Ian Wright says criticism of Raheem Sterling is racist
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Alpinestars said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Alpinestars said:
There seems be lots of defensive Chelsea fans on here. Would be good if you just condemned the behaviour of some of your fans. You’re in the news again today.
Have done. We have some moronic fans, and have said so. On the Chelsea thread, put forward a way of catching and dealing with them. Are you going to condemn some of yours, or don't you have any racist fans.
Read back through the threads in question and you’ll see we’ve condemned it. You’ll also see I’ve already schooled you on your own racist fans. There are three examples. I can find more but then I’d be like you with that bone you won’t let go.
Are you going to carry on going around in an endless , pointless , circle or are you able to drop this monotony and move on ?
jcremonini said:
Are you purposely being stupid or is it an illness ?
Read back through the threads in question and you’ll see we’ve condemned it. You’ll also see I’ve already schooled you on your own racist fans. There are three examples. I can find more but then I’d be like you with that bone you won’t let go.
Are you going to carry on going around in an endless , pointless , circle or are you able to drop this monotony and move on ?
Shut up you child. Read back through the threads in question and you’ll see we’ve condemned it. You’ll also see I’ve already schooled you on your own racist fans. There are three examples. I can find more but then I’d be like you with that bone you won’t let go.
Are you going to carry on going around in an endless , pointless , circle or are you able to drop this monotony and move on ?
Adam B said:
Pothole said:
What do you mean by "racial incitement?"
This (nicked from Wikipedia):Under the law of the United Kingdom, "incitement to racial hatred" was established as an offence by the provisions of §§ 17-29 of the Public Order Act 1986. It was first established as a criminal offence in the Race Relations Act 1976. The Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994 made publication of material that incited racial hatred an arrestable offence.
This offence refers to:
deliberately provoking hatred of a racial group
distributing racist material to the public
making inflammatory public speeches
creating racist websites on the Internet
inciting inflammatory rumours about an individual or an ethnic group, for the purpose of spreading racial discontent.
Laws against incitement to hatred against religions were later established under the Racial and Religious Hatred Act 2006. However this legislation is not present in Scotland.
To that end, the Chelsea fans who were chanting their pride at being racists were not actually committing a crime. Although I would argue that it’s bordering on incitement , or even is incitement.
Edited by jcremonini on Friday 14th December 22:35
not sure of the technicalities (I even got the terminology wrong) but I guess any public shouting/chanting/insults could be construed as incitement as it may encourage others
I imagine banning those morons from their club for life and the public shame / losing a job would be punishment enough to make other think twice
In all the games I have attended i have never felt the need to shout or gesticulate to players or rival fans and have only sung songs about my club, you shout and swear in frustration or jubilation of course
I imagine banning those morons from their club for life and the public shame / losing a job would be punishment enough to make other think twice
In all the games I have attended i have never felt the need to shout or gesticulate to players or rival fans and have only sung songs about my club, you shout and swear in frustration or jubilation of course
You're probably one of 'those' on social media saying "typical Chelsea fans, they're all scum". Which I've seen all week on Twitter.
Now imagine if you said something similar about followers of a certain religion, or people with a certain skin colour just because of a minority of idiots.
Now imagine if you said something similar about followers of a certain religion, or people with a certain skin colour just because of a minority of idiots.
Melchett1905 said:
You're probably one of 'those' on social media saying "typical Chelsea fans, they're all scum". Which I've seen all week on Twitter.
Now imagine if you said something similar about followers of a certain religion, or people with a certain skin colour just because of a minority of idiots.
Bingo. Took you all of a week to get to where you left off. Now imagine if you said something similar about followers of a certain religion, or people with a certain skin colour just because of a minority of idiots.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
He sounds like a right charmer! Looking more likely it was racist abuse. Surely a professional lip reader could have answered it for certain by now?
I suspect it might be heading for court, so maybe not sensible for a professional to comment on it?A link to the other comments he was alleged to have made.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/rahee...
Anyone else see Fellani being verbally abused by a Liverpool fan as he retrieved the ball for a throw in? I don't know Fellani's racial background, Middle Eastern or North African maybe? Don't know if the abuse was racist or not. Just wonder if it'll get picked up, or maybe it's just going to be overlooked; those cheeky scousers with their sense of humour?
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Anyone else see Fellani being verbally abused by a Liverpool fan as he retrieved the ball for a throw in? I don't know Fellani's racial background, Middle Eastern or North African maybe? Don't know if the abuse was racist or not. Just wonder if it'll get picked up, or maybe it's just going to be overlooked; those cheeky scousers with their sense of humour?
He's one of our own - look
Or do you reckon he was getting called an arab
?TwigtheWonderkid said:
Anyone else see Fellani being verbally abused by a Liverpool fan as he retrieved the ball for a throw in? I don't know Fellani's racial background, Middle Eastern or North African maybe? Don't know if the abuse was racist or not. Just wonder if it'll get picked up, or maybe it's just going to be overlooked; those cheeky scousers with their sense of humour?
Was he being called a black ? Or similar?Alpinestars said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Anyone else see Fellani being verbally abused by a Liverpool fan as he retrieved the ball for a throw in? I don't know Fellani's racial background, Middle Eastern or North African maybe? Don't know if the abuse was racist or not. Just wonder if it'll get picked up, or maybe it's just going to be overlooked; those cheeky scousers with their sense of humour?
Was he being called a black ? Or similar?TwigtheWonderkid said:
No idea. The clue is in the words "Don't know if the abuse was racist or not". But is it going to be highlighted and looked into?
If someone highlights or spots some racism, yes. Are you suggesting it was? Or that it should be looked into for other reasons?It smacks of desperation.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Anyone else see Fellani being verbally abused by a Liverpool fan as he retrieved the ball for a throw in? I don't know Fellani's racial background, Middle Eastern or North African maybe? Don't know if the abuse was racist or not. Just wonder if it'll get picked up, or maybe it's just going to be overlooked; those cheeky scousers with their sense of humour?
I thought that all the professionals last week said any form of over the top goading of players is wrong. No mention of it from yesterdays Liverpool/United game. Guess it's just 'passion'. Alpinestars said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
No idea. The clue is in the words "Don't know if the abuse was racist or not". But is it going to be highlighted and looked into?
If someone highlights or spots some racism, yes. Are you suggesting it was? Or that it should be looked into for other reasons?It smacks of desperation.
Abuse was directed at Fellani from a yard away by a fan. Are we now saying it's OK? How will we know if it's racist or not unless someone looks into the matter?
TwigtheWonderkid said:
I thought the message was that hurling abuse in the face of a player wasn't acceptable. The 4 Chelsea guys were suspended whilst possible racism was investigated. Not sure if it now has been established. I haven't heard either way.
Abuse was directed at Fellani from a yard away by a fan. Are we now saying it's OK? How will we know if it's racist or not unless someone looks into the matter?
It's all just so unfair. Abuse was directed at Fellani from a yard away by a fan. Are we now saying it's OK? How will we know if it's racist or not unless someone looks into the matter?
desolate said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
I thought the message was that hurling abuse in the face of a player wasn't acceptable. The 4 Chelsea guys were suspended whilst possible racism was investigated. Not sure if it now has been established. I haven't heard either way.
Abuse was directed at Fellani from a yard away by a fan. Are we now saying it's OK? How will we know if it's racist or not unless someone looks into the matter?
It's all just so unfair. Abuse was directed at Fellani from a yard away by a fan. Are we now saying it's OK? How will we know if it's racist or not unless someone looks into the matter?
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