

688 posts

139 months

Wednesday 25th April 2018
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There's a reason he has 2.

MikeGoodwin

3,339 posts

117 months

Wednesday 25th April 2018
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Oz83 said:
There's a reason he has 2.
Is it because he cant shift them?


GTEYE

2,096 posts

210 months

Wednesday 25th April 2018
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MikeGoodwin said:
Oz83 said:
There's a reason he has 2.
Is it because he cant shift them?
And they never knowingly under-price their stock...

culpz

4,882 posts

112 months

Wednesday 25th April 2018
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Didn't even know these existed!

rampageturke

2,622 posts

162 months

Wednesday 25th April 2018
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130k for a -50kg m3 roflroflroflrofl

some of these dealers are nuts, these won't shift and in 3 months they'll be listed at 140k

WCZ

10,525 posts

194 months

Wednesday 25th April 2018
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terrible value for money , would prefer an m3 gts (also terrible value for money)
an e46 csl even at £60k is better (-100kg etc)

tjlazer

875 posts

174 months

Wednesday 25th April 2018
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The weight savings were a joke, I appreciate the carbon parts were specifically for this car but that wasn't a sensible purchase new and it still isn't now - agreed that a CSL is a way better investment

s m

23,223 posts

203 months

Wednesday 25th April 2018
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WCZ said:
terrible value for money , would prefer an m3 gts (also terrible value for money)
an e46 csl even at £60k is better (-100kg etc)
......and you just know in the big M3 test the journos would pick an even older E30 M3 over all of them!

PistonBroker

2,419 posts

226 months

Wednesday 25th April 2018
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I'd never heard of these until very recently - a chap on Twitter with a rather tasty car collection, who's no doubt on here too, bought one.

I like the sound of it . . . but, blimey, that's serious cash now. I appreciate it wouldn't have the provenance, but I often wonder how well you could do if you started with a bog-stock one and threw some choice mods at it.

cmn243

11 posts

99 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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One is sold now...

Bladedancer

1,269 posts

196 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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Price speculation on a car so young? Ballsy move.

BarcelonaLewis

150 posts

136 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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Apart from the small matter of being too poor, what would put me off buying one of these is the mileage; I'd never be able to use it!

AmosMoses

4,042 posts

165 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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This is not a £130k driving experience, that's knocking on used 458 money!

Get yourself the best possible E90 M3 for say £35k then spend a lofty £20k on mods. That's an outrageous £55k!

But you save £75k!

PorkInsider

5,888 posts

141 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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BarcelonaLewis said:
Apart from the small matter of being too poor, what would put me off buying one of these is the mileage; I'd never be able to use it!
Exactly.

A good part of that £130k will be based on the low mileage so all the talk of how great the engine is, and how well sorted the car is, is pointless because buying it to drive it would be financially suicidal.

If there was one at, say, £75k with 45,000 on the clock, you could at least use it on sunny days for a few years without totally decimating its value.

sr.guiri

478 posts

89 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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I'm sure it's a hoot, but so is a Radical SR3 and a regular M3 for trips to the shops.

BUT, it has four doors!!! WTF confused

And I don't think I could admit to driving a car that features the name "Carbon Racing Technology". That's just a bit embarrassing biggrin

scottos

1,146 posts

124 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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Saw one of these at the ring last year. So subtle parked up and no one batted an eye lid at it, assuming they didnt know what it even was, felt lucky to see it and have a look around it.

GregorFuk

563 posts

200 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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PistonBroker said:
I'd never heard of these until very recently - a chap on Twitter with a rather tasty car collection, who's no doubt on here too, bought one.

I like the sound of it . . . but, blimey, that's serious cash now. I appreciate it wouldn't have the provenance, but I often wonder how well you could do if you started with a bog-stock one and threw some choice mods at it.
Not just bought one, as I read he chopped his CSL in for one.