The Official England Thread- The Team We All Support [Vol 3]
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SWoll said:
Cobnapint said:
One thing 'is' for certain, the Spanish are sure to provide us with a world class display of acting. They'll rolling around on the floor clutching their shins from the merest glance of a passing England player's sock fibre.
I just hope the ref isn't easily duped.
And we'll have numerous players who will almost certainly do the same. Modern football for you.I just hope the ref isn't easily duped.
Most footballers have become experts in it.
Challo said:
SWoll said:
Cobnapint said:
One thing 'is' for certain, the Spanish are sure to provide us with a world class display of acting. They'll rolling around on the floor clutching their shins from the merest glance of a passing England player's sock fibre.
I just hope the ref isn't easily duped.
And we'll have numerous players who will almost certainly do the same. Modern football for you.I just hope the ref isn't easily duped.
Most footballers have become experts in it.
SWoll said:
Cobnapint said:
One thing 'is' for certain, the Spanish are sure to provide us with a world class display of acting. They'll rolling around on the floor clutching their shins from the merest glance of a passing England player's sock fibre.
I just hope the ref isn't easily duped.
And we'll have numerous players who will almost certainly do the same. Modern football for you.I just hope the ref isn't easily duped.
Not Euro related but watched the 1966 cup final yesterday on channel 4 ( in colour) . One thing that struck me was how many chances England had to kill the game in normal time and in extra time when winning. Was ‘ game management’ ( time wasting ) not invented in those days ! Before Germany equalised in the last kick in normal time, we had several opportunities to run the ball into the corner but still chose not to. Really enjoyed the game without all the stop / start stuff that happens in the modern game. Player gets kicked up in the air- just gets up and away we go again. Thank god for no Var ( or goal line technology!!!)
Mannginger said:
See: Kane's penalty against Netherlands, or Bellingham whenever he gets tackled or makes a mistake in a challenge. I hate it but it has truly become a tactic for players
I believe Kane was genuinely hurt in that contact. That doesn't mean I think it was a penalty though.Our guys dive like the rest but they aren't as blatant as the Spanish, Brazilians or Argentinians seem to be.
I sometimes wonder what professional rugby players think when they see these lightweights rolling around on the floor after such minimal contact.
monty999 said:
Not Euro related but watched the 1966 cup final yesterday on channel 4 ( in colour) . One thing that struck me was how many chances England had to kill the game in normal time and in extra time when winning. Was ‘ game management’ ( time wasting ) not invented in those days ! Before Germany equalised in the last kick in normal time, we had several opportunities to run the ball into the corner but still chose not to. Really enjoyed the game without all the stop / start stuff that happens in the modern game. Player gets kicked up in the air- just gets up and away we go again. Thank god for no Var ( or goal line technology!!!)
Yes, I watched that and thought the same, Alan Ball got hacked down and simply jumped up and took the free kick, so refreshing. Mind you, I also noticed how often we gave the ball away with hopeful passes or simply kicking into a space and there being no one there to receive it. Geoff Hurst's 4th goal was still a cracker, modern footballer would have dribbled to the corner flag! Acorn1 said:
mickk said:
romft123 said:
mickk said:
Do we know where the ref is from?
Have you checked the main website For the game? Letexier the 35-year-old Frenchman will become the youngest referee of a EURO final when Spain take on England in Berlin on Sunday.
ked then 
RichB said:
Yes, I watched that and thought the same, Alan Ball got hacked down and simply jumped up and took the free kick, so refreshing. Mind you, I also noticed how often we gave the ball away with hopeful passes or simply kicking into a space and there being no one there to receive it. Geoff Hurst's 4th goal was still a cracker, modern footballer would have dribbled to the corner flag!
Yes, I was also struck by how poor and slow the attacking play was. I kind of get the feeling a modern team with a modern football etc would beat that 1966 team about 10-0 
RichB said:
monty999 said:
Not Euro related but watched the 1966 cup final yesterday on channel 4 ( in colour) . One thing that struck me was how many chances England had to kill the game in normal time and in extra time when winning. Was ‘ game management’ ( time wasting ) not invented in those days ! Before Germany equalised in the last kick in normal time, we had several opportunities to run the ball into the corner but still chose not to. Really enjoyed the game without all the stop / start stuff that happens in the modern game. Player gets kicked up in the air- just gets up and away we go again. Thank god for no Var ( or goal line technology!!!)
Yes, I watched that and thought the same, Alan Ball got hacked down and simply jumped up and took the free kick, so refreshing. Mind you, I also noticed how often we gave the ball away with hopeful passes or simply kicking into a space and there being no one there to receive it. Geoff Hurst's 4th goal was still a cracker, modern footballer would have dribbled to the corner flag! 
but had forgotten (a) how good the Germans were and (b) how good Roger Hunt was. monty999 said:
Not Euro related but watched the 1966 cup final yesterday on channel 4 ( in colour) . One thing that struck me was how many chances England had to kill the game in normal time and in extra time when winning. Was ‘ game management’ ( time wasting ) not invented in those days ! Before Germany equalised in the last kick in normal time, we had several opportunities to run the ball into the corner but still chose not to. Really enjoyed the game without all the stop / start stuff that happens in the modern game. Player gets kicked up in the air- just gets up and away we go again. Thank god for no Var ( or goal line technology!!!)
No diving,no faking injury,no claiming for decisions that were obviously not yours....apart from that goal obviously 
.....no timewasting, hardly any sideways backwards passing to keep possession, always looking to pass forward,it was like a completely different sport.The only similarity was the ref was as crap as they are today
Bluevanman said:
No diving,no faking injury,no claiming for decisions that were obviously not yours....apart from that goal obviously .....no timewasting, hardly any sideways backwards passing to keep possession, always looking to pass forward,it was like a completely different sport.
The only similarity was the ref was as crap as they are today
Other matches were different. Argentina for example had a big reputation for dirty play and feigning injury back then......no timewasting, hardly any sideways backwards passing to keep possession, always looking to pass forward,it was like a completely different sport.The only similarity was the ref was as crap as they are today
AKjr said:
Mannginger said:
See: Kane's penalty against Netherlands, or Bellingham whenever he gets tackled or makes a mistake in a challenge. I hate it but it has truly become a tactic for players
Nailed on as a penalty, that. I don't know what you're talking about!Flip Martian said:
Bluevanman said:
No diving,no faking injury,no claiming for decisions that were obviously not yours....apart from that goal obviously .....no timewasting, hardly any sideways backwards passing to keep possession, always looking to pass forward,it was like a completely different sport.
The only similarity was the ref was as crap as they are today
Other matches were different. Argentina for example had a big reputation for dirty play and feigning injury back then......no timewasting, hardly any sideways backwards passing to keep possession, always looking to pass forward,it was like a completely different sport.The only similarity was the ref was as crap as they are today
Unashamedly nicked from elsewhere:-
58 years since England won the World Cup.
38 years since the 'Hand of God'.
34 years since Waddle over the bar.
28 years since Southgate's miss.
24 years since Romania's penalty.
22 years since Ronaldinho's free-kick.
18 years since Ronaldo's wink.
16 years since failing to qualify.
14 years since Lampard's 'ghost goal'.
12 years since Pirlo's Panenka.
10 years since disaster in Brazil.
8 years since Iceland.
6 years since heartbreak against Croatia.
3 years since defeat in the final.
58 years since England won the World Cup.
38 years since the 'Hand of God'.
34 years since Waddle over the bar.
28 years since Southgate's miss.
24 years since Romania's penalty.
22 years since Ronaldinho's free-kick.
18 years since Ronaldo's wink.
16 years since failing to qualify.
14 years since Lampard's 'ghost goal'.
12 years since Pirlo's Panenka.
10 years since disaster in Brazil.
8 years since Iceland.
6 years since heartbreak against Croatia.
3 years since defeat in the final.
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